Why was she at the concert? Why was anyone else at the concert? Presumably, to listen to music -- and now what? Women aren't allowed to leave the house in your view?
Why did she dress the way she did? The article said she was wearing a skirt. Okay -- you want her to wear a burka?
What "bad choice" did she make? Living her life without YOUR permission?
The saddest part is that you're actually serious. This creep shoves a phone under her skirt and it's her fault he can't control himself? What is it with you?
Don't date or get married. You'll make some poor woman miserable with your controlling attitudes.
Agreed. A few years ago I was working in my office. My desk faced the hallway. The desktop is granite and does not have a front on it. One day I was doing my paperwork sitting at my desk. Wearing a skirt. A man slid down the hallway wall opposite me. He looked as if he was doing a wall squat. I realized he was trying to get a peek. (Stood up and shut the door) Found out later he was a pastor.
I specifically said what the creep did was not OK. I'm just asking about why she was in that situation to begin with. If I had a daughter, I wouldn't be OK with her going into that kind of situation. Where is her father in all this? Does she even have a boyfriend? The Great Awakening isn't just about overthrowing the elite cabal, it is about restoring reasonable value and morals in our society. Fifty years ago, this kind of thing wasn't a problem. This isn't about control, it is about keeping women protected and safe.
So basically you are saying that in order to be "protected" women should never be allowed to leave the house because creeps are everywhere. There is absolutely nowhere you can go that you won't find creeps. I personally know one young lady who was raped in her synagogue while attending some sort preparatory class for her bat mitzvah. There isn't anywhere that's safe!
Creeps are creeps. It doesn't matter what you look like. It doesn't matter what you are wearing. It doesn't matter how old you are. They don't care. It isn't about how a girl.looks. IT IS SOMETHING SICK AND TWISTED IN THEM.
Here's a "Great Awakening" for you -- don't blame the victims. It really makes any woman who was ever bothered by a creep see red!
Oh and fifty years ago while walking across campus from the student union toward the Philosophy building I was grabbed by a creep who tried to pull me into the bushes. Luckily, two guys who I knew happened to be in the vicinity and came when I began screaming. So you're wrong! Creeps have been creeping since the dawn of time.
See, your story emphasizes my point. I'm not saying women can't be out and about, they just should have a responsible man with them who can offer protection. You're correct that there is nowhere without creeps, which leads back to my first point. This is why lesbians are such a disaster, they don't have protection. I'm not blaming the victim here, I'm just asking some sensible questions about precautions that I think we should all be asking. If someone gets in a car accident, we ask questions about whether they were speeding or if they were distracted by their phones. Those are sensible questions. But apparently asking questions about the situation is victim blaming. This is the kind of leftist victimization that DEI and feminism is build on, and that we are trying to put a stop to. We should never try to change policy out of a sense of victimhood.
You asked the very same questions rape victims have been asked for decades. (Why was she there? Why was she wearing that?) There are countless descriptions of "interviews" where the victim gets blamed for the crime utilizing those very same questions! Don't tell me you've never heard about this!
So let me see if I understand you correctly. A woman shouldn't go anywhere without a man to protect her. That means fifty years ago when I was grabbed on campus by that creep, I shouldn't have been going to school and getting an education unless I had a man with me? That makes no sense whatsoever.
Women have to be able to live. They can't spend their days cowering in constant fear locked up in a house until some man has the time or inclination to take them for a "outing"!
That is impractical! How about giving creeps that are caught the death penalty? Who knows? Eventually by giving them the death penalty creeps might go extinct!
It's so frustrating because I KNOW that YOU would not like to be locked up in a house waiting for someone to "protect" you in order to go out. Yet you think nothing of believing women should be tickled pink to be kept prisoner (for their own protection) because creeps can't control themselves.
I am not talking about women who indulge in risky behaviors. If a woman goes into bars and gets herself sloppy drunk then that's just plain stupid on her part. She shouldn't be attacked either but she wasn't keeping an eye out for her own safety. But who can blame a girl taking a preparation class for her bat mitzvah for getting raped in her synagogue?
Women can be bothered anywhere at anytime. Ask any girl who has had some clown cop a feel on a crowded bus. That's what pepper spray is for!
Believe me if God let you be a woman for one month so you could see what we have to put up with, you'd have a different opinion altogether!
Sure it was. Disc cameras were pretty incognito.
People havent changed their base, fleshly desires, kinks, perversions at all.
Since the fall, a zillion iterations of the same thing have occured.
You are way off base in your self-righteous judgement.
I'm actually kinda "prudish" when it comes to alot of things, but sheesh.
Yes, there will always be pervs. I'm just trying to ask some questions to figure out how we can prevent this from happening again. Why am I the bad guy? If she had a man (a real man, not some clean-shaven yuppie) with her, then this likely would not have happened. This is what the Great Awakening is all about, working together to prevent this kind of thing from happening.
Why was she at the concert? Why was anyone else at the concert? Presumably, to listen to music -- and now what? Women aren't allowed to leave the house in your view?
