Sigh. I cannot figure this board out to save my life. While I know little about NF, I do know that Ian and Candace have boldly called out anyone and any group they discover is pulling strings in our government: Mossad, Macrons, Bibi, Gates, Soros, Loomer, etc.
These podcasters do not like the war with Iran. There's a real possibility that Charlie Kirk was taken out because of his stance that we should not go to war with Iran and his desire to depart from supporting Israel. Those with influence like Charlie have been warned via Charlie's assassination.
GAW used to listen to those who are America First and who call out Israel. I'm willing to see how this plays out before turning on those who are speaking dangerous truths.
Here's what our President thinks about your pal Candace Owens:
"I know why Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones have all been fighting me for years, especially by the fact that they think it is wonderful for Iran, the Number One State Sponsor of Terror, to have a Nuclear Weapon — Because they have one thing in common, Low IQs. They’re stupid people, they know it, their families know it, and everyone else knows it, too! Look at their past, look at their record. They don’t have what it takes, and they never did! They’ve all been thrown off Television, lost their Shows, and aren’t even invited on TV because nobody cares about them, they’re NUT JOBS, TROUBLEMAKERS, and will say anything necessary for some “free” and cheap publicity. Now they think they get some “clicks” because they have Third Rate Podcasts, but nobody’s talking about them, and their views are the opposite of MAGA — Or I wouldn’t have won the Presidential Election in a LANDSLIDE. MAGA agrees with me, and just gave CNN a 100% Approval Rating of “TRUMP,” not Hand Flailing Fools like Tucker Carlson, who couldn’t even finish College, he was a broken man when he got fired from Fox, and he’s never been the same — Perhaps he should see a good psychiatrist! Or Megyn Kelly, who nastily asked me the now famous, “Only Rosie O’Donnell,” question, or “Crazy” Candace Owens, who accuses the Highly Respected First Lady of France of being a man, when she is not, and will hopefully win lots of money in the ongoing lawsuit. Actually, to me, the First Lady of France is a far more beautiful woman than Candace, in fact, it’s not even close! Or Bankrupt Alex Jones, who says some of the dumbest things, and lost his entire fortune, as he should have, for his horrendous attack on the families of the Sandy Hook shooting victims, ridiculously claiming it was a hoax. These so-called “pundits” are LOSERS, and they always will be! Now Fake News CNN, The Failing New York Times, and all of the other Radical Left “News” Organizations, are “hailing” them, and giving them “positive” press for the first time in their lives. They’re not “MAGA,” they’re losers, just trying to latch on to MAGA. As President, I could get them on my side anytime I want to, but when they call, I don’t return their calls because I’m too busy on World and Country Affairs and, after a few times, they go “nasty,” just like Marjorie “Traitor” Brown, but I no longer care about that stuff, I only care about doing right for our Country. MAGA is about WINNING and STRENGTH in not allowing Iran to have Nuclear Weapons. MAGA is about MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, and these people have no idea how to do that, BUT I DO, because THE UNITED STATES IS NOW THE “HOTTEST” COUNTRY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD! President DONALD J. TRUMP"
4/9/26, 5:58 PM
https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116376634773749603
BE CAREFUL WHO YOU FOLLOW!
I'm acutely aware of how DJT (who I respect) lumped these four together...almost like he was trying to build them up as a group with their commonalities (their audiences can be vastly different, but they are bonding now!). Calling them out repeatedly also brought more awareness to what they're saying regarding America first - the Streisand effect, if you will.
Tucker, Megyn, Candace, and Alex don't care that they aren't invited on TV because it's irrelevant to them and their audience. The generations that follow these podcasters are the younger generations which care nothing about broadcast news; it's anathema to them. Networks are not a source of information for their viewers.
And DJTs hypocrisy in this post seems to have been missed by many as he claims CNNs 100% approval rating just before calling out the "Fake News CNN" in the same post. This is an obvious dog whistle that most of GAW failed to hear. DJT has told us in this post that the networks are sh!t and the podcasters have the floor.
What do woke left and woke right have in common? A lot, including using words like "dog whistle". Something to think about.
