Depends on how big the nuke is that they would use and how high up it’s detonated. Nukes are the most reliable method to get wide area EMP effects. A bigger nuke higher up in the atmosphere produces a wider area of effect.
Even if only individual cities were targeted, it would still take months/years to get their power grids fixed. Everyone living there would still be FUBARed.
This is the greatest explanation for Trump endorsing the jab that I’ve ever heard. It makes so much sense. Too bad so many others don’t see it and want to complain about Trump “pushing the jab”.
Also, before I forget, the use of “probably” and “I don’t know” do not mean that you’re not making assumptions. What you’re doing is using intentionally vague language to imply your points without actually saying anything concrete. Then you retreat behind the defense “I don’t know, probably”. It’s intellectually laziness. Make a concrete point and defend it.
Of course some people are going to do or say things unquestionably, that happens in any group of people that have even a vaguely common goal. No argument there.
The question at hand is a) did the people pointing at Trump’s rally do it unquestioningly, and b) is their gesture bad/can it be manipulated by media. And in your OP exploring these questions you did indeed make several assumptions:
In point 1 of your post you imply that the pointing gesture resembles another gesture, then failed to specify what that gesture was. You assumed a) that there is a sufficiently similar gesture, and b) that we would know what this gesture is and connect the dots for you. Your expecting us to complete your own argument without defining explicitly what your point is. Unfortunately someone else in this thread assumed that the gesture looks like the Nazi salute. If the first thing one thinks of when seeing patriotic Americans is Nazis, then that’s a major red flag that the person in question has been influenced by Leftist propaganda.
In point 3, you imply that researching Q makes one a herd animal. This is an assumption. Also, while you’re not obligated to read all the Q drops, not reading Q at all because you think it’s “sheeple” stuff isn’t going to get you very far here at GAW.
In point 4, you compare the people at the rally to Ray Epps. I think I shouldn’t have to point out how incoherent this argument is. What Epps did is not the same thing and not at the same scale.
In point 6, you assume that normies and new people might get confused and turned off by the pointing.
In point 7, you assume that the pointing is retarded, again without explaining why.
Here’s the crux of the matter: who gets to define how symbols are used, and who has the right to get offended over them? Should Trump ban all Q stuff from his rallies since MSM already gets their panties in a wad over that? Should people be banned from flying the Confederate flag because the only possibly interpretation is that it’s racist? Should the OK gesture be banned because some idiots think it means white power?
My answer to these questions is no. The people who invent or most commonly use the symbol get to define what it means. And while you have to right to get offended and think it’s retarded, you don’t get make assumptions about what a symbol may mean or why people use it.
Lastly, the power of the MSM is overstated. They’ve called us Nazis and worse for years, yet our movement grows uninterrupted. More people distrust MSM than ever before. People are turning to other sources. We are the new media. We are more powerful than they are. It’s time we started acting like and not live in fear.
“Those are probably not the anons who have been researching Q for a while…”
You’re use of the word “probably” reveals that you’re making an assumption about people you don’t know. They could have been new to Q, they could know nothing about Q, they could have been following Q from the start.
You’re making a mountain out of a molehill over assumptions of your own making.
If you think Trump supporters and Q researchers are sheeple or have herd mentality, then I don’t know what to tell you.
People engaging in similar behavior because they have a similar mentality and values is not always being a herd or being sheeple. This shouldn’t be hard to distinguish.
I can’t find anything about having no stars or black stars on the flag. As far as I can tell this configuration hasn’t been used anywhere else. Plus, others have reported that they see the stars flash white briefly, and are only black because of the weird lighting conditions.
It may still be significant, but I’m going to need more proof that it specifically means America is occupied.
I agree that the wells have been poisoned, on this topic and many others, but flat earthers show a breathtaking lack of discernment, scientific literacy, and common sense.
Resisting division is important, but so is pointing out obvious nonsense that leads people astray.
“Don’t trust NASA, they are Freemasons and Nazis”
“Here, watch this video on how the Nazis we’re the good guys”
Holy crap, I didn’t even see that. Thanks for pointing that out! Flat earthers truly are just that stupid.
Also, I didn’t say that you were a CIA agent. My point is that if you’re going to accuse me of liking Freemasons and satanic math without evidence, then I’m going to accuse you of being a CIA agent without evidence. If you don’t like that, then change how you debate.
Spot on.
To be fair, there are things that our institutions have lied to us about, so it’s healthy to have some skepticism of the mainstream narrative. However, this skepticism has to be backed by evidence. Flat Earthers are contrarians for the sake of being contrarians, which doesn’t help anyone.
The earth is curved. It has been proven by every observation in existence. Flat earthers themselves have proved it. It’s not my fault you’re too lazy to see the evidence for yourself.
“I have no theory. My theory is…”
You’re a retard. You admit that you have a theory, and my point is that if you have a theory, you better damn well provide evidence for it. Shrieking that everyone else but you is a liar is not evidence.
“There are glaring holes in the globe earth theory.”
Then show the holes. So far every “hole” in the theory stems from flat earthers being entirely ignorant of the science they are so quick to dismiss. If you’re going to dismiss something, at least try to understand it first so that you can refute it effectively.
Your third paragraph is remarkably accurate. I don’t see why you think it’s so preposterous.
“I’m not arguing for earth to be one thing or another”
Yes you are, you are arguing that the earth isn’t round. That is a pitiful excuse for not having to provide evidence, facts, or reason. You clearly did not anticipate having to actually defend your position.
Did you mean to respond to someone else? I’ve been advocating for round earth.
