ArmyLady created this thread:
https://greatawakening.win/p/1ASZR499iH/since-its-creation-out-of-thin-a/
We went back and forth on some things, and my response became so big and hit on so many important topics, that I decided to make a new thread for better visibility, and discussion for anyone that might want to join in:
Responding to ArmyLady's questions:
Thanks fren for filling in some more off the pieces!
This is a MASSIVE topic. Also, probably the MOST IMPORTANT topic to grasp, if you want to understand the world and why it is the way it is.
So who are these jewish power holders? are they the cabal, or lead the cabal? or used by the cabal??
G. Edward Griffin gave a lecture about Cecil Rhodes. Rhodes was probably the wealthiest man in the world at the time of his death (maybe besides the Rothschilds, or maybe even wealthier -- no way to know for sure). He basically became the governor of South Africa when the UK owned it as a British territory. As governor, he eventually bought up a bunch of the gold mines and diamond mines.
The country of Rhodesia is named after him, to give you an idea of his status.
Griffin tells the story of how Rhodes set up a series of trusts, and how he was influenced by what the Illuminati had done 200 years earlier.
They set up a structure that is a "circle within a circle within a circle."
Very few insiders run the inner circle (some say it is 13 families). Then, they have organizations in an outer circle, which they control and are open only to a select number, and then they have another outer circle of organizations that are open to many more people.
The true nature is secret, and the true insiders are only known to themselves.
The Council on Foreign Relations would be an example of that middle circle or maybe even an outer circle. Scottish Rite Temple would be outer circle -- lots of people are invited to join, but only very few will ever be "promoted" to the middle circle.
Rhodes left his fortune to several trusts. The Rhodes Scholarship is funded by one of those trusts. Bill Clinton was identified in college as someone to "bring in" to the outer and then maybe middle circle. He was controlled, ultimately, by the inner circle, the members of whom he may have never met.
Clinton's favorite professor at Georgetown was Carroll Quigley, who was hired by these inner circle people to study their organization, because the people in it didn't even have a full picture of their organization's own history. They invited him in to research their history.
Quigly wrote the book "Tragedy and Hope" about this topic. One of his books was banned because he gave away too much about what he found in his research.
Rhodes probably turned his fortune over to Rothschild, Rockefeller, and/or similar types. Of course, Rothschild and Rockefeller already were massively wealthy. It is these types who run this system.
David Rockefeller wrote in his memoir something like: "My family and I have been accused of creating a one world government. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and am proud of it." He wrote that in his autobiography.
Many of these people are jews, but not all.
"The Cabal" has this system in place. "The jews" are part of that, but they also work amongst themselves inside and outside of "The Cabal."
G. Edward Griffin's lecture on Cecil Rhodes and "The System" --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=msFKhD7Ofn8
BTW, Glenn Beck was fired from Fox right when he was doing a series on these people and interviewing Griffin on this topic. Rupert Murdock (owner of Fox) is, of course, part of "The Cabal." Too much info was going public, it seems.
And why are they jewish at all? Self-identification, ethnic pride, having a jewish mother or a jewish name??
The jews are jews because of their RACE.
To be "jewish" is to practice Judaism. To be "a jew" is to be racially a jew.
They big ones are atheist?
Possibly, some are. A racial jew can practice any religion or none at all.
But if you want to know WHY the ones who are racial jews behave the way they do, whether or not they practice Judaism, I think you need to understand the real story of the Bible (not the bastardized version promoted by most churches -- and jews -- today).
I have a few comments in this thread that explains my basic position on this --
https://greatawakening.win/p/1ASYyyQCGu/edom-theology/
Israel is a secular state which belongs to the "jewish people" [whoever they are] as much as it does to the Martians.
Does not matter. Most average jews don't really know what the fuck is going on, either. Many of them do not know their own history, and have been brainwashed into believing certain things (just as all of us have).
Here are a couple of interesting vids to check out.
2 rabbis who did not understand why Hitler wanted the jews out of Germany, but learned the truth and here they explain it to their fellow jews --
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLqXs9hXsA4
And another rabbi who clearly and precisely understood why Hitler wanted them out of Germany --
https://www.bitchute.com/video/MYHqYJXRsT7k
How do they get ordinary religious Jews to go along?? special race identity?