Oh and the CNN 100% rating is obviously fake. No one ever has 100% rating. They pushed that narrative hoping it would lull Trump into complacency for midterms, and thats why he keeps saying it all the time. Trolling and lulling at the same time, like only he can do, and Anons used to be able to enjoy these stuff in the past until their IDS took over and drove them to get brainwashed by disinformation narratives.
I agree with you that the CNN rating is fake, which is exactly why Trump claiming the poll as a win in the same post he calls them Fake News CNN is a signal to those who are listening that the "third rate podcasters" who are, in reality, highly ranked podcasters worthy of attention.
The bigger story here is that Trump needs the support of Israel (who is well-loved by much of the population of Iran) while he has us at war with Iran. These podcasters are being consistent with their opinion on wars. I completely respect that stance. Trump needs enough support for this war, so he's differentiating himself from the podcasters BY CLAIMING THEY CAN'T GET INTERVIEWS ON THE FAKE NEWS THAT HE HATES.
Please tell me I'm not the only one here who gets this.
I do know that Ian and Candace have boldly called out anyone and any group they discover is pulling strings in our government
But they dont call out the Vatican. And Candace has never called out Rothschilds.
Wonder why!
And why did she block Loomer when she posted the gay picture of Candace's husband and Milo? I thought Candace loves asking questions!
There's a real possibility that Charlie Kirk was taken out because of his stance that we should not go to war with Iran
This is false. Charlie was very articulate about it. He never said we shouldnt go to war with Iran. He always maintained the nukes should be neutralized, but we shouldnt go there for a regime change goal but most importantly, stated that "Trump has the best information and he will completely support Trump with any of his actions in Iran since he has earned his trust"
and his desire to depart from supporting Israel.
Do you know the context of that internal chat message about stopping causes supporting Israel was about? It had to do with billionaire jews pulling back funding. It had nothing to do with his own stance about Israel.
And do you know why the billionaires were pulling the funding? Go dig it, its easy to find and it gives you the answer you want and demolishes the entire "Israel killed Charlie" narrative.
Bubbles, really? "He never said we shouldnt go to war with Iran."
Charlie Kirk Show, May 1, 2025
“I just don't think we should go to war with Iran… Military strikes against Iran would be war against Iran, period.”
He criticized neoconservatives like Mike Waltz and Alex Wong, calling their foreign policy views “a neoconservative view” tied to past failed wars.
X, April 2025
“A new Middle East war would be a catastrophic mistake… Iran is larger than Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan combined. A war would not be easy and could easily become a calamity.”
This post resurfaced widely after U.S. strikes in early 2026.
Comments to Lindsey Graham, June 2025
“Okay, that sounds good, but that's pathologically insane… Regime change is war… It's very messy, creates a quagmire. And then there is civil war.”
He emphasized Iran’s size and complexity, calling it “a beast of a country.”
Comment to Joe Kent, June 2025
“Joe, stop us from getting into a war with Iran,”
a moment Kent described as loud and urgent.
Bubbles, really? "He never said we shouldn't go to war with Iran."
Good reminder never to use the words "never" and "always", lol. Yes, I stand corrected. In his May 1st podcast, incidentally titled " Why America Must Not Bomb Iran", not only does he say "I just don't think we should go to war with Iran", he even says:
"what if we just do limited airstrikes? You've got to also just take a step back. Wait a second. Why are we trusting our intel agencies so quickly? We've only been in charge for 101 or 102 days. We're all of a sudden going to trust the Biden holdover intel agencies that are telling us Iran is close to a nuclear weapon after they have lied to us at every single corner in every turn"
"Oh, yeah, we're just going to do some strikes in Libya. Oh, really? Libya has been a catastrophe."
"By the way, Qaddafi is a really interesting example as to why Iran wants nuclear weapons. Remember, Qaddafi voluntarily denuclearized."
So you are absolutely right. He was very categorical about no war with Iran, not even limited airstrikes, not even to take out the nuclear weapons (which he showed great skepticism in the first place)
“Joe, stop us from getting into a war with Iran,” a moment Kent described as loud and urgent.
Given his viewpoint in May, I can believe he said that and he probably even told Trump directly to not strike Iran since he was reported to have met Trump in mid June.
