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Rothschild dies in house fire 🔥 (abc7.com)

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Diddy, Turkish Bathhouse.. If you know, you know. (www.dailymail.co.uk)

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Inside the seedy bathhouse that Diddy visited 'three times a week'

In the entrance of the Turkish & Russian Bath on East 10th Street hangs a photograph of one very well-known face. Staff say Diddy frequented the bathhouse, visiting multiple times a week.

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Know Your Enemy (media.greatawakening.win)

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Tommy Robinson followers

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Taken from Reddit, here for posterity and for anyone willing to dig further.

"Tommy Robinson is backed and funded by the Middle East Forum. The MEF backs organisations like EDL around the world to push their racist agenda.

Daniel Pipes is the President of Middle East Forum that was first established within the Foreign Policy Research Institute.

The FPRI was founded by Robert Strausz-Hupé, a Jewish immigrant who had a young Henry Kissinger as one of his original luminaries.

Daniel Pipes, a Zionist, is obviously not a fan of Muslims worldwide but once praised Mustafa Kemal Atatürk who was a Donmeh. The Donmeh are Sabbateans. Connect the dots. This rabbit hole goes deep.

Who are the Sabbateans. Maybe start here: https://rumble.com/v4rho8w-the-sabbatean-frankist-illuminati-history-freemasons.html"

"Thank you, someone finally gets it! And the illuminati was created by Adam Weishaupt, a Jesuit.

The jesuits were behind things like the gunpowder plot. The current Pope is the first jesuit pope.

It's a network that has infiltrated multiple governments worldwide. It is all By design.

Albert Pike, freemason, huge part in starting American Civil War, seems to write about what is happening today in our countries all while they complete their global goal starting in Israel"

"Didn't Jacob Frank have a hand in creating the illuminati too along with getting financial backing from the Rothschilds?"

"Not heard that name but apparently so.

Building the Titanic was funded by JP Morgan and the Rothchilds which sunk with the 3 major bankers who opposed the federal reserve system, so they likely took them out for global financial control.

Rothchilds/UK created Israel and serve the Illuminati since the 'New world order pledged to jews' clearly with the condition they'll be the scapegoat to carry out the bigger plot of probably getting rid of both Islam and Judaism, as per the letter I linked in my last comment"

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A reminder for the paid agitators...

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You are being watched.

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UK Riots

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Anyone out rioting in the streets, destroying their own neighbourhoods and battling police. You are not patriots, you are a disgrace to your own countrymen.

And if you follow Tommy Robinson, aka Stephen Yakface, you're in for a rude awakening, not just a great one.

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DNC E-mails wiped from WikiLeaks?

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As part of the plea deal, leaked DNC materials have been scrubbed.

Did anyone archive offline?

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Israel's Great Awakening

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We are saving Israel for last. The Great Awakening took place worldwide, but Israel was saved for last for a very specific reason.

The brainwashing goes deep, and many Israelis are now awakening to the idea that their countrymen have been perpetrating a hostage/genocide situation for decades now. Check out this Israeli sharing his awakening.

https://files.catbox.moe/yl1oit.mp4

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What is a MAP? (media.greatawakening.win) 🐴 kek 💩

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Obama's Gay Sex Fantasy Confession Letter (www.dailymail.co.uk)

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Barack Obama's gay sex fantasy confession is revealed in letter to ex

Former President Barack Obama's gay sex fantasy was revealed in a newly obtained 1982 letter to his ex girlfriend, acquired by The New York Post.

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Tim Ballard is a Knights Templar

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He's with the Knights Templar and on the Board of Directors for Afghanistan World Foundation (with Henry Kissinger and Diane Feinstein).

http://templartimes.smotj.org/20150715_news.htm https://afghanistanworldfoundation.org/awf-board/

Controlled opposition? Did we drop the ball on this one or could he be an insider?

Update: Here's a good dig from anonfamous

https://anonfamous.substack.com/p/the-tim-ballard-rabbit-hole

The connections run deep.

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Quiz: In which recent speech did President Trump refer to a "Horror Show"?

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What was the quote in context?

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Jimmy Saville 2.0? "OK Groomer!" (www.dailymail.co.uk)

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Phillip Schofield breaks his silence

Phillip Schofield, 61, (pictured) broke his silence tonight, saying he's 'broken and ashamed' but not a groomer in his first interview since admitting an affair.