Propaganda over many decades and centuries.
The Holocaust myth is buried deep into the psychology of most all jews. They all believe it, even though it is a lie.
Plus, it gives them sympathy and MONEY, and some degree of control, so they use it to the hilt.
Did you ever see the movie "Schindler's List?" Spielberg (a jew) made the movie seem like a documentary. But guess what?
The movie was based on the book "Schindler's List," which was originally titled "Schindler's Ark." It was written by an Austrailan man, and the book clearly says THIS on the inside cover:
This book is a work of fiction. Names, characters, places and incidents are either products of the author's imagination or are used fictitiously. Any resemblance to actual events or locales or persons, living or dead, is entirely coincidental."
You can read it yourself on Google Books. Look at the first page after the cover.
https://books.google.com/books?id=gM336KrBqbAC&printsec=frontcover#v=onepage&q&f=false
It won an award by the LA Times for "Best book of fiction" (that was before the movie came out).
Do you want to know where the "6,000,000 died" story came from ?
Jews in New York and London were plotting to take over Russia, institute a communist dictatorship, and then push communism into Europe and take that over, too. Eventually, they wanted to take over the world.
Communism is a jewish invention, and a tool to be used to control the world. A lot of dumb asses today have actually fallen for it.
But this did not happen overnight. It took many years.
The first attempted revolution to take over Russia was in 1904. It failed. The next attempt, in 1917, succeeded.
They started publishing stories in the newspapers in the 1890's and into the early 1900's talking about how "jews are in peril" in Russia. Then the same stories appeared about "jews in peril" in Eastern Europe. Eventually, Germany.
Here is a video showing all these newspaper articles:
https://rumble.com/vtv060-six-million-jews-1915-1938-6-6000000.html
Here is a lecture explaining how and WHY the jews created communism:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=twEWYTvX3lQ
Now, about that Holocaust thingy ...
We are told that 6,000,000 jews died in the 1940's. But according to the World Almanac (the "Wikipedia" before the internet), there were 15.3 million jews in the world in 1933 and 15.7 milllion in the world in 1948.
That math just doesn't math.
15.3 million - 6 million does not equal 15.7 million.
Yes, there were far fewer jews in Germany, but that's because many left to other places.
The best overall explanation of how this lie snowballed, that I have seen, comes from a man who studied the subject and investigated what really happened in Germany during Hitler's time. His name was Benton Bradberry. He wrote a book about what he found. He is interviewed here (fast forward to about 7 minutes because there are audio issues they try to correct in the beginning):
https://www.bitchute.com/video/lWIhsYDStvFo/
A great documentary to watch about Auschwitz is the one by David Cole.
Soon after the Berlin Wall fell, circa early 1990's, East Germany and Poland were in a bit of chaos and nobody was really thinking about people investigating WW2 stuff.
David Cole (not his real name) was a jew who took a camera crew into Auschwitz and basically showed the whole thing was nonsense. Cole's life was threatened and he as become a very weird character, but his documentary was excellent:
Part 1 -- https://www.bitchute.com/video/OOu2lZRh3ZPR
Part 2 -- https://www.bitchute.com/video/j1Aiw7oY9KBO
Here is a document from the International Red Cross explaining that they had people visit Auschwitz and found no signs of a "death camp." It was just a labor camp:
https://media.greatawakening.win/post/OQAUu5AXg8lk.png
Here is Anne Frank's step-sister explaining that the video footage and photos of the Auschwitz liberation was FAKE. It was the Soviets who did that, not the Americans:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/138EteRjYwQD/
However, Eisenhower created a FAKE gas chamber to show members of Congress on their tour after the war ended. Since there were NO gas chambers, he had to create a fake one.
Yes, there were delousing chambers to kill lice as new prisoners came into the camps. They had a shower, had their heads shaved, deloused of lice, and given fresh prisoner clothes.
Typhus was a nasty disease in Europe at that time, and it was carried by lice. Anne Frank died of Typhus, as did many/most of the prisoners who died in the camps.
Fred Leuchter was the world's expert on gas chambers in the 1980's. He was the #1 go-to consultant for states that had the death penalty by gas chamber. He knew how to build them and how to use them so the guards would not be killed by the gas.
Due to a court case in Canada (and then another in Germany), he was hired to investigate the "gas chambers" in the German camps in Germany and Poland.