So, I can see why people would be so tempted to accept the narrative "Charlie did not want Trump to attack Iran, so he was killed and Trump betrayed Charlie" because everything we are seeing here points to that, right?
Keeping everything above in mind, lets look at the Charlie Kirk Show, June 18, 2025:
"Is the U.S. going to strike Iran? President Trump says he doesn't know yet."
" President Trump has been consistent for over a decade saying that Iran will not get a nuclear bomb. Iran will not get a nuclear bomb. President Trump has said that for 10 years."
"However, if you watch carefully and closely amongst the Washington, D.C. and neoconservative, neo-imperialist class, especially in the Republican Party, they've kind of shifted gears here. They've shifted gears from Iran should not have a nuclear weapon to Iran should not have an Ayatollah"
" And then it was, well, America is going to help Israel take out the nuclear weapon. Still the same theme, but a shift, but still the same theme, one that is defensible if done correctly and prudently. I have some caution towards that intervention, but I can get it. I can get behind that if President Trump executed executes in a way that only he can."
"So now we're talking about regime change off the table."
This was 5 days before Trump actually carried out the strikes on Iran. If we stick to Charlie in May, then Trump betrayed him already with that strike, but if we look at Charlie in June - he is absolutely behind taking out nuclear sites as long as there is no regime change. This is also the reason why Trump keeps saying "I never went there for Regime change, it just happened as a side effect" and "Israel wanted other things" etc.
In May 2025, Charlie was exactly where all of us were - Iran war is a deep state dream and we should keep away from it as far as we can. Dont believe they have nukes. Lets not even do any strikes, because that would lead to a war.
My June, he had already learnt some stuff that made him change his stance completely and he was okay with the strikes, under Trump's leadership as long as it was not for what neocons wanted - regime change.
This is why this narrative that Trump betrayed Charlie Kirk by attacking Iran is so frustrating that it drives me crazy, but then it gets morphed into "Charlie was killed because he tried to stop Trump from attacking Iran".
Charlie tried to stop Trump in mid June.
Charlie was fully behind Trump in end of June.
Charlie was confident in Trump's judgements while he was very suspicious of the neocons.
Charlie was int he fog same as all of us, but when Trump showed him the glimpse of the truth, he started finding his way in the right direction, like most of us here.
This would track as accurate if it were the whole story. However, Charlie was assassinated in September and by the end of February we were at war with Iran.
“Joe, stop us from getting into a war with Iran,” a moment Kent described as loud and urgent.
What else did Joe Kent say? In his resignation letter dated March 17, which was 17 days after the start of Operation Epic Fury, Joe says the following:
"Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby."
And further down he writes:
"Early in this administration, high-ranking Israeli officials and influential members of the American media deployed a misinformation campaign that wholly undermined your America First platform and sowed pro-war sentiments to encourage a war with Iran."
The Director of the National Counterterrorism Center who was appointed by President Trump himself in 2025 resigned because the US was duped by Israel into a war with Iran. And the cited a media campaign on his way out.
Let's examine the media, then...
TPUSAs Student Action Summit was held July 11-13, 2025. Charlie had Tucker there and told Tucker to "Go max" in his speech, knowing Tucker's views on Israel. Charlie was then being pressured to disinvite Tucker to AmFest in December, which he refused to do, leading to the loss of a big donor - “Just lost another huge Jewish donor. $2 million a year because we won’t cancel Tucker.” (text sent by Charlie on September 8).
Charlie was assassinated two days later. Who spoke at AmFest? Not Tucker, who speaks critically of Israel, but Ben Shapiro, Israel's biggest mouthpiece in the US.
And in case you think Charlie and Ben saw eye-to-eye on Israel check out this interview, specifically at 9:36.
Joe Kent, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said "influential members of the American media deployed a misinformation campaign." Getting Ben Shapiro on the stage at AmFest instead of Charlie and Tucker is a big shift, eh?
I hope this helps you see why so many of us believe Charlie was assassinated for his changing views on Israel.
Sigh. I cannot figure this board out to save my life. While I know little about NF, I do know that Ian and Candace have boldly called out anyone and any group they discover is pulling strings in our government: Mossad, Macrons, Bibi, Gates, Soros, Loomer, etc.
