This may be a temporary fools errand as newer means of spying on you have advanced to tracking mobile devices in the vehicle as you go down the road.
When they came out with EZPass, I knew it was just a matter of time before they started issuing speeding tickets in the mail using simple VASCAR between tool booths - Distance = Time x Speed ... Speed = Distance / Time
There isn't a day that goes by that I don't curse these automotive engineers - not only for making service an unnecessary nightmare, but purposefully routing unrelated circuits like speakers, the clock etc through the same electronic cluster as the OnStar & similar bullshit nearly NOBODY wants - and nobody wants to pay for either.
In MANY cases, as the video shows, disabling the collection of YOUR data is purposely convoluted AND it often comes at the cost of breaking something else that seems to be completely unrelated - like speakers - or making the check engine light come on - which in many states is an instant vehicle inspection failure.
My hope is that in time, grassroots will catch up with custom electronics - which have really come down in price in recent years, such as Pad2Pad etc.
Disabling this stuff in many cases will cause problems at the dealership - so if you're not turning your own wrenches on your out of warranty vehicle, this might be an important factor for you.
I was surprised by how easy it was,for most cars. Maybe you can just replace it when you go to the dealership. IDK
If they make it harder in the future,this still opens up cars for the last 8 years or so. You can have a lot of modern features and not give up privacy....
We need open-source cars, with open-source software, and open-source parts so we can assemble and repair cars ourselves. That way we won't need the big automakers and their fully enshitified cars.
For those who don't know,your car can rat you out to your insurance company. They give an example of a guy who raced his car on the track,and then became uninsurable. This needs a little more investigation,IDK if it voids your warranty....
I know a guy who backed into something in his own garage and fixed it himself like a big boy, with cash. He had an increase with his insurance statement and called to see what’s up. They said it was from the accident he had that was reported to them by Onstar! He had no idea this was even reported.
If a car company used privacy as a selling point, they would make bank. That does not happen though, so I can only conclude they make more money by spying on you and selling your information.
Matter of time before this gets near impossible to disable. They will probably start building this tech into the ECM’s (engine control module) soon if they haven’t. I suspect the fact that they don’t build-it-in is just a sourcing / supply-chain thing for now. Or, they will tighten the ‘hackability’ some other way if this disabling goes mainstream (not likely).
It is funny - the guy who took his car to the ‘race track’…….. Autocross isn’t even really ‘racing’. Generally speaking, it is one car at a time, on a small parking lot circuit - not a ‘race track’. It probably makes you a better driver really - learning the car’s limits in a controlled environment………
It ain’t ‘racing’ though, just a form of motorsport. Insurance will never see it that way though.
There is probably ‘non-motorsports usage’ language in most insurance policies so, legally they may be correct in pulling coverage. It is a form of motorsports, I guess…..not racing 😀. I always thought of it as an ‘advanced safety course’ 😀.
I’ve heard different stories on how an incident is reported and resolved. Some companies have no issue w/ it while others are denied.
Bottom line - read the fine print of the policy…….( ……or…maybe…....’boating accident caused it’ 😀).
This may be a temporary fools errand as newer means of spying on you have advanced to tracking mobile devices in the vehicle as you go down the road.
When they came out with EZPass, I knew it was just a matter of time before they started issuing speeding tickets in the mail using simple VASCAR between tool booths - Distance = Time x Speed ... Speed = Distance / Time
There isn't a day that goes by that I don't curse these automotive engineers - not only for making service an unnecessary nightmare, but purposefully routing unrelated circuits like speakers, the clock etc through the same electronic cluster as the OnStar & similar bullshit nearly NOBODY wants - and nobody wants to pay for either.
In MANY cases, as the video shows, disabling the collection of YOUR data is purposely convoluted AND it often comes at the cost of breaking something else that seems to be completely unrelated - like speakers - or making the check engine light come on - which in many states is an instant vehicle inspection failure.
My hope is that in time, grassroots will catch up with custom electronics - which have really come down in price in recent years, such as Pad2Pad etc.
Disabling this stuff in many cases will cause problems at the dealership - so if you're not turning your own wrenches on your out of warranty vehicle, this might be an important factor for you.
Stay frosty....
I was surprised by how easy it was,for most cars. Maybe you can just replace it when you go to the dealership. IDK
If they make it harder in the future,this still opens up cars for the last 8 years or so. You can have a lot of modern features and not give up privacy....
Motorcycles AFAIK are an option... for now.
This needs to be made illegal. It is disgusting how parasitic these corporations have become.
We need to push back as much as possible. My car is a 2017 so I don't think it has this on it. I just don't connect my cell phone to my car.
We need open-source cars, with open-source software, and open-source parts so we can assemble and repair cars ourselves. That way we won't need the big automakers and their fully enshitified cars.
AND that is why there are "NO MORE SHADE TREE MECHANICS" in existence!!!!!!
Which is a shame because the cars have WAY TOO MUCH GADGETRY on them to even be "PRODUCTIVE"!!!!!!
For those who don't know,your car can rat you out to your insurance company. They give an example of a guy who raced his car on the track,and then became uninsurable. This needs a little more investigation,IDK if it voids your warranty....
https://youtu.be/n4FkqJo4J3w?si=38wwUV2oLPRSrdXs
https://youtu.be/c2yoOKdfqDc?si=Yj-WP1XGqd9XKWUJ
More good info.
I know a guy who backed into something in his own garage and fixed it himself like a big boy, with cash. He had an increase with his insurance statement and called to see what’s up. They said it was from the accident he had that was reported to them by Onstar! He had no idea this was even reported.
Wow,never would have guessed that.
That why I prefer to drive an older truck w/o all this tracking crap.
If a car company used privacy as a selling point, they would make bank. That does not happen though, so I can only conclude they make more money by spying on you and selling your information.
We may have an issue getting parts in the future. If you know you will need a brake job,you might buy parts now.....
Good info.
Matter of time before this gets near impossible to disable. They will probably start building this tech into the ECM’s (engine control module) soon if they haven’t. I suspect the fact that they don’t build-it-in is just a sourcing / supply-chain thing for now. Or, they will tighten the ‘hackability’ some other way if this disabling goes mainstream (not likely).
It is funny - the guy who took his car to the ‘race track’…….. Autocross isn’t even really ‘racing’. Generally speaking, it is one car at a time, on a small parking lot circuit - not a ‘race track’. It probably makes you a better driver really - learning the car’s limits in a controlled environment………
It ain’t ‘racing’ though, just a form of motorsport. Insurance will never see it that way though.
That would be a good way to learn your car. I've seen a lot of videos of people spinning out and slamming into a tree....
It does happen…….. but rare.
There is probably ‘non-motorsports usage’ language in most insurance policies so, legally they may be correct in pulling coverage. It is a form of motorsports, I guess…..not racing 😀. I always thought of it as an ‘advanced safety course’ 😀.
I’ve heard different stories on how an incident is reported and resolved. Some companies have no issue w/ it while others are denied.
Bottom line - read the fine print of the policy…….( ……or…maybe…....’boating accident caused it’ 😀).