Not a bad thing. I want to make sure everyone in this thread understands I mean absolutly no division. Sometimes this subject can cause people to get argumentitive and I do not wish that in any way whatsoever. The Gosple of Grace is the only thing I will argue to my death. Thats what matters most. Jesus was the Creator God in human flesh whos blood was shed as the final sacrifice for all who would believe and 3 days after his body was layed to rest in the tomb, he was seen by hundreds of people walking and talking just like you and I. He was raised from the Dead. Now as far as eschotology goes, I can prove in scripture how the Calling up (rapture) happens after tribulation just befor God pours out his wrath upon the earth. That ONE day where the dead in Christ are risen, The Day of the Lord takes place, The Day Christ returns and Gathers his Elect (The Church {Spiritual Israel} not the Jews) To meet him in the Clouds (not the clouds in the sky but the cloud of dust as an army rushing across the sandy desert to battle) to destroy the enemy and pour out the wrath of God upon all that Rejected him. There is timeline that is repeted multiple times in scripture that tells us exatly the season. No man will know the day or the hour, not even Christ himself, but the Father in Heaven, But he did promise us that we would know the season that we would be prepared as it approaches and that specific events must take place before that day comes. Christ himself gave the timeline. And that timeline was prophesied thousands of years before Christ walked on earth in the Flesh. You can believe however you want, but I dont want people to get caught unawares because they believe they will escape tribulation therefore not being preparted to edure that tribulation until the end.