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Royal Family tormented by 170 stalkers (www.mirror.co.uk)

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Ukraine Q Post

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 29 (Day 19: Jury Deliberations 5)

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[Extra details in comments c/o Adam Klasfeld]

Previous Updates

1431GMT

Jury deliberating under threat of continuing into New Years Eve & Day due to Omicron (but no public call-in line), the lawyers are assembled, Ghislaine Maxwell is at defense table.

Ghislaine Maxwell is in a maroon sweater. Judge Nathan is still not on the bench, but word is, There is a jury note. They resumed at 9am (1400GMT), so a note by 9:33am (1433GMT) is relatively early. For them. Comparatively.

Judge Nathan: I have a note. Can we please have the transcripts for Shawn, Cimberly Espinosa, then a name I can't read. Then Amanda Young, then Jason Richards. Also, can we have clarification about our schedules? 12/31? 1/1? There's a conflict I'll do at sidebar

[Judge Nathan goes off-the-record at sidebar. Meanwhile, clearly the jurors picked up on Judge Nathan's unstated threat yesterday about "all week" including by implication New Years Eve - and maybe New Years Day. The noted added, So we can plan... While the lawyers are at sidebar whispering with Judge Nathan, Ghislaine Maxwell is alone at the defense table, rummaging through her green plastic accordion file. The two Marshals are watching her closely]

Judge Nathan returns: Beyond the private matter, we still can't read the name of the fifth person they want the testimony of. So I'll send them a note asking. I'll step down to do that.

All rise!

1457GMT

Judge Nathan is back and asks the lawyers how to respond on scheduling, mentioning 1/2 (the Sunday) too.

Defense wants them to have the weekend off. Judge Nathan, not so much. Only if "unmovable commitments."

Judge Nathan: Given my concern about Omicron, quarantine for 10 days, we need to proceed every day.

AUSA: We agree, every day absent a hardship.

Judge Nathan: So I'm going to tell them, Yes, 12/31, 1/1 and 1/2 unless you reach a verdict. Unless unmovable conflict.

Another note: "We are requesting the testimony of the expert witness on memory." [Elizabeth Loftus, of Harvey Weinstein (and other) fame]

Judge Nathan: This is Court Exhibit 19.

[Inner City Press asked these be put on PACER - they have not been]

There's a dispute about redacting part of the testimony of Cimberly Espinosa.

Judge Nathan: She said, Seems like they started dating other people, Ghislaine just moved on. Then there was an objection. Let's be sure we send the right one back.

1509GMT

Judge Nathan: Anything else for now?

Both: No.

All rise!

[Note: I think this is an important issue: courts are supposed to be transparent to the public, and during this trial a person covering it was not allowed into the courthouse, with Omicron cited. So there should be a call-in line. Immediately. Today. Why isn't there?]

1609GMT

In the lull, from the Miami Herald: Liz Stein "was denied entry and told by a U.S. Marshal that no seats had been set aside in the court for victims. The office of U.S. District Judge Alison Nathan, who is presiding over the trial, declined to comment"

Inner City Press did see some of the back-and-forth in 318 [just as it earlier saw Leah Saffian move into the well of the courtroom with her phone] - but 1 question here is the US Attorney's Office using approval by Epstein Fund as proxy for being a victim.

It seems the position of SDNY - the court, not the prosecutors - is that all victims can get a seat in the courtroom. But who determines who the victims are? Some of these decisions, Judge Nathan seems to be passing the buck on. Who decided to redact flight logs?

How does Leah Saffian have her phone in the courtroom? She has not filed a "notice of appearance" in US v. Maxwell, & has no other case in SDNY. But has phone, shows it to Kevin &, some say, Ghislaine. Is there some Judge Nathan order?

There is a way to apply to bring electronic devices in - and it is supposed to be in the public docket. (See one such request in this US v. Maxwell case: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHyiGisXEAAGk3U?format=jpg ). But in the docket, no mention of Leah Saffian - no notice of appearance, no pro hac vice, nothing.

It seems that to be part of the defense team, Leah Saffian would have to file a notice of appearance and be listed in the docket. But she is not. Maybe they asked Judge Nathan to sign an "electronic devices" order. But if so, it should be in the docket. It is not.

[Reply from beyondreasdoubt: Incorrect. An attorney can apply and get an electronic services pass. So if for example, I were sitting in the courtroom with you right now, I would have my phone. You’re good, but need to realize you don’t necessarily know the ins and outs and sometimes mislead your followers.