Why did she dress the way she did? The article said she was wearing a skirt. Okay -- you want her to wear a burka?
What "bad choice" did she make? Living her life without YOUR permission?
The saddest part is that you're actually serious. This creep shoves a phone under her skirt and it's her fault he can't control himself? What is it with you?
Don't date or get married. You'll make some poor woman miserable with your controlling attitudes.
Some people are pro sharia. They want to control women and have no personal resposibility.
When your religion says you can't control yourself...you must control everyone else.
Which of course is useful for their Supremacist handlers.
Agreed. A few years ago I was working in my office. My desk faced the hallway. The desktop is granite and does not have a front on it. One day I was doing my paperwork sitting at my desk. Wearing a skirt. A man slid down the hallway wall opposite me. He looked as if he was doing a wall squat. I realized he was trying to get a peek. (Stood up and shut the door) Found out later he was a pastor.
I specifically said what the creep did was not OK. I'm just asking about why she was in that situation to begin with. If I had a daughter, I wouldn't be OK with her going into that kind of situation. Where is her father in all this? Does she even have a boyfriend? The Great Awakening isn't just about overthrowing the elite cabal, it is about restoring reasonable value and morals in our society. Fifty years ago, this kind of thing wasn't a problem. This isn't about control, it is about keeping women protected and safe.
So basically you are saying that in order to be "protected" women should never be allowed to leave the house because creeps are everywhere. There is absolutely nowhere you can go that you won't find creeps. I personally know one young lady who was raped in her synagogue while attending some sort preparatory class for her bat mitzvah. There isn't anywhere that's safe!
Creeps are creeps. It doesn't matter what you look like. It doesn't matter what you are wearing. It doesn't matter how old you are. They don't care. It isn't about how a girl.looks. IT IS SOMETHING SICK AND TWISTED IN THEM.
Here's a "Great Awakening" for you -- don't blame the victims. It really makes any woman who was ever bothered by a creep see red!
Oh and fifty years ago while walking across campus from the student union toward the Philosophy building I was grabbed by a creep who tried to pull me into the bushes. Luckily, two guys who I knew happened to be in the vicinity and came when I began screaming. So you're wrong! Creeps have been creeping since the dawn of time.
See, your story emphasizes my point. I'm not saying women can't be out and about, they just should have a responsible man with them who can offer protection. You're correct that there is nowhere without creeps, which leads back to my first point. This is why lesbians are such a disaster, they don't have protection. I'm not blaming the victim here, I'm just asking some sensible questions about precautions that I think we should all be asking. If someone gets in a car accident, we ask questions about whether they were speeding or if they were distracted by their phones. Those are sensible questions. But apparently asking questions about the situation is victim blaming. This is the kind of leftist victimization that DEI and feminism is build on, and that we are trying to put a stop to. We should never try to change policy out of a sense of victimhood.
You asked the very same questions rape victims have been asked for decades. (Why was she there? Why was she wearing that?) There are countless descriptions of "interviews" where the victim gets blamed for the crime utilizing those very same questions! Don't tell me you've never heard about this!
So let me see if I understand you correctly. A woman shouldn't go anywhere without a man to protect her. That means fifty years ago when I was grabbed on campus by that creep, I shouldn't have been going to school and getting an education unless I had a man with me? That makes no sense whatsoever.
Women have to be able to live. They can't spend their days cowering in constant fear locked up in a house until some man has the time or inclination to take them for a "outing"!
That is impractical! How about giving creeps that are caught the death penalty? Who knows? Eventually by giving them the death penalty creeps might go extinct!
It's so frustrating because I KNOW that YOU would not like to be locked up in a house waiting for someone to "protect" you in order to go out. Yet you think nothing of believing women should be tickled pink to be kept prisoner (for their own protection) because creeps can't control themselves.
I am not talking about women who indulge in risky behaviors. If a woman goes into bars and gets herself sloppy drunk then that's just plain stupid on her part. She shouldn't be attacked either but she wasn't keeping an eye out for her own safety. But who can blame a girl taking a preparation class for her bat mitzvah for getting raped in her synagogue?
Women can be bothered anywhere at anytime. Ask any girl who has had some clown cop a feel on a crowded bus. That's what pepper spray is for!
Believe me if God let you be a woman for one month so you could see what we have to put up with, you'd have a different opinion altogether!
Sure it was. Disc cameras were pretty incognito. People havent changed their base, fleshly desires, kinks, perversions at all. Since the fall, a zillion iterations of the same thing have occured.
You are way off base in your self-righteous judgement.
I'm actually kinda "prudish" when it comes to alot of things, but sheesh.
Yes, there will always be pervs. I'm just trying to ask some questions to figure out how we can prevent this from happening again. Why am I the bad guy? If she had a man (a real man, not some clean-shaven yuppie) with her, then this likely would not have happened. This is what the Great Awakening is all about, working together to prevent this kind of thing from happening.
Maybe she was with a dude and he was just off taking a piss?
Looking is one thing. A camera up the dress is a violating.