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Question for fellow gun nuts here about a 1911
posted 132 days ago by TNBanjoMan 132 days ago by TNBanjoMan +13 / -0

A friend has a .45 1911 that was custom made into a competition race gun. The bushing is not standard, but is a screw-in type, so it doesn't disassemble like the Govt. Model does.

How easy, or hard, is it to convert it back to its original configuration so its easier to disassemble and reassemble?

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– 2024TruthSeeker 4 points 132 days ago +4 / -0

Take it to a gunsmith so you don't F things up.

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– cathole953 3 points 131 days ago +3 / -0

I've never heard of a screw in bushing. Only bushing I've ever seen or heard of are either the standard GI style bushings where you have to push and twist, or the captive one piece bull barrel bushings that you can just compress until they click into their compressed state and then push them a little to decompress them to but them back in the gun.

Then again I don't mess with race guns too awful much, so could be a competition specific thing.

Either way, my two cents would be to just leave it alone. Often race guns are so custom spec, that you'd spend more trying to convert it to a duty gun than it'd cost to just by a new gun. They're also made to MUCH tighter tolerances, which isn't actually a good thing for a duty gun. Contrary to what some may say, you WANT a little slop in your daily carry/duty gun because that little bit of play gives you variance in working conditions. if things are so tight that the slightest thing can put things off internally (like bumping it in your holster against a chair for example), then its not ideal for anything other than the range or competitions.

Either way, its not like standard 1911s are expensive. You can pick up a good ruger 1911 for like 600 plus tax so long as you're not trying to get the top of the line stuff.

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– TNBanjoMan [S] 2 points 131 days ago +2 / -0

I hear what you're saying about a certain degree of "slop"... it's a feature, not a bug, of most 1911's I've had over the years.

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– cathole953 3 points 131 days ago +3 / -0

Pretty much, slightly different geometry, but its the same reason people who mess with their glocks too much actually end up making them LESS reliable than a factory OEM glock. Sure it'll TECHNICALLY be smoother and run better in controlled environments, but the tighter the tolerances you force on a gun, the less reliable it is outside of controlled environments. That's the reason glocks, AKs, etc. Have such absurd reliability. Because they've optimized the "slop" about as much as you can to get maximum reliability. 1911s and 2011s are more finnicky. They ALSO have some, but generally a tighter OEM. So when you get into competition and race gun tier 1911s and 2011s you're often dealing with nanometers of clearance levels tolerance, which is why they have to be oiled and lubed so often.

Hence, why your friend is better off just buying a new 1911 if he's wanting one for anything other than a range toy/competition gun

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– TNBanjoMan [S] 2 points 131 days ago +2 / -0

I will pass that along.

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– TNBanjoMan [S] 3 points 132 days ago +3 / -0

...is it simply a matter of replacing the bushing at the muzzle?

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– Plebbitimmigrant 4 points 132 days ago +4 / -0

Sounds about right. Most 1911 models are fairly standard. Even ones that have been tweaked. Should simply be a question of just replacing the relevant parts.

The only way that would not be the case is if someone took a Grinder or Dremel to the Frame and or slide. As that can affect how parts fit and tolerances. Depending on how much they took off of either. Every once in a while you get a company that makes a proprietary tweak to whatever model they’re pedaling. Though that’s not all that common a practice on some of the widely produced things like 1911s. As that’s a good way to piss off your prospective market l.

From your question and the sounds of it though. It sounds more like someone just played around mix and match with the parts. Which is generally more typical.

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– TBone_92A1 3 points 132 days ago +3 / -0

My thoughts exactly

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– Pbman2 2 points 132 days ago +2 / -0

Whatever part it screws into would need to be replaced. The slide i assume.

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– TNBanjoMan [S] 1 point 132 days ago +1 / -0

No, it's screwed to the recoil guide rod.

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