I must ask, are we heading to Islam? Pretty shocking to me. The passivity amongst Christians is beyond shocking.
So,,many people are around me, they say as a Christian I should just pray.
So many people say the Muslims are good people.
As a Christian man, I was highly disappointed. The vibe was just be decapitaded.
I just don’t understand. Please help me understand.
...understanding requires accepting the fact that we have been sold down the river...
Send them these historic facts:
Time for crusades 2.0. Crusades 1.0 was defense. Click the map for details:
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What to Expect: The Effect Of Muslim Population Growth on a Society
https://shoebat.com/2011/07/02/what-to-expect-the-effect-of-muslim-population-growth-on-a-society/
by Shoebat Foundation on July 2, 2011 in General by Michael Haltman, Homeland Security Examiner June 23, 2010 …original article… …click here for a related video from our media library…
What happens to society's as the Muslim population grows in percentage of the total?
In the book, Slavery, Terrorism and Islam: The Historical Roots and Contemporary Threat, written by Dr. Peter Hammond, he explores the topic of the impact that an increasing Muslim population has on that society. The lists below illustrate the Muslim population status of countries around the world, and exactly what changes to the societies can be expected according to Hammond.
The book as well as the author are controversial, but the topic is definitely something that needs to be explored and understood. From the book: As long as the Muslim population remains around or under 2% in any given country, they will be for the most part be regarded as a peace-loving minority, and not as a threat to other citizens. This is the case in: United States — Muslim 0.6% Australia — Muslim 1.5% Canada — Muslim 1.9% China — Muslim 1.8% Italy — Muslim 1.5% Norway — Muslim 1.8%
At 2% to 5%, they begin to proselytize from other ethnic minorities and disaffected groups, often with major recruiting from the jails and among street gangs. This is happening in: Denmark — Muslim 2% Germany — Muslim 3.7% United Kingdom — Muslim 2.7% Spain — Muslim 4% Thailand — Muslim 4.6%
From 5% on, they exercise an inordinate influence in proportion to their percentage of the population. For example, they will push for the introduction of halal (clean by Islamic standards) food, thereby securing food preparation jobs for Muslims. They will increase pressure on supermarket chains to feature halal on their shelves — along with threats for failure to comply. This is occurring in: France — Muslim 8% Philippines — 5% Sweden — Muslim 5% Switzerland — Muslim 4.3% The Netherlands — Muslim 5.5% Trinidad & Tobago — Muslim 5.8%
At this point, they will work to get the ruling government to allow them to rule themselves (within their ghettos) under Sharia, the Islamic Law. The ultimate goal of Islamists is to establish Sharia law over the entire world.
When Muslims approach 10% of the population, they tend to increase lawlessness as a means of complaint about their conditions. In Paris, we are already seeing car burnings. Any non-Muslim action offends Islam, and results in uprisings and threats, such as in Amsterdam, with opposition to Mohammed cartoons and films about Islam. Such tensions are seen daily, particularly in Muslim sections, in: Guyana — Muslim 10% India — Muslim 13.4% Israel — Muslim 16% Kenya — Muslim 10% Russia — Muslim 15%
After reaching 20%, nations can expect hair-trigger rioting, jihad militia formations, sporadic killings, and the burnings of Christian churches and Jewish synagogues, such as in: Ethiopia — Muslim 32.8% At 40%, nations experience widespread massacres, chronic terror attacks, and ongoing militia warfare, such as in: Bosnia — Muslim 40% Chad — Muslim 53.1% Lebanon — Muslim 59.7%
From 60%, nations experience unfettered persecution of non-believers of all other religions (including non-conforming Muslims), sporadic ethnic cleansing (genocide), use of Sharia law as a weapon, and jizya, the tax placed on infidels, such as in: Albania — Muslim 70% Malaysia — Muslim 60.4% Qatar — Muslim 77.5% Sudan — Muslim 70%
After 80%, expect daily intimidation and violent jihad, some state-run ethnic cleansing, and even some genocide, as these nations drive out the infidels, and move toward 100% Muslim, such as has been experienced and in some ways is on-going in: Bangladesh — Muslim 83% Egypt — Muslim 90% Gaza — Muslim 98.7% Indonesia — Muslim 86.1% Iran — Muslim 98% Iraq — Muslim 97% Jordan — Muslim 92% Morocco — Muslim 98.7% Pakistan — Muslim 97% Palestine — Muslim 99% Syria — Muslim 90% Tajikistan — Muslim 90% Turkey — Muslim 99.8% United Arab Emirates — Muslim 96%
100% will usher in the peace of ‘Dar-es-Salaam’ — the Islamic House of Peace. Here there’s supposed to be peace, because everybody is a Muslim, the Madrasses are the only schools, and the Koran is the only word, such as in: Afghanistan — Muslim 100% Saudi Arabia — Muslim 100% Somalia — Muslim 100% Yemen — Muslim 100%
Unfortunately, peace is never achieved, as in these 100% states the most radical Muslims intimidate and spew hatred, and satisfy their blood lust by killing less radical Muslims, for a variety of reasons. Map courtesy of PBS. …original article… …click here for a related video from our media library…
Honestly, I think there has been a concerted effort to neuter Christians with "turn the other cheek" and "love your enemy" so as to tame our resolve. We cannot speak of violence on this Board, so all I can say is that there will be Christians who do respond in kind, and soon. That's my prediction. There will be a global holy war, and the Cabal planned it.