He compiled a report for the courts. To this day, he is the only man who has been certified by both Canadian and German courts as an expert witness on the subject of WW2 gas chambers in Germany and Poland.
Guess what he found?
There WERE NO GAS CHAMBERS.
There weren't even any physcial structures that could have EVER BEEN gas chambers.
Here is an interview of him:
https://www.bitchute.com/video/E7vTj7jfTpVE
Jews have received BILLIONS of dollars from their fake Holocaust story. They profit from it greatly.
Wall Street funded the Bolshevik Revolution:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PaFklTLNy8c
"Anti-Semitic is a trick we always use:"
https://www.bitchute.com/video/q3sKM5KhT8sG/
Why have jews been kicked out of 100+ countries over the past 1,000+ years?
Because they are easy to get along with?
No.
I think it goes back to what the Bible is all about -- God's Chosen (the White race) vs. the Adversary (aka "Satan" in Hebrew -- the jew race). Again, see my comments in that other thread on this topic.
I can't prove it, but history seems to do a good job of proving it.
The "shabbos goy" of The Cabal are the non-jews who are just psychopaths, and like the idea of being part of "the club" and getting the perks.
The fact that there were lots of articles in the early 20th century drumming up support for Jews, and many of them mention millions of dollars or people, has been mistaken by many as indicating a preplan. They only indicate a tendency for mass media to appeal to one particular plight (among many heartstrings it played at over that era). The reason you think it's "6 million" every single time is that you listened to some idiot who only did a text search for the words "6 million" (even when it's about 6 million dollars), whereas my link showed that others (CODOH) who did a more scientific survey found that "3 million" appeared more often than "6 million". (Which wasn't what they were trying to prove.) So the idea that "6 million" needed to be seeded as a narrative is laughable. In fact, the actual kabbalah that was used to claim that "6 million" was prophesied is also laughable, as it only prophesies "6" if anything, as shown by the hoax #3 writeup.
If your numbers were correct, you'd have a gain of 6.4 million in 15 years to correspond to a loss of 6 million, from a baseline of 15.3 million. Since kids age 0-15 are (rough guess from my recollection) 35%-40% of all population, yes, those are reasonable numbers, even if unrelated old-age death is included. You also used "when MILLIONS (supposedly) were in 'death camps'" as a talking point, but you see the ones in death camps mostly died according to the narrative, so they're not the ones giving birth to the next generation (except for those you also allude to). So this is basic demographics that show the fallacy of the argument in itself, and, instead of going to more detail to support the argument, you pivot to ridiculing the basic demographics (and bring in two other very poor arguments that don't need separate spotlight), which is not good optics for you.
The official language of Israel is Hebrew, not Yiddish. English and Arabic formerly had official status but are now downgraded.
Let me add that the phrase "every single time" is unworthy of this elite research forum, because not only does it mean nothing (it only invites people to supply their own meaning), but it also when analyzed becomes the self-fulfilling claim above (i.e. any non-Jews involved can be held to be Jew-influenced, thus unfalsifiable).
I'm very interested in all sides of these questions, including the ones I disagree with, and you are free to make as many posts at c/Holocaust as you would like. I will not censor anything (I only remove for exceptional moral cause, a clause I've never needed to invoke). You appear to be open-minded about it. I've pointed out to others that accepted figures are actually closer to 5.7 million minimum, a number which a little more noodling could easily round down to 5 million, but people don't seem to argue from this evidence but put forward the idea (which I should probably add to the hoax page) that 6 million people were all cremated in a small number of places in an impossible timeframe. That just makes them look dumb. You seem to be taking people's word for things and more frequently in one direction than another. God would want you to test all things for yourself and only hold onto what his Spirit approves.
(1) Newspapers --
I don't think you even looked at that video, or you wouldn't be saying something about 6 million dollars. That was not in those articles.
The fact remains that there WERE numerous articles published IN THE EXACT SAME YEARS THAT THE JEWS WERE TRYING TO OVERTHROW RUSSIA, all specifically mentioning SIX MILLION JEWS in peril.
And then a few decades later that same 6 million number has been "etched in stone" as the narrative.
Now, if you think the creator of that video just cherry-picked that number and there are other numbers (like 3 million) that are more common, which he ignored ... THEN SHOW ME.