Reply to beyondreasdoubt: Thanks. Not only is Leah Saffian not listed as one of Maxwell's 5 lawyers in this case - she does not appear as an attorney in any SDNY case. So just to be clear, are you saying that any lawyer, from any state, can bring a phone into the SDNY courthouse? Thanks.]

Further on Leah Saffian - & maybe she'll find some defenders or obfuscators for this, too - without being listed as one of Maxwell's 5 lawyers in this case, she went into "the well" and sat at defense table. Others say they saw her sharing her phone with Maxwell.

Leah Saffian, having done the search, is not listed as admitted to the bar in New York. Nor has an pro hac vice been filed. Yet there she is, in the well of Courtroom 318, at the defense talk with her phone, talking with Ghislaine. Totally normal?

Since Leah Saffian does not show up as a New York attorney, and is not admitted pro hac vice in this or any other SDNY case, how does she get the electronic service pass? Or is there a signed order, & if so, given restrictions on the overflow rooms, where is it?

I'm just saying, given the restrictions in this case - no use of electronics by journalists or public in Courtroom 318, no public call-in line - the unexplained Saffian phone, at the defense table, for Maxwell is a question.

I asked officials here if it is permissible to share a smart phone with an incarcerated defendant and was told, No. Also that she should not have been in the well of the court (she was, at the defense table) while others were admonished & nearly more for the same.

Leah Saffian is not listed as one of Maxwell's 5 lawyers in this case. And I have seen CJA defense lawyers admonished in Mag Court for sharing phone with their clients. But again, Saffian is not Maxwell's lawyer here.

1912GMT

Bobbi Sternheim is at the defense table, and there's word that's another jury note.

Judge Nathan assumes the bench and says... "May we please have the Larry Visoski testimony."

There's laughter in the courtroom.

Judge Nathan: It's court exhibit 20.

[Leaves bench.]

[I think because, with the pressure to reach a verdict, it is an almost comical let-down to have the jury note after some hours be only for 1 more witness' testimony. I'm not saying it was uproarious laughter. It functioned like a groan, but came out like laughter]

2153GMT

ALERT: There is a verdict, soon to be read out.

"A verdict has been reached in US vs. Maxwell, 20-cr-330 (AJN)... Please be advised that a verdict has been reached in the above matter. The verdict will be announced in open court shortly."

Judge Nathan: I am going to read the verdict after the jury comes in. Anyone in the courtroom who makes noise will be removed. Bring in the jury.

Verdict Sheet here: https://t.co/6QwMZH4byO

Jury enters

[In the front row of Courtroom 318: Leah Saffian, Kevin Maxwell, the two sisters, Isabelle and Christine]

Judge Nathan: Have your reached your verdict?

Foreperson: We have.

Judge Nathan (opens envelope) -

Count 1: GUILTY.

Count 2: Not Guilty.

Count 3: Guilty.

Count 4: Guilty.

Count 5: Guilty.

Count 6: Guilty.

Ghislaine Maxwell GUILTY of 5 of 6 counts

[For those asking, this is the ONLY count Maxwell was found not guilty on: "COUNT TWO: Enticement of an Individual Under the Age of 17 (Jane only) to Travel with Intent to Engage in Illegal Sexual Activity." https://t.co/6QwMZH4byO ]

Bobbi Sternheim: We want an order to get Ms. Maxwell the booster.

Judge Nathan: It is available at MDC. Sentencing date will be chosen later after the parties confer.

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 28 (Day 18: Jury Deliberations 4)

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1419GMT

Another day of jury deliberations begin, with Maxwell's two sisters in the front row of Courtroom 318 and the prosecutors nowhere to be seen.

Now in the case docket, Maxwell's lawyers' letter to Judge Nathan asking for "additional instructions to correct apparent errors in the jury's understanding of Counts Two and Four."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHs3qRTXEAM0GwQ.jpg

So far, no US Attorney's Office response in the docket.

1447GMT

Lawyers are assembling. Bobbi Sternheim, prosecutors, Leah Saffian in front row. But still no Maxwell, nor Judge Nathan. Both should be coming. Might Judge Nathan set US a deadline to reply on instruction-Gate? Or have they already, undocketed?

Judge Nathan: I got the defense's letter this morning. I haven't heard from the government.

Maxwell is at the defense table: black sweater, black mask.

Assistant US Attorney asks that courtroom door be closed, says "Just being cautious."