Some Muslims are good people. Unfortunately they are utterly incapable of stopping the extremist factions of Islam. As a result the violence will persist, and it will be turned against 'good' Muslims when they refuse to give in to the violent factions. It's coming. Islam has made a fatal error in minimizing Christ, and as a result, satan has used it to broaden violence that won't allow them to walk the narrow path Christ pointed to, which isn't about violence and vengeance, but about defense and protection.
Islam is a very real threat. We can't even remove the extremist factions either, as another will rise citing the same violent verses.
In Christianity there is no way to be violent except in cases where you are part of the military or government forces, defending or protecting others and yourself, and even then you can't engage in violence for violence's sake, or enact vengeance (which is the Lord's)
There is no "extremist faction". There is no "radical Islam". It is all born from the same doctrine. The Muslims who are 'good people' are either A. Impious and don't really care about Islam or B. Putting on an act. Playing the long game. Islam as a whole is the worship of Baal, that's why it perverts and distorts the Bible, whilst utterly relying on it, in its own words and doctrine. Raymond Ibrahim is a Coptic Christian, and he has a YouTube channel that covers Islam very well. Sam Shamoun is also a former Muslim with a realistic grasp of the doctrine. I would recommend them both for anyone who wants to learn more about Islam.
I want to push back on that a little bit. The Alawites and Shia groups are nothing like the Sunni jihadist groups. The later is what i mean by a radicalized extremist faction that has been radicalized by a deceiver to do the opposite of God's will.
I haven't seen any videos from the two you mentioned yet, but to date i primarily examine the source with faith in God to help discerning the truth.
But lets be careful with rash or hasty judgements about people, since it's not really our role - it's God's. The missions from Christ are for us to preach the Gospel, become fishers of men, and speak truth to nations. So the best way to do that is with God-like forgiveness, mercy, patience, and grace! I can't change people, but He can. So, i just share the truth to be like Christ, trust and follow him, then let the light of Christ shine through me. Who knows? Maybe God is using me to spark a catalyst for later wondering, pondering, and finding Christ too. Which would be far more graceful way than deeply offending and ensure they hate you forever and never listen to you.
The lions are circling brother....
You're right, and when the hyenas try something we just need to swat them and they flee.
Please read the Quran. Perhaps this is God showing you the world is not sunshine and rainbows. Islam is evil, and it is the worship of Baal. It was founded by a caravan robber who married a 9-year-old. There are literal centuries of proof that show Islam is hostile towards Christendom and Christianity. Take everything physical off the table, Islam still leads people to Hell. And you want to blow the whistle?
If you're not even going to look at the sources, then there is no point in you speaking to me. It's nice that you want to be like Christ. But you don't get to pick and choose what parts of Jesus you want to be like. If you think Christ would sit here and make apologies and excuses for Muslims, maybe you just think Jesus is a hippy pacifist. No, Jesus would remind them they worship false gods (fallen angels), live evil and sinful lives, and are destined for Hell.
The Quran is the source of extremism (That's where they're told to fight you, because they believe Christians and Jews corrupted the words of God). Open it. The Hadiths are the source of extremism. Alawite and Shia groups may very well be different, because their ways of advancing Islam are far more subtle and subversive. Perhaps they've come to love money more than conquering (for now). But I would never turn my back to them, and I pity any man who would. Because he is a fool.
"I am the Way, the Truth, and the Life. None shall come to the Father except through me"
"For I have not come to bring peace, but a sword, for I have come to turn brother against brother, a daughter against her mother, a daughter-in-law against a mother-in-law. A man's enemies will be the members of his own household"
Both of these quotes show Jesus was not here to pander to people, and He knew full well the division he would cause in his teaching and his sacrifice. He was no sewing-circle Christian.