Your link didn't refute anything.
(2) Population --
I have no idea what you are trying to say.
I think you're still trying to justify the 6 million claim, but I can't make heads or tails from what you wrote.
If so ...
The 15.3 million vs. 15.7 million was over 15 years (1933-1948).
But ... "muh SIX MILLION" ... ADDITIONAL deaths ... was only over about 5 years (the "death camp" years of 1940-1944).
There is no "jew population explosion of births" to offset those EXTRA 6 million.
The next 78 years was the same as those 15 years -- roughly even births and deaths, with slight increase.
Where were the 6 million EXTRA BIRTHS in those 5 years ... such that the total worldwide jew population increased slightly?
DID. NOT. HAPPEN.
Which means, the additional 6 million deaths did not happen, either.
(3) Official language of modern state of so-called Israel.
Does not matter.
Jews are not Hebrews of the OT.
They hijacked Hebrew by creating Yiddish, a bastardized version, and calling it "Hebrew."
Oy vey!
(4) Your attempt at censorship.
DON'T try to censor me or anyone else.
I have freedom of speech, just as you do.
(5) Your fake numbers.
Is that a web page created by jews?
I don't care if you want to claim 6 million or 5.7 million or 3 million or 1 million jews purposely killed by the Germans in WW2.
THE. HOLOCAUST. IS. A. LIE.
BTW, I see what you did there. You did the old "limited hangout."
You are saying, "OK, ok, maybe it wasn't 6 million, maybe it was more like 5.7 million."
FUCK. and NO.
The TOTAL numbers of people who died in all the German camps was probably less than 300,000 -- and the vast majority was typhus, or towards the end could have been starvation.
The German civilians were starving, too, as the allies cut off all incoming supplies towards the end of the war.
David Irving found some of the original papers in the British archive, proving that British intel came up with "muh Holocaust" story, and then the jews pushed it for sympathy and money.
The numbers are IMPOSSIBLE.
Not enough crematoriums. Not enough coke to fuel them. ZERO gas chambers, only delousing chambers.
Only 500,000 jews living in Germany BEFORE Hitler came to power, with most of them LEAVING before the war -- because they were not welcome, due to the havoc they created in the 1920's.
Only 3,000,000 jews living in Poland.
I don't know if there were even 6 million (or 5.7 million) jews living in all German-occupied or controlled territory in the first place.
Even using MODERN crematorium equipment, it takes a few hours to burn ONE body.
NO WAY POSSIBLE for 1940's equipment to just make 6,000,000 bodies go ... poof ... disappear.
And then an ADDITIONAL 6 million babies on top of the natural birth rate -- in a war-torn world, no less -- would have to happen to offset the additional deaths.
JUST NONSENSE.
The only thing more ridiculous are the ACTUAL STORIES that some jews have pushed, like the "roller coaster of death."
I saw an interview of an older jew clearly admitting that he lied about things he "saw" during the Holocaust. He said it was justified to lie because the story is important and needs to be told.
Yeah.
Judaism teaches that lying is a moral good if it helps the jews.
And he was not the only liar. Many of them claim they saw things ... even if they were never there to see them.
The entire story is built on lies.
Starting with "Schindler's List" which is a book of FICTION, derived from the author's IMAGINATION.
Says it all.
First, it's not confrontational, I told you that you can say anything and because it's free speech I'll politely agree or disagree or compare my notes with yours. If you feel confronted about it, maybe check whether the source of truth (i.e. Jesus) is certain enough to withstand all confrontation.
I did show you, but I anticipated that you would click through what I showed you. I didn't look at the video because the original story about predictions of 6 million haphazardly included reference to 6 million dollars, reference to 6 million Jews in the first century, and several other superfluities. If they cleaned it up, it still doesn't prove. So what if the Jewish population of Russia was about 6 million at a time when they were shilling for it; that's not something that proves that anyone was seeding that number so as to popularize it with a different event later. Nor is it etched in stone, it's just a historical consensus that can be challenged, such as people like CODOH are doing. In the paragraph I pointed you to, you could have clicked through the sentence, "Germar Rudolf in intro to Don Heddesheimer's First Holocaust gives actual results of searches for millions of Jews from 1 to 7: "three million" is the most common number cited, despite Rudolf backpedaling by treating the data differently even though the generic nature of the data remains constant." Clicking through would give the actual details. Now, I didn't link the details because I didn't think CODOH would be so banal as to purge this unsupportive evidence from their site, but they did, and the preface I cited is now shortened and lacking this detail; it appears in the 5th edition, 2018-07, pp. 31-32, stable PDF. The deletion speaks volumes.
