TBH. We’d be better off with Greenland, Alberta or other parts of Canada. If we do add stars to the flag. He’s probably just annoying people/trying to trigger a social media snit fit for one reason or another.
Though I wouldn’t be shocked if he does intend on adding Stars to the Flag and or clearing the way for additional Territories. And he’s deliberately confusing people as to the what places he legitimately has his eye on. Versus what he wants people to think he’s considering. So time and resources are wasted opposing a theoretical move that was never actually going to happen.
God knows what the technocracy movement was about - sounds ominous. But this idea is independent of that movement. It is part of the Trump's Donroe doctrine.
Canada itself was created as a divide and conquer strategy, as a British stronghold right next to America. Even Mark Carney referenced this and 1812 war in his recent speech.
TECHNOCRACY. Series A, No. 19. New York: Technocracy Inc., July 1940.
Magazine, 24pp incl. covers, photographs, charts, and other illustrations. With large map laid in (as issued), printed in black and red, 15”h x 22”w at neat line plus margins. Minor wear to covers, “National Defense” written in pencil at upper edge of front cover. The offsetting shown on the map image is largely invisible on direct observation. Else excellent.
An extraordinarily rare July 1940 issue of the “official magazine of Technocracy Inc.”, at the time an influential organization fueled by Depression-era anxiety, quack economics, isolationism and more than a soupcon of Fascism. Including the large, folding map of the “Technate of America”.
Technocracy Incorporated
The Technocracy movement had its brief heyday in the 1930s, its leading proponent engineer Howard Scott (1890-1970) and his Technocracy Incorporated, founded in 1933. The movement was ideologically somewhat diverse and fractious, but Scott’s version was fueled by the Great Depression and the crisis of capitalism, quack economics, post-First-World-War isolationism, and an infatuation with Fascist form and ritual. At the core of its ideology was a rejection of the “price system” underlying the global economy, in which money as a medium of exchange determines the value of goods and services and financial considerations are fundamental to all economic decision making. Citing the Depression as Exhibit A, movement adherents viewed this system as inherently unsustainable and predicted a total system collapse no later than 1940.
Technocracy Inc.’s prescriptive program had economic, political and geopolitical elements. At the core was a shift from the price system to what Scott called “an energy theory of value”, in which goods and services were to be valued based not on money but in terms of the energy inputs required to produce them. This in turn would necessitate the abandonment of democracy and the embrace of a technocracy—government by an unelected, technically skilled, empirically-driven elite with the expertise necessary to determine values and make rational resource-allocation decisions. The outward manifestations of this authoritarian outlook had a distinctly Fascist flavor: Technocracy Inc. members wore a uniform of double-breasted suit, gray shirt, and blue tie, with the red Technocracy logo worn on the lapel; drove gray-painted cars; and saluted one another in public.
Technocracy, Inc.’s geopolitical program was simultaneously expansionist, isolationist, and autarchic. It called for a “Technate” consisting of a union of the nations of North America, Central America, the Caribbean and northeastern Pacific, along with the northern tier of South America. The rationale was that “the natural resources and the natural boundaries of this area make it an independent, self-sustaining geographical unit.” (The Technocrat, vol. 3 no. 4 (Sept. 1937), p. 3) In keeping with Technocracy Inc.’s authoritarian tendencies, the Technate would ensure its security by enacting a “Continental integration and mobilization”, and “complete conscription of men, materials, machines, and wealth by the government of the United States”, which were to be “placed before all other objectives of the American peoples” (The Technocrat, vol. 9 no. 3 (Apr. 1941), quoted in Manuel L. Quezon III, “Weekend Reading: Everything Old Is New Again”, posted Feb. 15, 2025).
Key to this project was the construction of a chain of far-flung “defense bases” along the Technate’s borders. Behind these the Technate would be entirely secure, its economy “self-sustaining” and independent of global trade, and its defenses sufficient to deter would-be invaders. As such, it would have no need to become involved in the conflicts of either Europe or Asia.
“Opposition to American entry into the wars raging outside our Area is a keystone of Technocracy’s current basic policy. Lest that policy be mis- construed by uninformed persons in the public, Technocracy points out that this position is not held on the basis of humanitarian or pacifist tenets. America is worth fighting for! But we need fight for America only on American terms and from our own Continental defenses. Competent strategy will keep war out of our Area.” (Ibid.)
As with the broader isolationist movement, Technocracy, Inc. had its legs cut out from under it by the attack on Pearl Harbor, the subsequent entry of the United States into the Second World War, and the nation’s near-total mobilization to fight the good fight against Fascism, all within a democratic, capitalist framework. Nevertheless, the organization survives to this day, with a web site, membership and online meetings.
Technocracy magazine and the map of the “Technate of America”
Offered here is a very, very rare issue of Technocracy, which bills itself as the “official magazine of Technocracy Inc.” (p. 3). Ten issues of “Series A” (whatever “Series” means) appeared between 1935 and 1937, and another seven between 1938 and 1939, with a few issues, including the “Series A, No. 19” for “July, 1940” offered here, appearing at scattered intervals through at least 1942.
