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JollyRancherHard 0 points ago +1 / -1

There would be no way to cover up such an operation, particularly in the hindsight after something happened.

I don't think you have a sense of how big a construction project is needed for pre-demolition in the world trade center. It would be the biggest ever done

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JollyRancherHard 4 points ago +7 / -3

This is old news repackaged. This number was from a lawsuit that lost.

17,000 ballot IMAGES were said to be missing. They had the actual ballots. They were not invalid votes. They are trying to get people's hopes up.

Also this note was added on Twitter

The Georgia legislature is out of session until May. No public meetings of any kind are scheduled after December 15 2023 until late May.

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JollyRancherHard 1 point ago +1 / -0

I agree.

As the plane breaks apart, you have smaller pieces of the plane, but they are still moving at several hundred miles and hour until something slows them down...... it's like a blast from a massive shotgun

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JollyRancherHard 1 point ago +1 / -0

Why do you think it's fake? Kash Patel has been taking about this.

It's the same binder described here https://abcnews.go.com/US/amid-classified-documents-probe-trumps-records-representative-sues/story?id=98046975

One of former President Donald Trump's official representatives to the National Archives -- the agency that sparked the Justice Department's probe of Trump's handling of classified documents -- has now sued the Justice Department and the National Archives, demanding access to documents that the government has said may themselves contain classified information. At the heart of the lawsuit, filed Tuesday by pro-Trump journalist John Solomon, is what Solomon describes in court records as "a binder of documents" -- "about 10 inches thick" -- that come from the FBI's past probe of Russian interference in the 2016 election.

Solomon once asserted that the documents would offer "big revelations" about the probe, which he's called "one of the dirtiest political tricks in American history." .... Solomon and another of Trump's representatives to the National Archives, former Trump administration official Kash Patel, have suggested that politics were at play. But in private emails with Solomon and Patel, which Solomon filed in court to support his lawsuit, National Archives general counsel Gary Stern insisted otherwise.

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JollyRancherHard -1 points ago +1 / -2

Demolitions are super loud and leave a ton of evidence.

Demolitions involve months of prep and pre weakening the structure.

To get a linear charge to cut steel, they cut into the columns and insert the charge into the cut. You need to direct all the force of the high explosive into the steel or you're just wasting your time. I was miles away from a demolition once and I heard it. It was in NJ and I was in Brooklyn. Demolition charges would have been heard throughout the area..... there's probably a half million people who would have been in the area.

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JollyRancherHard -1 points ago +1 / -2

Did you watch the gif play?

Did you see how the structures on the roof collapsed first straight into the building?

Because if you miss that you're going to be off on this

as to hide the simplicity of the conservation of energy argument

Because. A. You won't see the full collapse process And thus B. The timing will be completely off

C. Free fall does not describe the full collapse sequence. It describes a portion of the end of the collapse sequence for about 2 and 1/2 seconds

The left side of the roof seems to collapse about 4 seconds before the rest of the building itself collapses.

To simplify this if you have a 50-story building. And the support structure is on floors 5 through 10 are completely destroyed. Floors 30 to 50 are just simply going straight down. As you noted, potential energy becoming kinetic energy at that point.

Here's how an engineer described what I'm trying to say about the roof. https://www.canadianconsultingengineer.com/features/the-collapse-of-wt-7/

At about 5:20 p.m., the collapse sequence began. First, the east and west penthouses disappeared from view, followed by progressive collapse, apparently on a lower floor. Videotapes show the upper 30 to 35 stories appearing to descend intact, indicating the collapse was initiated on a lower floor. Just before the collapse, a crack or “kink” or fault line developed along the north wall in the vicinity of the east penthouse located over transfer trusses 1 and 2 on the east side.

And kudos to making a scientific argument on this topic. It's refreshing.

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JollyRancherHard -1 points ago +2 / -3

Have you observed demolitions?

They're super loud.