The basic demographics of this population question are that it's reasonable, if taken alone, for 15 million to become 20 million in 15 years and if they don't it's reasonable for a few million to be missing. Now, you provide a partial answer by saying that we don't see these numbers increasing in other periods, and so you answer my rough calculation with another rough calculation. But neither one is probative. The reverting to caps and emphatic delivery suggests you might feel this is becoming contentious; so, since you've answered it, it's merely my observation that it's not enough to cite the two data points alone and then expect everyone to rough-calculate the same way you do. That's assuming you're right about trends since 1945, which don't sound totally accurate either, but that's beside the point. [Add: I see I fell for a trust trap. While World Almanac 1948 does list 9,372,666 Jews in Europe as you link, they used this exact same number every year since 1942 due to lack of updates (1941 didn't have this section). Pew estimates actual 3.8 million in 1945. So unless there's a reason for accepting stale 1942 data, I don't have indications that World Almanac should be the judge of the postwar population.]
"Jews are not Hebrews of the OT"? I've discussed this with many people, and there's always a theory presented that at some point the descendants of Judah (Ioudaios) were totally lost and totally replaced with some other people. If it was done by intermarriage, then the continuing Jewish polity would retain the rights to be called Jews; if it was done by total replacement, then there would be a historical point where that replacement was obvious. But these people never take either tack, so I don't see a reason to question those who demonstrate genealogies that do go back to Judah. (No, Jews don't call Yiddish Hebrew, all linguists know the distinction even though they use the same "alef-beth".)
My pointing out something (IMHO) unworthy is not censorship. The fact that you pivot to charging censorship when we're both anons is itself quite interesting. The mods here are perfectly capable of determining what behavior breaks the rules without my helping them and without censoring anything for content.
I just cite the USHMM to have a baseline from which to speak; it makes zero difference how many Jews are involved in it, because truth and lies can be seen for themselves. Just looking at CODOH a moment ago, they set the baseline at 5.3-6 (which of course they reject), but I don't have a more direct source for 5.3 so I summarized it above; note, only half those are in the camps proper. The issue isn't that I believe the numbers are fake or real, I believe these are a baseline for discussion. But to say (capitalized punctuated) the Holocaust is a lie is to say hardly anything, even though I give you credit for establishing a framework afterward, saying what really happened is 300,000 of all people died in camps, mostly of typhus and starvation. So there you have your own baseline, thanks. I don't know what Irving found, I don't know your gas/oven calculations, I don't know your comparative population stats. I respect your distrust and your sharing of detail but the USHMM is also sharing its detail and you're in competition for the truth. If the truth is on your side, its presentation should be just about as easy for you as the USHMM's, instead of cobbled together from sites that have trouble demonstrating their data convincingly; and you wouldn't need the side trails into emotional stylization and rhetoric.
"Judaism teaches that lying is a moral good if it helps the jews": I do know from comparative religion that that is not a tenet of Judaism, but is a minority view that is also held historically by many original Christian and Muslim sources that are not reflective of the majority tenets of those faiths. If I didn't like Cardinal Newman I could easily cite him to pretend that Catholicism teaches that lying is a moral good if it helps the Catholics.
Returning to my point, I applaud you for providing backup on a point I suggested was incomplete, and for being willing to add detail; at the same time, the matter looks more complicated than you make out because you've listened to rhetoric and exaggeration and have let that flow into your presentation as well. If the truth is as you say, then that would mean the successors of those Jews that would have arranged the hoax are also busy today seeding the anti-Holocaust narrative with shills promoting easily debunked versions. I trust you've seen how this works with other psyops: people close to the truth, being over target, get infiltrated with shills who look like they believe the same things but also act irrational, illogical, and unable to present the pursuit of truth straightforwardly. The shills are there to demoralize and disconnect the truth seekers. To the degree you are a truth seeker, you will see the psyop techniques and avoid including them in your own material, and you can present the facts dispassionately and winsomely. That's why I created c/Holocaust, so that everyone can debate and get to the bottom of it who wants to. I encourage you to feel free to make yourself at home there, as I won't be nearly as critical there as I would at GAW; even though it's little watched, I'd love to see you be able to collate a collection of evidence to lay out your view. But the primary issue I'm going after is whether people are committed to the truth at all costs. I'm prepared to ditch the mainstream Holocaust narrative if the truth leads that way, but so far for me it hasn't.
