I watched a video few days ago, can't remember where I saw it but, the guy was saying China is making moves to create a gold backed currency with hopes that it will pull investors away from the dollar.
Trump needs to counter China with our own gold backed currency or the other alternatives. (precious metal backed or asset backed). There is some talk of gold bonds being offered here in the US, not sure what kind of effect that will have on the precious metal spot prices or if it would throw a wrench in the banker's ability or desire to crush the silver market. JD Vance spoke on price floors for precious metals. I know they are planning on opening up more depositories around the country.
Whatever the fix will be, they need to implement it soon before all the excitement is squashed from the precious metal market. We had a really good rally going before the banks killed it 6 months ago.
Actually, China's gold stockpile is like it is for many others, primarily a backstop if currencies tank - especially their own.
China would have to figure out a way to wipe their massive fiat debt and stay intact. Some of that gold they have stockpiled may actually be fake. Precious metals fakery in China is rampant. Their fakery has gotten very sophisticated and difficult to detect using the usual standard detection methods.
China's meteoric rise was nothing more than smoke and mirrors built on centralized political management, not market forces. A market driven economy is what they sold to the world to bring in investment. That foreign investment that helped build that rise has been bailing and it shows. It is insane. Some estimates have their real debt at several hundred percent of GDP. I have heard figures over 300%. Most of that debt is off book and not reflected in official stats - which pretty much everyone with half a brain knows that the CCP's numbers are not reliable.
The debt is all the way down the food chain. Local governments carry possibly more than the central government. They spent trillions on political directives ordered from the top. Poorly built infrastructure that is starting to crumble built with no real purpose or return just to boost GDP numbers. Real estate is a disaster. They built an illusion that the world and Chinese citizens bought.
The CCP's desperate for liquidity to keep the illusion going. The CCP's answer, private asset confiscation. The signals coming out of Beijing are alarming and point in that direction. The CCP has already done this in their past not long after they took power. The warning signs are there that they are planning something similar. They have been blocking the exits to stop capital flight which has been off the charts. Those that can get out of the country with their money have been doing just that over the last couple of years. Now it is more difficult. They started confiscating the passports of millions. Beijing this last year has really slammed those doors shut. They can't get their hands on that money if it's overseas. They are doing things like tax audits back 25 years with lots of fines and penalties. They have been arresting bosses and owners confiscating their assets. Arrests are not difficult considering that the entire Chinese system is corrupt. The CCP is systematically destroying the geese that lay the eggs. They are taxing everything they can to squeeze out what little is left.
The country is being eaten alive by their own debt, corruption, and mismanagement. All they can do to keep their heads above water is to keep pumping more RMB into the system and continue exporting their overcapacity overseas. Several of those companies are under water and operate at a loss. They are zombie companies that Beijing orders the banks to give more bad loan money just to keep it all from collapsing. Trump stopped them from sending all that overcapacity here. He sees what they are about and what they have been trying to do - even if others don't. Other places like the EU and Canada, to name a few, are too stupid to see and are falling into the CCP trap. Exports right now are the only thing keeping that economy somewhat functional to the detriment of those that insist on entangling themselves to the Chinese dream.
So the idea that the Chinese can manage something like a precious metals backed currency to me sounds ridiculous. They are communists and function like communists. Xi himself is Mao 2.0. The CCP and the Chinese citizens connected to them are corrupt as hell. It is systemic rather than isolated. Their entire system is built on sand and will never work in the long term - at least in a way that benefits anyone other than the Communist elites. It is crumbling. They will not be able to lead anyone much less themselves. At least not for long.
But, you are right that if they were to plan something like what you suggested, the US must counter it. I would not put something like that past the CCP. But, making the attempt and actually making it work don't go together where the CCP is concerned. Trump is doing his best to insulate us from whatever insanity the CCP tries to pull.
Thanks for the detailed response. Ya, I remember couple years ago we were thinking the Chinese financial system was going to collapse around the Evergrande ghost city debacle. I am sure they have not fully recovered from that. I saw a video where they imploded 15 of the high-rise apartment buildings a while back.
Trump ended China's cheap oil out of Iran. I read yesterday China's inflation is at a 20 month high.
I know Trump has something planned, getting anxious to see what the plan is. I am retirement age and looking to start collecting my social security but I need the precious metal market to take off again to retire comfortably.
You are most welcome. China is a subject I follow closely and have for years. It is a challenge trying to read the tea leaves in that CCP black box.
Honestly, I have never viewed precious metals as an investment. They should be viewed more as a safety net when everything else goes to shit. A backstop. I have some silver too. But I have it so if the currency goes to crap I have something.
Here is something you might be interested in. He is talking about gold, but the same can also be said about silver. Many of the same principles apply. He is Chinese living in Japan.
Silver wouldn't be considered a great investment if you were buying it at recent prices, however, I started stacking silver 20 years ago when it was $6 / ounce. So, if you do the calculations, you can say it was a very nice investment.
I watched the video, thank you. He makes a lot of sense. The fundamentals for higher priced silver still remain. The bankers can smash it, but it will always climb back out of the hole.
Below is a video from Ron's Basement. He talks about that $20,000 ounce of gold on the US Mint. He also talks about 30,000 contracts on Comex for December that have call options for $20,000 gold. I'm not sure why we are getting clues pointing to $20,000 gold. That would be 5 times increase in price of gold and if silver followed, then we would see the $300 silver some people were predicting.