These podcasters do not like the war with Iran. There's a real possibility that Charlie Kirk was taken out because of his stance that we should not go to war with Iran and his desire to depart from supporting Israel. Those with influence like Charlie have been warned via Charlie's assassination.
GAW used to listen to those who are America First and who call out Israel. I'm willing to see how this plays out before turning on those who are speaking dangerous truths.
Here's what our President thinks about your pal Candace Owens:
"I know why Tucker Carlson, Megyn Kelly, Candace Owens, and Alex Jones have all been fighting me for years, especially by the fact that they think it is wonderful for Iran, the Number One State Sponsor of Terror, to have a Nuclear Weapon — Because they have one thing in common, Low IQs. They’re stupid people, they know it, their families know it, and everyone else knows it, too! Look at their past, look at their record. They don’t have what it takes, and they never did! They’ve all been thrown off Television, lost their Shows, and aren’t even invited on TV because nobody cares about them, they’re NUT JOBS, TROUBLEMAKERS, and will say anything necessary for some “free” and cheap publicity. Now they think they get some “clicks” because they have Third Rate Podcasts, but nobody’s talking about them, and their views are the opposite of MAGA — Or I wouldn’t have won the Presidential Election in a LANDSLIDE. MAGA agrees with me, and just gave CNN a 100% Approval Rating of “TRUMP,” not Hand Flailing Fools like Tucker Carlson, who couldn’t even finish College, he was a broken man when he got fired from Fox, and he’s never been the same — Perhaps he should see a good psychiatrist! Or Megyn Kelly, who nastily asked me the now famous, “Only Rosie O’Donnell,” question, or “Crazy” Candace Owens, who accuses the Highly Respected First Lady of France of being a man, when she is not, and will hopefully win lots of money in the ongoing lawsuit. Actually, to me, the First Lady of France is a far more beautiful woman than Candace, in fact, it’s not even close! Or Bankrupt Alex Jones, who says some of the dumbest things, and lost his entire fortune, as he should have, for his horrendous attack on the families of the Sandy Hook shooting victims, ridiculously claiming it was a hoax. These so-called “pundits” are LOSERS, and they always will be! Now Fake News CNN, The Failing New York Times, and all of the other Radical Left “News” Organizations, are “hailing” them, and giving them “positive” press for the first time in their lives. They’re not “MAGA,” they’re losers, just trying to latch on to MAGA. As President, I could get them on my side anytime I want to, but when they call, I don’t return their calls because I’m too busy on World and Country Affairs and, after a few times, they go “nasty,” just like Marjorie “Traitor” Brown, but I no longer care about that stuff, I only care about doing right for our Country. MAGA is about WINNING and STRENGTH in not allowing Iran to have Nuclear Weapons. MAGA is about MAKING AMERICA GREAT AGAIN, and these people have no idea how to do that, BUT I DO, because THE UNITED STATES IS NOW THE “HOTTEST” COUNTRY ANYWHERE IN THE WORLD! President DONALD J. TRUMP" 4/9/26, 5:58 PM https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/posts/116376634773749603 BE CAREFUL WHO YOU FOLLOW!
I'm acutely aware of how DJT (who I respect) lumped these four together...almost like he was trying to build them up as a group with their commonalities (their audiences can be vastly different, but they are bonding now!). Calling them out repeatedly also brought more awareness to what they're saying regarding America first - the Streisand effect, if you will.
Tucker, Megyn, Candace, and Alex don't care that they aren't invited on TV because it's irrelevant to them and their audience. The generations that follow these podcasters are the younger generations which care nothing about broadcast news; it's anathema to them. Networks are not a source of information for their viewers.
And DJTs hypocrisy in this post seems to have been missed by many as he claims CNNs 100% approval rating just before calling out the "Fake News CNN" in the same post. This is an obvious dog whistle that most of GAW failed to hear. DJT has told us in this post that the networks are sh!t and the podcasters have the floor.
What do woke left and woke right have in common? A lot, including using words like "dog whistle". Something to think about.