Because you can't have demolition charges that are powerful enough to cut steel and be quiet. https://youtu.be/79sJ1bMR6VQ?si=2_2aNSp1_ZTs2OGz

Also to prep a building for demolition they have to cut into the steel girders to insert the linear charges that cause the demolition. If you don't do this, you're not directing the force of the explosion to cut through steel. It would take the path of least resistance and you're building wouldn't go down. That is very loud, dirty and smelly work. The fumes from the acetylene torches you would use would linger in an enclosed building

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JollyRancherHard 2 points ago +2 / -0

Congress passes laws. Executive oversees their execution.

Lots of laws are binding on the president

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JollyRancherHard 2 points ago +2 / -0

I think the key factor is momentum. The weight of the plane and the speed of the plane.

I don't think my statement needs revising. The momentum will be on the plane's side. What's the point you are making.

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JollyRancherHard -1 points ago +2 / -3

I have. That's happening at the very end of the collapse sequence

I remember when Small Change came out I found it very persuasive. Especially on WTC 7, but a friend and I started discussing it and we found it was highly manipulative.

When you see the VIDEO EVIDENCE of WTC 7, there's a couple of things to note.

We don't see the bottom half of the building. This is where the collapse is believed to have started. The bottom half of building is blocked by other fairly tall buildings in NYC

The second thing a lot of sites don't show you the full collapse sequence, just the end. When you look at the full collapse sequence, you see all sorts things happening on one side of the building, then on the roof and THEN the building fully goes down.

As for the free fall.

Imagine two 12 foot ladders next to each other a few feet part.

Now imagine you stack them up 10 of these on top of each other. So you have 120 feet of ladders side by side

These wouldn't be able to stand up by themselves.

Now imagine for every 10 feet the two sides are connected to each other So one stack of ladders next to another with 12 connections running between them. Now you have a structure that can stand because these connections form a lateral brace where each ladder stack supports the other.

Now imagine there's structural failure towards the bottom of the ladders. A failure that starts ripping out the bracing from the bottom to the top. Once all those lateral supports are gone, the ladders are going to go down.

This is similar to what happened in WTC 7. It was built with a tube in tube structure.

You can see that here. It's the one that looks like a box with a box. it's described here as a core tube is surrounded by an exterior tube that interact horizontally. https://theconstructor.org/architecture/tube-structural-system-types-features/560166/

So you have a inner box and outer box, but each box needs supports from the other.

So how's that affect my ladders. When basically imagine you can only see the outer ladder. The free fall collapse occurs after the inside ladder has fallen and all the supports are gone. And the video is only looking at the top of the ladders.

So where's my evidence for this? Does my metaphor stand up?

Here's a gif of the full collapse sequence. Is there evidence of some sort of interior collapse.

YES. Look at the roof. Something on the left side of the roof collapses INTO the building. Notice all the windows that start to break on the left. Then on the right. https://i.gifer.com/MoI3.gif

The second thing to note is WTC had like 50 floors. It was over 700 feet high. We don't see all 50 floors here. Unlike 1 or 2 we don't see the point of collapse. It's blocked by other buildings.

Also fact about WTC? Hours before it collapsed the NY Fire Department cleared a collapse zone around it. Because they started seeing creaking metal and noticed earlier in the day, one of the corners of building started to bulge.....this is a sign of structural failure.

Thanks for waiting.

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JollyRancherHard 2 points ago +2 / -0

There is no way to be swallow completely inside the building. At least half of it have to be exploded outside with debris all around.

What are you basing this on? I mean how often have you seen a plane hit a building?

I think the key factor momentum. The weight of the plane and the speed of the plane.

Think of a car hitting a chain link fence. At 10 mph, the care won't go through the fence. Maybe not at 40 mph. But what about 100mph? There's a point where the fence won't stand a chance and the car will just bust though

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JollyRancherHard 3 points ago +3 / -0

it definitely reads to me that voices were added afterwards, but that's just a hunch.

It does seem to roughly correspond with this angle.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7YLm3pkAiJQ

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JollyRancherHard 2 points ago +2 / -0

supposedly he uploaded it to youtube, but accidentally left it private and didn't realize that for years.....I just read that somewhere....there is other footage from roughly that angle.

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