Jesus was not here to make you feel better about your sins. He was here to make us know our sins, and to sacrifice Himself, that we might be redeemed if we humble ourselves and surrender to Him. I'm sorry man, the Christ talk just comes off as boomer nonsense because it's not even doctrinally consistent. I would not be surprised if you were British, given how far back you're willing to bend over to defend people you don't know, who wouldn't do the same for you.
I think you're missing the heart of the Gospel. When Jesus said "I came not to bring peace but a sword", it's not a license for hostility. Christ was speaking of division that would come because of Him, not to create division by our own harshness. The sword He brings is the truth of the Word.
You say Islam leads people to hell. I agree. But how do we lead them out? By mimicking the Pharisees? Christ dined with tax collectors and prostitutes. He didn't begin by condemning them, but by loving them. The woman at the well was a Samaritan, a half-breed heretic in Jewish eyes, and He didn't start with "you worship false gods." He offered her living water.
I'm not saying we compromise the truth. The Quran is false. Muhammad was a false prophet. Islam is idolatry. I'll say that plainly. But shouting that at a Muslim doesn't save them, it hardens him.
Christ wouldn't stand at a mosque and scream "you're going to hell!" He might say it to the Pharisees who knew the Law and rejected Him. But to the lost? He wept.
I'm not a "boomer", nor a Brit bending over, just a man who knows that without the grace of God, I'd be just as lost as any Muslim. And if God can save me, He can save them. My job is not to beat them with the Quranic verses they already know by heart. My job is to show them the love of Christ so that when I speak the hard truths, they'll listen.
The good Muslims I mentioned are people created in God's image, deceived by a false system. Some who have never had the Gospel presented in love. I refuse to be the reason a soul goes to hell because I was too proud to show patience.
Paul wrote, "If your enemy is hungry, feed him." That is spiritual warfare, fighting darkness with light, not with more darkness.
So yes, I'll continue to pray, teach, preach, show mercy, and if that makes me a fool in your eyes, I'll gladly be a fool for Christ.
I suggest you take the time to awaken to the truth of the gospel: Christ has already won over death, so we have nothing to fear living out the light of Christ, which nothing can stand up to. When you're on the winning side, you can live by joy, even in the valley of the shadow of death, and it's glorious!
How are you going to explain a Bible verse to me that I just explained in my comment? Did you even read my comment? No.
Whether it's a literal sword, or a figurative sword, what about that quote is uniting? He is literally telling people: "People are going to hate Me, and hate you because of Me. Because I am only taking those deemed worthy to Heaven, and the rest are going to burn eternally. I will tell them they are doing X thing wrong, and rather than admit it they will hate me, and even kill me". There is nothing comforting about that statement, the comfort is His presence and His reason for coming down.
Have you read the Old Testament? What does God do to those who openly worship false gods? How many nations were used as an invocation of God's wrath? Suddenly Jesus arrives and the God of Love, Mercy and Justice is suddenly only the God of Love and Mercy?
"But how do we lead them out? By mimicking the Pharisees?" Well the first step is telling them they're wrong. Which you are too afraid to do. You won't even speak out against them, behaving like a wolf amongst sheep.
"But shouting that at a Muslim doesn't save them, it hardens him." And how many Muslims are here, that I am shouting at them?
"Christ wouldn't stand at a mosque and scream "you're going to hell!"" Is that what I am doing? I would urge you to read again. And keep in mind who the audience is. I am not attacking the people, I am attacking the doctrine. Just as I'm sure there were good Nazis, there are surely good Muslims. It does not change that Islam is barbaric, and its text expressly tells Muslims to humble you. You specifically, as a Christian, or as they call it, a 'Polytheist'.
"I'm not a "boomer", nor a Brit bending over," Then stop acting like one, and start making those neurons fire, that's what God gave you them for. If you want to go over to Europe and tell them they need to love the Muslims and that will fix everything, be my guest.
"The good Muslims I mentioned are people created in God's image, deceived by a false system. Some who have never had the Gospel presented in love. I refuse to be the reason a soul goes to hell because I was too proud to show patience." All people are created in God's image. And yet they sin. Maybe they would hear the gospel more often if they'd stop killing Christians? Food for thought. I can promise you, that you are not the reason anyone else goes to hell. That is you overstating your importance on your part. We are all destined for Hell. And without the Holy Spirit, we will ALWAYS burn eternally. If you want to show patience, then why did you make the post? You are clearly having doubts, and yet you want to play pacifist? Makes no sense.
