Good question! We cannot atone for our sins to God. This is correct.
With regard to what I meant there, our sins against each other.
For example:
Exodus 22:1-3 - You shall pay (atone) for any property you stole
Exodus 21:33 - You shall pay (atone) for any harm caused because of a pit you have dug
Exodus 22:6 - You shall pay (atone) for any property you destroyed with fire
Exodus 22:7 - You shall pay double for anything stolen while under your care
Exodus 22:8 -You shall have to appear before a judge to determine your innocence (involved in derivation of “right to a trial by jury”, by the way)
Exodus 22:9 - You shall pay for anything stolen while under your hire
In the city, we would typically consider it absurd to think of “destroyed property by fire”, but in the country, someone ignores a burn ban and burns up his neighbors cattle and tractor - reconcile by paying that amount, and in some cases as much as double.
We tend to think of these more as things enforced by civil authorities, but God commands them as well. The law often shouldn’t even need to get involved with a Christian.
With regard to your question, while we cannot atone to God, we aught also “presenting our bodies as a living sacrifice” “circumcise” our hearts and “burn up the old paths of our flesh” and offer up works toward the Kingdom. Those works do not atone for our sins, but also “faith without works is dead”, and so we work them as praise and thanksgiving for our salvation. There’s still sacrifices, but yes, that atonement is not capable of being done by us.
In the situation above, the referenced atonement was toward men, however.
Hey, if I’m ever off base, I’m always up for being challenged, and also retain the right to change my mind.
I also do not claim to have a 100% accuracy rating on everything I say, just a frog doing his best, though imho there’s pretty sound footing for most of the stuff I say, and also words can be tricky to convey meaning with.
what's our part? Jesus atoned once for all sin
Good question! We cannot atone for our sins to God. This is correct.
With regard to what I meant there, our sins against each other.
For example:
In the city, we would typically consider it absurd to think of “destroyed property by fire”, but in the country, someone ignores a burn ban and burns up his neighbors cattle and tractor - reconcile by paying that amount, and in some cases as much as double.
We tend to think of these more as things enforced by civil authorities, but God commands them as well. The law often shouldn’t even need to get involved with a Christian.
With regard to your question, while we cannot atone to God, we aught also “presenting our bodies as a living sacrifice” “circumcise” our hearts and “burn up the old paths of our flesh” and offer up works toward the Kingdom. Those works do not atone for our sins, but also “faith without works is dead”, and so we work them as praise and thanksgiving for our salvation. There’s still sacrifices, but yes, that atonement is not capable of being done by us.
In the situation above, the referenced atonement was toward men, however.
yeah that makes sense, phew, had me worried about a false Gospel fren
Hey, if I’m ever off base, I’m always up for being challenged, and also retain the right to change my mind.
I also do not claim to have a 100% accuracy rating on everything I say, just a frog doing his best, though imho there’s pretty sound footing for most of the stuff I say, and also words can be tricky to convey meaning with.
Also, that format of “sermon” drives me absolutely batty.
Better to take a nap than listen to some of that drivel.