Ilhan Omar is one. Her dad helped overthrow the Somalian government, then came here as a “refugee”.
I’d wager that a lot of another group that fled Russia in the early 1900s had been revolutionaries, too. “There are no cats in America” from “An American Tail” feels like a taunt.
No clue as to what the splits might be though, or how to find them out.
No doubt others are genuine refugees, though none by the actual legal requirements to be a refugee, because the infiltrators would want legitimate camouflage.
Well, the extreme obvious one. And, as I mentioned, from the 90's onwards, there was deliberate efforts in the USA to bring in swathes of 3rd world immigrants. The whole Somali thing points very directly to that.
I'm not convinced that this was a significant factor pre-90's tho. From direct personal experience of living a stones throw away from an extreme communist country and living among people that the mid-1900's communist - free world conflict directly affects, and then 2nd hand knowledge via refugees from actual communist dictatorships, etc, I think (at this juncture) that it would more than likely be a mistake to equate what took place during the cold war period (pre-1991) and what followed after, in terms of refugees, etc.
One or two? Sure. That's certainly possible, even likely. But not 'many' and not 'a lot'.
And notice, the illegal immigration / refugee activities post cold-war, these aren't so much communist or Marxist in nature, I would guess, but rather corruption. Like the Somalis. Not Marxist ideologically, but certainly induced to be criminals, and fleece the US system, forming a voting block that supports the Dems.
Early 1900s (first half) yes, certainly spies being injected into the West, including the USA.
The real communist infiltration from outside is mainly, I would say, given what I can see, is from CCP China, and then its NOT illegal immigration or refugees, but rather, legal immigration and infiltration, predominantly.
One can of course speculate about communist infiltrators coming as refugees, taking what has happened post 1990 as the reference point, but from my perspective, that's likely to be a false equivalency, and not actually enough to posit that refugees from communism-ravaged nations of the mid1900s included "a lot of commies" who came as spies and infiltrators. But that's how I see it.
In the absence of clear and actual evidence, I'm very hesitant to simply run with a bias because of that has happened post 1991. Too easy.
In the current case under discussion, however, I think it is really not much of a leap to imagine that a child from genuine refugees simply went through the now infiltrated indoctrination system and then ended up like this congressional candidate in question.
Heck, lots and lots and lots of native born American kids are like that. Were their parents all communists, back 40 or 50 years ago?
Yeah, not commenting on the numbers or percentages, no idea what they are, just that it has been done, and still is done on at least occasions. To what extents? No idea, but that wasn’t the point.
I’d count operation paperclip as being relevant to this topic as well. They weren’t refugees, but they were infiltrators under guise of another label for seemingly nefarious purposes.
I am with you, and expect the purposeful infiltrators from among the oppressors are probably in the minority, but that doesn’t mean the others aren’t intended by someone to be weaponized.
Also fairly sure a lot of “refugees” aren’t lawful by international law. They’re supposed to go, temporarily, to the nearest safe harbor, not to the nearest western paradise to be resettled among boatloads of fellow “refugees”. Not a single Somalian should have ever been in the United States as a “refugee”.
Ilhan Omar is one. Her dad helped overthrow the Somalian government, then came here as a “refugee”.
I’d wager that a lot of another group that fled Russia in the early 1900s had been revolutionaries, too. “There are no cats in America” from “An American Tail” feels like a taunt.
No clue as to what the splits might be though, or how to find them out.
No doubt others are genuine refugees, though none by the actual legal requirements to be a refugee, because the infiltrators would want legitimate camouflage.
Well, the extreme obvious one. And, as I mentioned, from the 90's onwards, there was deliberate efforts in the USA to bring in swathes of 3rd world immigrants. The whole Somali thing points very directly to that.
I'm not convinced that this was a significant factor pre-90's tho. From direct personal experience of living a stones throw away from an extreme communist country and living among people that the mid-1900's communist - free world conflict directly affects, and then 2nd hand knowledge via refugees from actual communist dictatorships, etc, I think (at this juncture) that it would more than likely be a mistake to equate what took place during the cold war period (pre-1991) and what followed after, in terms of refugees, etc.
One or two? Sure. That's certainly possible, even likely. But not 'many' and not 'a lot'.
And notice, the illegal immigration / refugee activities post cold-war, these aren't so much communist or Marxist in nature, I would guess, but rather corruption. Like the Somalis. Not Marxist ideologically, but certainly induced to be criminals, and fleece the US system, forming a voting block that supports the Dems.
Early 1900s (first half) yes, certainly spies being injected into the West, including the USA.
The real communist infiltration from outside is mainly, I would say, given what I can see, is from CCP China, and then its NOT illegal immigration or refugees, but rather, legal immigration and infiltration, predominantly.
One can of course speculate about communist infiltrators coming as refugees, taking what has happened post 1990 as the reference point, but from my perspective, that's likely to be a false equivalency, and not actually enough to posit that refugees from communism-ravaged nations of the mid1900s included "a lot of commies" who came as spies and infiltrators. But that's how I see it.
In the absence of clear and actual evidence, I'm very hesitant to simply run with a bias because of that has happened post 1991. Too easy.
In the current case under discussion, however, I think it is really not much of a leap to imagine that a child from genuine refugees simply went through the now infiltrated indoctrination system and then ended up like this congressional candidate in question.
Heck, lots and lots and lots of native born American kids are like that. Were their parents all communists, back 40 or 50 years ago?
Yeah, not commenting on the numbers or percentages, no idea what they are, just that it has been done, and still is done on at least occasions. To what extents? No idea, but that wasn’t the point.
I’d count operation paperclip as being relevant to this topic as well. They weren’t refugees, but they were infiltrators under guise of another label for seemingly nefarious purposes.
I am with you, and expect the purposeful infiltrators from among the oppressors are probably in the minority, but that doesn’t mean the others aren’t intended by someone to be weaponized.
Also fairly sure a lot of “refugees” aren’t lawful by international law. They’re supposed to go, temporarily, to the nearest safe harbor, not to the nearest western paradise to be resettled among boatloads of fellow “refugees”. Not a single Somalian should have ever been in the United States as a “refugee”.