In any event, the magazine features just two pieces, both by Scott, which leads me to wonder about whether Technocracy Inc. had any intellectual “bench”. The first is a long article titled “America—Now and Forever”, laying out the Technocratic program, replete with charts and illustrated by a fantastic map of the “Technate of America”, more on which below. The second is a reprinting of a controversial address given by Scott at New York’s Hotel Pierre on January 19, 1933.
The large, folding map summarizes Technocracy’s autarchic program. It envisions much of the Americas and eastern Pacific basin as merged into a single “Technate of America”, to be ruled by a technically skilled, empirically-driven, non-partisan elite. The Technate is shown stretching from Greenland west to the International Date Line and south to encompass the Caribbean and parts of Columbia, Venezuela and the Guyanas. Its territory is colored red—the semi-official color of the Technocracy movement, also seen on its logo—and small, circular symbols indicate “Defense Bases” at its outer boundaries, as far afield as Attu; Pago Pago; Cape Farewell, Newfoundland; and Georgetown, Guyana.
All issues of the magazine are exceedingly rare. Indeed, a diligent search of OCLC turns up only a single issue, a copy of “Series A, No. 22” for “December, 1942” at BYU[1] (OCLC # 367413361).
In all, an extremely rare and interesting artifact of this quirky-but-influential Depression-era intellectual and political movement, with unnerving resonance with the economic and geopolitical program of the second Trump Administration.
Rarity and references
As of March 2025, OCLC lists no examples of this issue of Technocracy. The map alone is listed at OCLC #10502189 (Wisconsin Historical) and 1416896796 (Library of Congress). Another is held by Cornell, as noted in Persuasive Maps: PJ Mode Collection, #2551. It’s worth noting that OCLC 54645553 describes a very large (ca. 40” by 60”) map, The Technate of North America: The Minimum Area for the Maximum Defense and Efficiency (1941). It may be this latter map that is visible in a photo of Howard Scott at what appears to be a Technocracy Inc. office.
[1] The BYU catalog lists the issue here. Another example of Series A, No. 22 is held by the Hagley Museum and Library.
TBH. We’d be better off with Greenland, Alberta or other parts of Canada. If we do add stars to the flag. He’s probably just annoying people/trying to trigger a social media snit fit for one reason or another.
Though I wouldn’t be shocked if he does intend on adding Stars to the Flag and or clearing the way for additional Territories. And he’s deliberately confusing people as to the what places he legitimately has his eye on. Versus what he wants people to think he’s considering. So time and resources are wasted opposing a theoretical move that was never actually going to happen.
I think the real long term situation will be that the whole of Americas will be part of US.
...three soverign land masses
https://bostonraremaps.com/inventory/technocracy-inc-technate-of-america-1940/
God knows what the technocracy movement was about - sounds ominous. But this idea is independent of that movement. It is part of the Trump's Donroe doctrine.
Canada itself was created as a divide and conquer strategy, as a British stronghold right next to America. Even Mark Carney referenced this and 1812 war in his recent speech.
We will:
We will:https://bostonraremaps.com/inventory/technocracy-inc-technate-of-america-1940/
Planned a while back:
https://bostonraremaps.com/inventory/technocracy-inc-technate-of-america-1940/
Technocracy, Inc. and the Technate of America Featured image of this map
https://bostonraremaps.com/inventory/technocracy-inc-technate-of-america-1940/
TECHNOCRACY. Series A, No. 19. New York: Technocracy Inc., July 1940. Magazine, 24pp incl. covers, photographs, charts, and other illustrations. With large map laid in (as issued), printed in black and red, 15”h x 22”w at neat line plus margins. Minor wear to covers, “National Defense” written in pencil at upper edge of front cover. The offsetting shown on the map image is largely invisible on direct observation. Else excellent.
An extraordinarily rare July 1940 issue of the “official magazine of Technocracy Inc.”, at the time an influential organization fueled by Depression-era anxiety, quack economics, isolationism and more than a soupcon of Fascism. Including the large, folding map of the “Technate of America”.
Technocracy Incorporated The Technocracy movement had its brief heyday in the 1930s, its leading proponent engineer Howard Scott (1890-1970) and his Technocracy Incorporated, founded in 1933. The movement was ideologically somewhat diverse and fractious, but Scott’s version was fueled by the Great Depression and the crisis of capitalism, quack economics, post-First-World-War isolationism, and an infatuation with Fascist form and ritual. At the core of its ideology was a rejection of the “price system” underlying the global economy, in which money as a medium of exchange determines the value of goods and services and financial considerations are fundamental to all economic decision making. Citing the Depression as Exhibit A, movement adherents viewed this system as inherently unsustainable and predicted a total system collapse no later than 1940.