"So yes, I'll continue to pray, teach, preach, show mercy, and if that makes me a fool in your eyes, I'll gladly be a fool for Christ." Except it isn't for Christ. It's using Christ as a shield from responsibility. Something tells me He would not appreciate that. Innocents suffer at the hands of Islam, and you want to look away. Most people like you would not have bombed Iran, because of this very sentiment. You will appease long before you ever stand your ground. As if anything about Christ was inoffensive to the people he preached to. You mention the Pharisees, did Jesus not confront them?
"I suggest you take the time to awaken to the truth of the gospel: Christ has already won over death, so we have nothing to fear living out the light of Christ, which nothing can stand up to. When you're on the winning side, you can live by joy, even in the valley of the shadow of death, and it's glorious!" Then why even have an account here? The plan succeeded, the battle is won, nothing to worry about anymore!
Nothing here really touches what I said, it's all just sewing-circle Christianity that your ancestors would perceive as spineless and weak. I am not calling for more crusades. But if words are a step too far, then this battle is not for you.
Christ rebuked Pharisees with fire, but He wept over Jerusalem. You can condemn Islam without condemning every Muslim to your contempt.
I called Muhammad a false prophet; you called me spineless. Which of us is more like the One who said 'Father, forgive them' while being murdered?
If you have a better evangelistic method than love, patience, and truth spoken at the right time, produce it.
If all you have is righteous anger without a strategy to actually save souls, then you are a clanging cymbal, and Paul had harsh words for those.
I have not condemned one Muslim. But if telling a sinner they are a sinner is too harsh, I'm not sure what else to do then just lay back and 'let God handle it'.
God can lift a drink of water to your mouth, no? Then why doesn't he do it right now, since you thirst? Is that an example of his inability? Or his unwillingness? Or maybe he wants you to get off your ass and drink for yourself because he gave you the means to do so, and if he has to lift his hand every time you want something, he is less of a God and more of a servant to man.
"He's a false prophet but just dance and joy and love and everything will be better!" Yeah, that's what I was calling spineless. You admit he's a false prophet, but don't want to criticize those who follow him. You believe harsh words will harden them, as they behead another Christian family. Oh, the moderates you mean? The ones who cower in fear and say nothing as said Christians are beheaded, or as they kill their own daughters? You'll forgive me if I don't give them the benefit of the doubt.
Again, pay attention to what I'm saying and who I am saying it to. Is there even one Muslim here? Am I evangelizing? No. I am spreading awareness amongst Christians and those with Christian ethics. There is a difference. Islam thrives because of falsehood, and it is not just contained to Islam. Many Christians think 'turn the other cheek' is a way to live, and not Jesus telling the Jews to stop being so vengeful over every little thing, because they had taken the law way too far.
I follow Jesus, not Paul. Paul was the homie, but he also never lived in the world I do. He was just a man, like me, and would struggle just as I have. I do not have righteous anger (except maybe towards your inability to understand my point, and your willingness to run away from it without objectively confronting it). But I will always prefer righteous anger to indifferent pacifism, or this 'holy apathy/Christian defeatism'. Go and try to evangelize in a Muslim country, you will then be presented with a choice: Pay the 'Jizyah' (a tax, meant to substitute for your blood), be imprisoned or die. Oh well, you'd pay the tax for sure. Except now you can only preach in Church, no proselytizing on the streets. Islam is Satan's baby, and you want to handle it with kid gloves.
Save as many souls as you want. You have not addressed one point I've said. You've done nothing but tell me I'm not a real Christian. That's a very poor argument. Christianity is not a religion of sunshine, happiness and kumbaya. It is a religion of sacrifice, persecution, and mourning.
It's ironic how our Constitution tolerates a religion that doesn't tolerate ours. Can't we just declare them unconstitutional?
As a Christian, I say consult the Bible. Heck, I'm reading Proverbs and it is eye opening what God directs his children to do. Maybe He has instructions.
I stopped hanging out with evangelicals because they refuse to act on anything.. its the "Jesus take the wheel" crowd.. no you need to take control!!
Im reminded of christians praying in the arena as lions circled.. same shit
Just look forward to the fact that as a Christian, you get to spend ETERNITY in heaven-- where there will be no Islam, no Jews, no faggots.... Just normal folks that loved Jesus and used His example to love each other. Comforts me all the time. Let it burn, I know where I'm headed.
Do you?