Oh and the CNN 100% rating is obviously fake. No one ever has 100% rating. They pushed that narrative hoping it would lull Trump into complacency for midterms, and thats why he keeps saying it all the time. Trolling and lulling at the same time, like only he can do, and Anons used to be able to enjoy these stuff in the past until their IDS took over and drove them to get brainwashed by disinformation narratives.
I agree with you that the CNN rating is fake, which is exactly why Trump claiming the poll as a win in the same post he calls them Fake News CNN is a signal to those who are listening that the "third rate podcasters" who are, in reality, highly ranked podcasters worthy of attention.
The bigger story here is that Trump needs the support of Israel (who is well-loved by much of the population of Iran) while he has us at war with Iran. These podcasters are being consistent with their opinion on wars. I completely respect that stance. Trump needs enough support for this war, so he's differentiating himself from the podcasters BY CLAIMING THEY CAN'T GET INTERVIEWS ON THE FAKE NEWS THAT HE HATES.
Please tell me I'm not the only one here who gets this.
u/#q916
There's factions here, those following these new threads of truth and those too psyoped by Milint/Mossad to accept it.
Censorship is back, no dissent tolerated
But they dont call out the Vatican. And Candace has never called out Rothschilds.
Wonder why!
And why did she block Loomer when she posted the gay picture of Candace's husband and Milo? I thought Candace loves asking questions!
This is false. Charlie was very articulate about it. He never said we shouldnt go to war with Iran. He always maintained the nukes should be neutralized, but we shouldnt go there for a regime change goal but most importantly, stated that "Trump has the best information and he will completely support Trump with any of his actions in Iran since he has earned his trust"
Do you know the context of that internal chat message about stopping causes supporting Israel was about? It had to do with billionaire jews pulling back funding. It had nothing to do with his own stance about Israel.
And do you know why the billionaires were pulling the funding? Go dig it, its easy to find and it gives you the answer you want and demolishes the entire "Israel killed Charlie" narrative.
Bubbles, really? "He never said we shouldnt go to war with Iran."
Charlie Kirk Show, May 1, 2025
“I just don't think we should go to war with Iran… Military strikes against Iran would be war against Iran, period.” He criticized neoconservatives like Mike Waltz and Alex Wong, calling their foreign policy views “a neoconservative view” tied to past failed wars.
X, April 2025
“A new Middle East war would be a catastrophic mistake… Iran is larger than Iraq, Syria, and Afghanistan combined. A war would not be easy and could easily become a calamity.” This post resurfaced widely after U.S. strikes in early 2026.
Comments to Lindsey Graham, June 2025
“Okay, that sounds good, but that's pathologically insane… Regime change is war… It's very messy, creates a quagmire. And then there is civil war.” He emphasized Iran’s size and complexity, calling it “a beast of a country.”
Comment to Joe Kent, June 2025
“Joe, stop us from getting into a war with Iran,” a moment Kent described as loud and urgent.
Good reminder never to use the words "never" and "always", lol. Yes, I stand corrected. In his May 1st podcast, incidentally titled " Why America Must Not Bomb Iran", not only does he say "I just don't think we should go to war with Iran", he even says:
"what if we just do limited airstrikes? You've got to also just take a step back. Wait a second. Why are we trusting our intel agencies so quickly? We've only been in charge for 101 or 102 days. We're all of a sudden going to trust the Biden holdover intel agencies that are telling us Iran is close to a nuclear weapon after they have lied to us at every single corner in every turn"
"Oh, yeah, we're just going to do some strikes in Libya. Oh, really? Libya has been a catastrophe."
"By the way, Qaddafi is a really interesting example as to why Iran wants nuclear weapons. Remember, Qaddafi voluntarily denuclearized."
So you are absolutely right. He was very categorical about no war with Iran, not even limited airstrikes, not even to take out the nuclear weapons (which he showed great skepticism in the first place)
Given his viewpoint in May, I can believe he said that and he probably even told Trump directly to not strike Iran since he was reported to have met Trump in mid June.
So, I can see why people would be so tempted to accept the narrative "Charlie did not want Trump to attack Iran, so he was killed and Trump betrayed Charlie" because everything we are seeing here points to that, right?
Keeping everything above in mind, lets look at the Charlie Kirk Show, June 18, 2025:
"Is the U.S. going to strike Iran? President Trump says he doesn't know yet."