Technocracy Inc.’s prescriptive program had economic, political and geopolitical elements. At the core was a shift from the price system to what Scott called “an energy theory of value”, in which goods and services were to be valued based not on money but in terms of the energy inputs required to produce them. This in turn would necessitate the abandonment of democracy and the embrace of a technocracy—government by an unelected, technically skilled, empirically-driven elite with the expertise necessary to determine values and make rational resource-allocation decisions. The outward manifestations of this authoritarian outlook had a distinctly Fascist flavor: Technocracy Inc. members wore a uniform of double-breasted suit, gray shirt, and blue tie, with the red Technocracy logo worn on the lapel; drove gray-painted cars; and saluted one another in public.
Technocracy, Inc.’s geopolitical program was simultaneously expansionist, isolationist, and autarchic. It called for a “Technate” consisting of a union of the nations of North America, Central America, the Caribbean and northeastern Pacific, along with the northern tier of South America. The rationale was that “the natural resources and the natural boundaries of this area make it an independent, self-sustaining geographical unit.” (The Technocrat, vol. 3 no. 4 (Sept. 1937), p. 3) In keeping with Technocracy Inc.’s authoritarian tendencies, the Technate would ensure its security by enacting a “Continental integration and mobilization”, and “complete conscription of men, materials, machines, and wealth by the government of the United States”, which were to be “placed before all other objectives of the American peoples” (The Technocrat, vol. 9 no. 3 (Apr. 1941), quoted in Manuel L. Quezon III, “Weekend Reading: Everything Old Is New Again”, posted Feb. 15, 2025).
Key to this project was the construction of a chain of far-flung “defense bases” along the Technate’s borders. Behind these the Technate would be entirely secure, its economy “self-sustaining” and independent of global trade, and its defenses sufficient to deter would-be invaders. As such, it would have no need to become involved in the conflicts of either Europe or Asia.
“Opposition to American entry into the wars raging outside our Area is a keystone of Technocracy’s current basic policy. Lest that policy be mis- construed by uninformed persons in the public, Technocracy points out that this position is not held on the basis of humanitarian or pacifist tenets. America is worth fighting for! But we need fight for America only on American terms and from our own Continental defenses. Competent strategy will keep war out of our Area.” (Ibid.)
As with the broader isolationist movement, Technocracy, Inc. had its legs cut out from under it by the attack on Pearl Harbor, the subsequent entry of the United States into the Second World War, and the nation’s near-total mobilization to fight the good fight against Fascism, all within a democratic, capitalist framework. Nevertheless, the organization survives to this day, with a web site, membership and online meetings.
Technocracy magazine and the map of the “Technate of America” Offered here is a very, very rare issue of Technocracy, which bills itself as the “official magazine of Technocracy Inc.” (p. 3). Ten issues of “Series A” (whatever “Series” means) appeared between 1935 and 1937, and another seven between 1938 and 1939, with a few issues, including the “Series A, No. 19” for “July, 1940” offered here, appearing at scattered intervals through at least 1942.
In any event, the magazine features just two pieces, both by Scott, which leads me to wonder about whether Technocracy Inc. had any intellectual “bench”. The first is a long article titled “America—Now and Forever”, laying out the Technocratic program, replete with charts and illustrated by a fantastic map of the “Technate of America”, more on which below. The second is a reprinting of a controversial address given by Scott at New York’s Hotel Pierre on January 19, 1933.
The large, folding map summarizes Technocracy’s autarchic program. It envisions much of the Americas and eastern Pacific basin as merged into a single “Technate of America”, to be ruled by a technically skilled, empirically-driven, non-partisan elite. The Technate is shown stretching from Greenland west to the International Date Line and south to encompass the Caribbean and parts of Columbia, Venezuela and the Guyanas. Its territory is colored red—the semi-official color of the Technocracy movement, also seen on its logo—and small, circular symbols indicate “Defense Bases” at its outer boundaries, as far afield as Attu; Pago Pago; Cape Farewell, Newfoundland; and Georgetown, Guyana.
All issues of the magazine are exceedingly rare. Indeed, a diligent search of OCLC turns up only a single issue, a copy of “Series A, No. 22” for “December, 1942” at BYU[1] (OCLC # 367413361).
In all, an extremely rare and interesting artifact of this quirky-but-influential Depression-era intellectual and political movement, with unnerving resonance with the economic and geopolitical program of the second Trump Administration.
Rarity and references As of March 2025, OCLC lists no examples of this issue of Technocracy. The map alone is listed at OCLC #10502189 (Wisconsin Historical) and 1416896796 (Library of Congress). Another is held by Cornell, as noted in Persuasive Maps: PJ Mode Collection, #2551. It’s worth noting that OCLC 54645553 describes a very large (ca. 40” by 60”) map, The Technate of North America: The Minimum Area for the Maximum Defense and Efficiency (1941). It may be this latter map that is visible in a photo of Howard Scott at what appears to be a Technocracy Inc. office.
[1] The BYU catalog lists the issue here. Another example of Series A, No. 22 is held by the Hagley Museum and Library.
"Darn 'Zuelans beat us to it!" says disappointed Aussies.
I’m all for it but let’s get Greenland & Australia first.
Trump’s TS post - https://truthsocial.com/@realDonaldTrump/116564063096952080