I stole this meme from another .win channel, yet i thought it very appropriate. Judges need to be held accountable for their actions, too.
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Since I was tagged, I'll hop back in in a bit of a tangential way
The issue this post is trying to get at is really judges being accountable perhaps for incorrect rulings
If someone commits a crime and is proven guilty, the judge should be able to be impartial and simply mete out a sentence that fits the crime and the offense prescribed by law (?)
So when we have rogue judges that don't do this, rather than them perhaps being liable for the crime the criminal commits (which is kind of unfair as it is out of their control), they should still be able to be held to account for objectively wrong rulings where the sentence does not correspond tp the crime
I don't 100% know how things work but I presume our legal system gives judges the ability to let criminals off without punishment even when they are clearly guilty. That was probably intended for "Christian judges in a Christian nation" who could be merciful towards criminals who showed signs of being truly sorry. It is obviously functioning as an exploited gap in our system that is being abused to let off unrepentant criminals who reoffend without any remorse.
If that's the case, then rather than the proposal in the OP that makes the judge liable for crimes of a criminal let off (unfair tp the judge), the judge should probably not be able to let a criminal off but must impartially sentence them to whatever penalty is prescribed by law. So it sounds like we may need a law that requires judges to do this. Then judges would be subject to this law as an incentive to punish criminals.
I suppose in this scenario jury nullification could function as the merciful out for truly repentant criminals, but it might also function as an exploitable option.
Alternatively we may just need more people to be street saavy and watch their back for some of this violent crime, and we clearly need to replace the judges with good men (any efforts under way to do so?)
Not sure if that helps the convo
Yeah, very good observations. I think the founders actually figured this out already which is why we have a right to a jury trial and an appeal system. If judges generally can't be trusted then the system will not work though. Who holds the judges accountable if not other judges?....This is the main reason why Q said that the military is the only way. We are very lucky that the military as a whole and the commander in chief are trustworthy now. This gets to the root of why the Q plan had to be executed in the way that it has been/is being executed.
I agree. Very good observations by u/bluewhiteandred
I think it does. I think all three of us are in strong agreement. I certainly agree with what you have written (and at the risk of prodding the Panda when he's already annoyed at me, I'll say it does not include any new analogy, but is a good rebuttal of the OPs analogy).
The problem in the convo was that between Panda and I, there was some misunderstanding as to what we were both talking about. kek.