Oh, great, you’re a flat earther AND a Hitler worshipper. That just makes you so much more trustworthy! /s
“Hitler wasn’t bad, he was just misunderstood!” GFY
You attempt to prove that history has been fabricated… with a documentary who’s fundamental assumption is that history is fabricated. That’s called a circular argument. You’re also assuming that the “evidence” that Hitler was a good guy weren’t also fabricated. Evidence for your worldview is legit, evidence for everyone else is fabricated. That’s called hypocrisy.
Also, even if parts of WWII were fabricated, that does not mean that other parts are fabricated as well. That’s called a non sequitur.
The why absolutely holds importance. Especially when you want to dodge the question because you can’t answer it.
The motion of earth has been clearly demonstrated in the motion of the other planets and the parallax of stars as earth goes through its orbit. The evidence for a round earth and heliocentrism is overwhelming. You don’t want to view the evidence because it contradicts your worldview.
I am not a “trust the science” guy, I am a “follow the evidence” guy. “Trust the science” is anathema to science itself. The “trust the science” crowd wasn’t asking you to trust science, they were asking you to trust govt’s and corporations who were actively withholding evidence. Round earth advocates, far from withholding evidence, have openly published their findings and evidence for anyone to debunk at any time. A feat that none of you flat earthers can accomplish.
If Q said stuff that didn’t pan out, then that should cast his credibility in doubt. However, it’s impossible to say whether something he said hasn’t planned out because a) he often spoke cryptically, and b) he wasn’t always talking to us.
You’re the one who brought up Q first, but then when I pull a quote that refutes your point you immediately pivot to “I don’t take Q seriously, some of his stuff didn’t pan out!”
“I don’t have a theory to prove”
Yes, you do. If you prefer flat earth over round earth, it’s your job to show evidence that your theory is correct. If you want to assert that space and round earth are fairytales, it’s your job to prove it.
The earth doesn’t “hurdle” through the vacuum, it is in a well defined and stable orbit around the sun. Strawman arguments aren’t your friend.
I have no physical evidence?!? I have literally provided evidence throughout this entire thread. You just disregard the evidence because it doesn’t fit your theory. Which is the exact same mistake that the evolutionists make.
“Some variation of” 666 is not the same as 666. 0.666, 66,600, and 66.6 are not the same and have no spiritual or religious significance. And even if all 50 measurements you allege really were 666, what percentage is the 50 measurements out of the total? There are tens of thousands of objects in the solar system each with their own axial tilt, orbital velocity, and curvature. It is statistically guaranteed that some numbers are going to have multiple 6’s in them.
I don’t choose to trust the scientists who say that the earth is round. I study the evidence that they provide and decide for myself whether it makes sense and corresponds with reality. Their arguments on Covid jabs and evolution don’t hold up to scrutiny, so I don’t believe them. The arguments for a flat earth also don’t add up, so I don’t believe it. The arguments for a round earth do make sense and are coherent, so that’s why I believe a round earth.
Your insistence that round earthers are deluded and don’t follow evidence is called “projection”
If proving a flat earth is so easy, why do flat earthers keep accidentally proving the earth is round?
“I am this way because it’s the observational truth”
No, you’re not. Flat earthers are the way they are for two reasons:
- They have an insatiable desire to have “secret knowledge” that everyone else is too stupid to grasp. This stems from an inferiority complex due to not understanding basic science.
- They are CIA operatives sent to sow division in TDW and GAW and delegitimize both groups by conflating them with irrational gobbledygook.
If you’re going to accuse me of loving Freemasons and satanism, then I’m going to accuse you of being a CIA operative. Or a complete moron, your pick.
Q also said that the earth isn’t flat. Cope harder.
“Muh DiSiNfO NeCeSsAry!!!! RRREEEE!”
“Demonstrably fabricated history”
Prove that history has been fabricated. Every argument for this that I’ve heard so far assumes it’s own premise. No, you may not invoke Freemasons (not without evidence). No, you may not call me uneducated or deluded just because I don’t buy your story.
I did not say anything about the North Star changing, that was someone else in this thread. Though his theory is plausible since Earth’s axis precesses over time.
“NASA, an organization of Freemasons and Nazis”
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Just because an organization is partially made up of such people does not mean their statements are wrong. This is an inverse of the appeal to authority fallacy. A theory’s plausibility is independent of its source.
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No flat earther has ever demonstrated what said Freemasons gain by lying about the shape of the earth. Round earth does not disprove God, creation, or the Bible.
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Round earth advocates gladly publish all their findings and evidence for the public to check out. People who aren’t Freemasons or Nazis have double checked the work and it all checks out. Kind of hard to lie to people when your research is open source.
100%
Scripture clearly teaches a pre Trib rapture, with a millennial reign happening afterwards. Biblical prophecy can be initially confusing, but patient study will render its meaning clear. The Bible is not written to confuse people, all you have to do is study what it says.
Q’s quote was about how many times he predicted Trump would tweet X number of minutes after a Q drop. You’re taking his quote out of context to mean something that it wasn’t intended for.
Well, we agree the illegals are trash. We’re making progress!
Curved windows do not distort light nearly as much as you think they do.
Source: studied optics in a college physics class.
That’s your argument?
“I’m right because all of history is wrong!”
That is the most arrogant argument I have ever heard. That’s as arrogant as commies saying: “well that wasn’t real communism! I can do better!”
Well, math has already been deemed racist, may as well call it satanic too. Logic and reason? What’s that?
When someone denies self evident biological reality, pretends unironically that they are something that they're not, twists the use of language to justify their delusions, and expects/demands that others placate and participate in his denial of reality, I would say that's a pretty good indicator of insanity.
But the LGBTQ+ crowd is not keeping their evil secret. That's the problem.