AUSA: There is no reason to be speculating about what the jury is thinking. Sending back the [proposed] additional instruction would just compound the problem.

Judge Nathan: The defense's proposal speaks about Count 2 which wasn't asked about.

Judge Nathan: I want to make more of a record of extending the deliberations by an hour. I want to make clear: I am doing this because of the expansion of Omicron.

[Inner City Press: Then why still no public call-in line? And what of the 3 day DC trip?]

Judge Nathan says she will speak later today about deliberations going forward. Speed up or pause, due to Omicron?

Defense speaks, not (yet) on that, but to make a further record (for appeal) about their proposed additional instruction to the jury.

Judge Nathan: I'm not going to give them an incorrect instruction.

1501GMT

Judge goes on to refer again to Omicron. Unclear if she may mean suspending deliberations (?!?) or having them double down / speed up until a decision is reached. She's left the courtroom.

2146GMT

The lawyers are assembling, it's said there is a note from the jury.

Judge Nathan: The jury says, We are making progress and would like to end today at 5 pm and resume tomorrow at 9 am. Does anyone want to say anything? I have a view.

Defense: Let them go.

AUSA: We defer to the court.

Judge Nathan: I'll tell, deliberate the weekend

[Note: Judge Nathan canceled the trial for three days to go to DC, told jurors they'd have this Thursday and Friday off. Now she's saying deliberated Dec 31 and Jan 1, if no verdict. Appealable?]

Defense: Why tell them the weekend? Just the week.

Judge Nathan: I will say "everyday this week."

[Apparently she'll only mention the weekend when it gets closer.]

Defense: Thank you.

Judge Nathan: I'll ask Ms. Williams to bring them out.

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Time's Up YouTube #PickASide (youtu.be)

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 27 (Day 16: Jury Deliberations 3)

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Title Correction: This is Day 17

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[Extra details in comments c/o Adam Klasfeld]

Previous Updates

1421GMT

Jury is supposed to resume deliberating today after a 4-day hiatus. So far, Courtroom 318 is empty.

1435GMT*

Still nothing in Courtroom 318. In the docket of the case, nothing since Dec 21, 2021. But digging, there is this, another redacted letter urging that Maxwell be freed, "I have never witnessed anything close to inappropriate with Ghislaine": https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHnw5d9WYAUc1CT?format=jpg

1515GMT

still nothing in Courtroom 318. Nothing docketed since Dec 21, 2021. But digging, there is yet another redacted letter urging that Maxwell be freed, saying she shows "consideration of others, no matter if they are a king or a street cleaner": https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHn6V1hXsAoPuRR?format=jpg

1523GMT

Defense lawyers and prosecutors are assembling in Courtroom 318. Something is afoot, if only an announcement by Judge Nathan.

1528GMT

Ghislaine Maxwell is brought out of the holding cell.

Now Judge Nathan says, I have a note, we need highlighters and office supplies, Post-It notes and a white board - and a definition of enticement.

Assistant US Attorney: On page 21 of your instruction, you defined enticement in its ordinary, every-day meaning. That's what they should be told.

Judge Nathan stares into her computer.

Maxwell's lawyer Christian Everdell: There are cases defining enticement, I don't have then at hand --

Judge Nathan: I have one: US v. Almonte. Is that what you have in mind, Mr. Everdell?

Everdell: I think we cited a case in our Rule 29 argument, on causation too

Judge Nathan: In response, I will write, Dear Jury, we are gathering supplies. On enticement, see the jury charge

Sternheim: Ms. Maxwell has been given an N-95 mask but she is being told to only wear it in the courtroom.

Judge Nathan: The rule is in the courtHOUSE

Judge Nathan: I will speak to the District Executive's office.

All rise!

Ghislaine Maxwell is led out of the courtroom by the two U.S. Marshals.

1607GMT

Now the jury has made another request, for the testimony of [Palm Beach Police Officer] Gregory Parkinson, about the search. Inner City Press uploaded video here: https://youtu.be/oZOEoO8eBKw

1955GMT

After more than 3 hours of radio silence from the Maxwell jury, her lawyer Bobbi Sternheim has returned to the defense table; the prosecutors, too. Word is, there is a jury note.

And now Ghislaine Maxwell is out of the holding cell, with two U.S. Marshals, and sits at defense table.