" President Trump has been consistent for over a decade saying that Iran will not get a nuclear bomb. Iran will not get a nuclear bomb. President Trump has said that for 10 years."
"However, if you watch carefully and closely amongst the Washington, D.C. and neoconservative, neo-imperialist class, especially in the Republican Party, they've kind of shifted gears here. They've shifted gears from Iran should not have a nuclear weapon to Iran should not have an Ayatollah"
" And then it was, well, America is going to help Israel take out the nuclear weapon. Still the same theme, but a shift, but still the same theme, one that is defensible if done correctly and prudently. I have some caution towards that intervention, but I can get it. I can get behind that if President Trump executed executes in a way that only he can."
"So now we're talking about regime change off the table."
This was 5 days before Trump actually carried out the strikes on Iran. If we stick to Charlie in May, then Trump betrayed him already with that strike, but if we look at Charlie in June - he is absolutely behind taking out nuclear sites as long as there is no regime change. This is also the reason why Trump keeps saying "I never went there for Regime change, it just happened as a side effect" and "Israel wanted other things" etc.
In May 2025, Charlie was exactly where all of us were - Iran war is a deep state dream and we should keep away from it as far as we can. Dont believe they have nukes. Lets not even do any strikes, because that would lead to a war.
My June, he had already learnt some stuff that made him change his stance completely and he was okay with the strikes, under Trump's leadership as long as it was not for what neocons wanted - regime change.
This is why this narrative that Trump betrayed Charlie Kirk by attacking Iran is so frustrating that it drives me crazy, but then it gets morphed into "Charlie was killed because he tried to stop Trump from attacking Iran".
Charlie tried to stop Trump in mid June.
Charlie was fully behind Trump in end of June.
Charlie was confident in Trump's judgements while he was very suspicious of the neocons.
Charlie was int he fog same as all of us, but when Trump showed him the glimpse of the truth, he started finding his way in the right direction, like most of us here.
This would track as accurate if it were the whole story. However, Charlie was assassinated in September and by the end of February we were at war with Iran.
“Joe, stop us from getting into a war with Iran,” a moment Kent described as loud and urgent.
What else did Joe Kent say? In his resignation letter dated March 17, which was 17 days after the start of Operation Epic Fury, Joe says the following:
"Iran posed no imminent threat to our nation, and it is clear that we started this war due to pressure from Israel and its powerful American lobby."
And further down he writes:
"Early in this administration, high-ranking Israeli officials and influential members of the American media deployed a misinformation campaign that wholly undermined your America First platform and sowed pro-war sentiments to encourage a war with Iran."
The Director of the National Counterterrorism Center who was appointed by President Trump himself in 2025 resigned because the US was duped by Israel into a war with Iran. And the cited a media campaign on his way out.
Let's examine the media, then...
TPUSAs Student Action Summit was held July 11-13, 2025. Charlie had Tucker there and told Tucker to "Go max" in his speech, knowing Tucker's views on Israel. Charlie was then being pressured to disinvite Tucker to AmFest in December, which he refused to do, leading to the loss of a big donor - “Just lost another huge Jewish donor. $2 million a year because we won’t cancel Tucker.” (text sent by Charlie on September 8).
Charlie was assassinated two days later. Who spoke at AmFest? Not Tucker, who speaks critically of Israel, but Ben Shapiro, Israel's biggest mouthpiece in the US.
And in case you think Charlie and Ben saw eye-to-eye on Israel check out this interview, specifically at 9:36.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=o4Y05zhdy7Q&pp=ygUXQmVuIGNoYXJsaWUgc2VwdGVtYmVyIDnSBwkJ3woBhyohjO8%3D
This interaction happened September 9. Charlie was assassinated the following day.
But don't worry, Bibi immediately informed us that Israel wasn't involved in Charlie's death.
https://youtube.com/shorts/B0wnXRtfJpk
Joe Kent, the director of the National Counterterrorism Center, said "influential members of the American media deployed a misinformation campaign." Getting Ben Shapiro on the stage at AmFest instead of Charlie and Tucker is a big shift, eh?
I hope this helps you see why so many of us believe Charlie was assassinated for his changing views on Israel.