I watched a video few days ago, can't remember where I saw it but, the guy was saying China is making moves to create a gold backed currency with hopes that it will pull investors away from the dollar.
Trump needs to counter China with our own gold backed currency or the other alternatives. (precious metal backed or asset backed). There is some talk of gold bonds being offered here in the US, not sure what kind of effect that will have on the precious metal spot prices or if it would throw a wrench in the banker's ability or desire to crush the silver market. JD Vance spoke on price floors for precious metals. I know they are planning on opening up more depositories around the country.
Whatever the fix will be, they need to implement it soon before all the excitement is squashed from the precious metal market. We had a really good rally going before the banks killed it 6 months ago.
Actually, China's gold stockpile is like it is for many others, primarily a backstop if currencies tank - especially their own.
China would have to figure out a way to wipe their massive fiat debt and stay intact. Some of that gold they have stockpiled may actually be fake. Precious metals fakery in China is rampant. Their fakery has gotten very sophisticated and difficult to detect using the usual standard detection methods.
China's meteoric rise was nothing more than smoke and mirrors built on centralized political management, not market forces. A market driven economy is what they sold to the world to bring in investment. That foreign investment that helped build that rise has been bailing and it shows. It is insane. Some estimates have their real debt at several hundred percent of GDP. I have heard figures over 300%. Most of that debt is off book and not reflected in official stats - which pretty much everyone with half a brain knows that the CCP's numbers are not reliable.
The debt is all the way down the food chain. Local governments carry possibly more than the central government. They spent trillions on political directives ordered from the top. Poorly built infrastructure that is starting to crumble built with no real purpose or return just to boost GDP numbers. Real estate is a disaster. They built an illusion that the world and Chinese citizens bought.
The CCP's desperate for liquidity to keep the illusion going. The CCP's answer, private asset confiscation. The signals coming out of Beijing are alarming and point in that direction. The CCP has already done this in their past not long after they took power. The warning signs are there that they are planning something similar. They have been blocking the exits to stop capital flight which has been off the charts. Those that can get out of the country with their money have been doing just that over the last couple of years. Now it is more difficult. They started confiscating the passports of millions. Beijing this last year has really slammed those doors shut. They can't get their hands on that money if it's overseas. They are doing things like tax audits back 25 years with lots of fines and penalties. They have been arresting bosses and owners confiscating their assets. Arrests are not difficult considering that the entire Chinese system is corrupt. The CCP is systematically destroying the geese that lay the eggs. They are taxing everything they can to squeeze out what little is left.
The country is being eaten alive by their own debt, corruption, and mismanagement. All they can do to keep their heads above water is to keep pumping more RMB into the system and continue exporting their overcapacity overseas. Several of those companies are under water and operate at a loss. They are zombie companies that Beijing orders the banks to give more bad loan money just to keep it all from collapsing. Trump stopped them from sending all that overcapacity here. He sees what they are about and what they have been trying to do - even if others don't. Other places like the EU and Canada, to name a few, are too stupid to see and are falling into the CCP trap. Exports right now are the only thing keeping that economy somewhat functional to the detriment of those that insist on entangling themselves to the Chinese dream.
So the idea that the Chinese can manage something like a precious metals backed currency to me sounds ridiculous. They are communists and function like communists. Xi himself is Mao 2.0. The CCP and the Chinese citizens connected to them are corrupt as hell. It is systemic rather than isolated. Their entire system is built on sand and will never work in the long term - at least in a way that benefits anyone other than the Communist elites. It is crumbling. They will not be able to lead anyone much less themselves. At least not for long.
But, you are right that if they were to plan something like what you suggested, the US must counter it. I would not put something like that past the CCP. But, making the attempt and actually making it work don't go together where the CCP is concerned. Trump is doing his best to insulate us from whatever insanity the CCP tries to pull.
Thanks for the detailed response. Ya, I remember couple years ago we were thinking the Chinese financial system was going to collapse around the Evergrande ghost city debacle. I am sure they have not fully recovered from that. I saw a video where they imploded 15 of the high-rise apartment buildings a while back.
Trump ended China's cheap oil out of Iran. I read yesterday China's inflation is at a 20 month high.
I know Trump has something planned, getting anxious to see what the plan is. I am retirement age and looking to start collecting my social security but I need the precious metal market to take off again to retire comfortably.
You are most welcome. China is a subject I follow closely and have for years. It is a challenge trying to read the tea leaves in that CCP black box.
Honestly, I have never viewed precious metals as an investment. They should be viewed more as a safety net when everything else goes to shit. A backstop. I have some silver too. But I have it so if the currency goes to crap I have something.
Here is something you might be interested in. He is talking about gold, but the same can also be said about silver. Many of the same principles apply. He is Chinese living in Japan.
Gold Investors Are Panicking. They're Missing One Big Thing
Have a great weekend.
Silver wouldn't be considered a great investment if you were buying it at recent prices, however, I started stacking silver 20 years ago when it was $6 / ounce. So, if you do the calculations, you can say it was a very nice investment.
I watched the video, thank you. He makes a lot of sense. The fundamentals for higher priced silver still remain. The bankers can smash it, but it will always climb back out of the hole.
Below is a video from Ron's Basement. He talks about that $20,000 ounce of gold on the US Mint. He also talks about 30,000 contracts on Comex for December that have call options for $20,000 gold. I'm not sure why we are getting clues pointing to $20,000 gold. That would be 5 times increase in price of gold and if silver followed, then we would see the $300 silver some people were predicting.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AKtgRgv54T4&t=1s