Latest SHROUD Video Featuring ASTOUNDING Photos! - Gary Habermas
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Scripture is clear regarding appropriate hair length. The alleged image violates Christs teaching. How can this be?🤔 Christ doesn’t engage in contradictions.
What verse is that the regulates hair length for carpenters?
Shroud research is fascinating.
questions: if Isaiah 52:14 is about the “Suffering Servant” whose “appearance was so marred, beyond human semblance, and his form beyond that of the children of mankind”
a) then does the image of the person on the Shroud fit this Isaiah description?
b) could an act of God making the image on the Shroud have included a restoration moment to have tidied up the image a bit?
I believe the marring was primarily wounds, blood and gore causing the disfigurement, as Isaiah also says not a bone will be broken, etc.
As bad as this was, it seems quite likely that Joseph of Arimathea and Nicodemus, in preparing His body for burial, would have done what they could, in terms of ‘tidying up’ - minimally I would imagine wiping his face and whatever blood they could, on the rest of him, before wrapping him in a clean linen, as mentioned in the gospel accounts.
The shroud research just keeps turning up new discoveries. One of the more recent things is the recording of motion, as if the body were preparing to arise.
thanks, appreciate this in remembering what He went through, and studying the Shroud with Isaiah in mind
IMO, the problem I have with this story is the claim this event was "Jesus dying for our Sins!" Yet, in the story, Jesus rose from the dead three days later. Further, the claim states clearly Jesus "Sacrificed his life" for us.
Where is the sacrifice? Jesus, as described in the story, proved he cannot die. He returned. Jesus proved he can come and go in and out of our reality as he pleases. A sacrifice, by definition, is giving up something you can no longer have. In this case, death wasn't permanent. He came back... and we are then told he will return again. That is not a sacrifice. It is a small feat for Jesus. He proved death is not something he is bound by or bound to. He can go and come as he pleases.
To me, then, the story makes no sense. He sacrificed his life for our sins? No he didn't. He didn't die. He came back. Jesus lived. That is not a sacrifice.
I don't post this to anger any die-hard believers. I am just pointing out that our interpretation of the story ignores the obvious facts of the story to support a narrative and the narrative itself screams the very claim can't be true.
You are not wrong about His ability but don't seem to consider the whole narrative. Jesus absolutely could come and go, but it can be demonstrated that he limited Himself to the abilities of humanity to the point of being murdered and that it was His Father who brought Him back to life. It's faith in some kind of narrative for all of us. I'm real comfy with what I find in Jesus's in the Bible.
I don't disagree with you. I am just asking, what exactly did Jesus sacrifice in the story? Any suggestions?
I don't share your point that sacrifice implies a finality of what is sacrificed. Like money, for example, can be sacrificed and regained. Surely some things are irreplaceable but not all things.
His sacrifice was His life. It is to be accepted that He gave Himself, being one who did everything right and nothing wrong, in the place of those who didn't and did, to take the consequence of the offences on behalf of the offenders. He did this by volunteerily limiting Himself to the abilities of a common man. If He would not of restrained Himself as so, yeah, I'd agree with you, it would have been no big deal. But as the story goes, He did die a human's death and was risen as a human. Whether you or I believe it doesn't change that He sacrificed His human life. If you're interested maybe read Philippians chapter 2 or The Gospel of John.
"For the life of the flesh is in the blood; and I have given it to you to make expiation for your souls on the altar, for it is the blood, by reason of the life, that makes expiation (Lev. 17:11)."
Jesus returned with flesh and bone (Lk. 24:39), but no blood. That was poured out. His "life" was poured out to make expiation.