OK ... I will try ONE more time.
I will just leave you with this about the so-called "Holocaust" numbers.
Simple math.
The narrative is that the Germans systematically murdered 6,000,000 jews. You say it is "closer to" 5.7 million. Fine. Let's use that number.
In 1933, the World Almanac shows there were 15.3 million jews living in the entire world.
In 1948, it shows there were 15.7 million.
We can assume there is a natural birth rate and a natural death rate, each year, that is roughly equal. From 1948 to 2026 the total world population of jews went from 15.7 million to 16.5 million.
Looks like a fairly steady rate to me, with NATURAL births/deaths roughly equal, with a slight increase over time.
The numbers from 1933-1948 seem to be a steady rate, and the same applies to 1948-2026.
BUT ...
You want me to believe that in or around 1940-1944 (5 years) -- the so-called "Holocaust years" -- there were an ADDITIONAL 5.7 MILLION JEWS MURDERED, ABOVE AND BEYOND the natural annual rate.
That would mean the population SHOULD have gone from 15.3 million in 1933 DOWN to 9.6 million by 1945.
These would not have been NATURAL deaths. They would have been ABOVE AND BEYOND anything natural.
And THEN ...
You want me to believe that the worldwide population of jews when BACK UP from 9.6 million in 1945 to 15.7 million by 1948 -- just THREE YEARS LATER.
That is such an outrageous and ridiculous proposition that it should not even be discussed by mature adults.
It is IMPOSSIBLE -- and there is NO EVIDENCE -- that there was any sudden explosion of jew births in those 3 years. Nevermind that it would have been in the aftermath and clean up of a massive war in Europe.
This idea is just not believable in any way, shape or form.
THE. HOLOCAUST. IS. A. LIE.
I rest my case, and am frankly tired of continuing to explain WHY it is impossible.
You believe what you want.
No hard feelings.
Best wishes.
I appreciate your assisting me with my optimistic numbers, but there's a bigger problem (which I indicated in the "Add:" section):
No, when I looked at it, in 1948 it shows that it hadn't gotten any new Europe information since it reported the exact same European number every year since 1942, as I linked. Therefore we cannot assume that the 1948 total was accurate at all.
1942: https://babel.hathitrust.org/cgi/pt?id=mdp.39015055427978&seq=903&q1=jews
1948: https://blogger.googleusercontent.com/img/b/R29vZ2xl/AVvXsEhjRaro7MlB1dkXzTtuoDvsEPGe8nuHaCZTyAQWDid03V9mwD4xfMIX9d6V3puVYuOw0KImlTRqU-rlSO_IjTpXfpqXaLykpEjgwk3xtdsY82H2kSkgjyWjAKzyI1cTqVxUtNBUvwDdN0U4/s1600/Jews+Population+Figures+002.JPG
I'm not asking you to believe anything. I'm skeptical myself. I'm saying that we don't make the decision based on one snippet that, when researched, proves to be published in 1942 and therefore is totally unusable for calculating prison camps 1941-1945.
And that's what Pew reports, and they're generally not charged with being Jewish shills. Did you want to comment on Pew's evidence? https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2015/02/09/europes-jewish-population/
Since what you say to be impossible is indeed highly unlikely, now we need to deal with the probability that reliance upon a single source that I've proven to be dated is insufficient to decide the case. So who do you trust for accurate Jewish population, since between us we now have zero trustworthy sources so far?
"starvation. The German civilians were starving, too"
And there was rationing everywhere including the US.
One reason:
"Glycerine for explosives during WWI and WWII primarily came from the nitration of glycerol, which is derived from natural sources like fats and oils [e.g. meat]. This process produces nitroglycerin, a key component in explosives such as dynamite and smokeless powder."
There were oil and fat collection drives in the US during WWII.
OH YES! Used cooking fats, used oils, anything and everything!