Judge Nathan: The jury writes, Can we please have the testimony of David Rogers? [One of 2 Epstein pilots to testify at the trial.]

Judge Nathan: I don't know what time the jury wishes to deliberate to this evening. I assume we'll get a note. We'll wait for that. If they're not done today, I'll consider extending deliberations into tomorrow for at least some period of time.

Maxwell's lawyer Bobbi Sternheim: I think this jury has a mind of its own, they declined to deliberate last Thursday.

Judge Nathan: Think about indication of at least some extension of hours tomorrow if they have not completed the task.

[Note: The idea seems to be, if the jury doesn't decide today, Judge Nathan might tell or encourage them to stay past 5 pm tomorrow. A cynic might say, In a hurry to get to the 2d Circuit? Different judges have different methods. Also in the arsenal: Allen Charge]

2130GMT

Judge Nathan is back, with a jury note, and lets / tells counsel to take a photo of it. (Photos banned in Federal courts?)

[Note: It's a convoluted note involving Jane, if if the jury can, if it makes certain findings, still render a guilty verdict.]

Ghislaine Maxwell is back at the defense table; lawyers at both sides studying their photo(s) of the jury note.

Judge Nathan: The jurors also say they want to end today at 5 pm. We'll take that up after we address responding to this note.

Prosecutors ask for "one more moment" before arguments on how to respond to the "Jane note."

Assistant US Attorney: Our proposal would be to refer the jurors to the instructions. We find the question confusing.

Defense lawyer Everdell: We want the answer to be No

Everdell: The jurors are clearly separating in their minds the flight to, versus from, New Mexico. There is no motivating purpose to the return trip. It was not for the purpose of engaging in sexual activity, the return flight. The flight there, maybe

AUSA: It's not clear what flight they are talking about.

Everdell: The only evidence in the record we have is from the flight log. [It seems that has been left heavily redacted]

Judge Nathan: I'm inclined to reply, I can't response other then point to the count in the indictment and instruction.

Everdell: Page 28, instruction 21.

[Jury Charge here: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165198-finaljurychargeicp ]

Judge Nathan: Is it your contention that to convict on this count the jury would have to find that the defendant was involved in this aspect of this flight. It's difficult to parse this question.

Judge Nathan: I don't know how much weight to put on that comma placement [in the jury question]. I can't answer this ambiguous question "No." The only solution here is to direct them to the full instruction on page 28.

Maxwell's lawyer Bobbi Sternheim: Your Honor needs to make clear to their juror what state comes after the word "New" - they need to find a violation of New York law.

Judge Nathan: I do not know what this question means. So I will just direct them back to the count.

Judge Nathan: I am referring them to the instruction.

Everdell: We reiterate our prior objection.

Judge Nathan: I'll sent the response with the CSO [Court Security Officer]. Now, on extending the time?

AUSA: You should tell them to expect an extended day tomorrow.

Defense: We think urging the jurors to stay late sends them a message that they need to hurry up and decide.

AUSA: It is within the Court's discretion.

Judge Nathan: I'll tell them if deliberation is not complete tomorrow, I'd like them to stay at least to 6pm (2300GMT)

Judge Nathan: I'll tell them they could stay later than 6 pm... unless they indicate to Ms. Williams that it's a hardship.

Defense: Any suggestion that they should complete their decision --

Judge Nathan: I used this language last week.

Judge Nathan: I clearly have discretion to set the default schedule. And I do it over your objection.

Defense: We ask you not include that phrase.

Judge Nathan: I'll use the same language I used last week. I'll add, Take all the time you need. Bring in the jury.

Jury enters

Jury is instructed by Judge Nathan

Jury leaves

Judge asks the lawyers, Anything further for today?

Both: No.

Court adjourned

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 22 (Day 16: Jury Deliberations 2)

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1403GMT

We're embarking on the second full day of deliberations, after the roughly 45 minutes of huddling the jury undertook following Ghislaine Maxwell summations. (Depending on how you're counting, it's the second full day of deliberations or the third day, period.)

Scheduling notice:

Court was originally scheduled to be dark for the rest of the week after today, but Judge Nathan invited jurors yesterday to sit Thursday if they so choose.

We'll learn soon (a) if they'll need it and (b) if they opt to do it.

"What is taking so long?"

Experiment: Get 12 men and women from various ages, backgrounds and walks of life in a room and find agreement on one thing.

Now, try that with six unfamiliar federal statutes, broken down into 80 pages of instructions, and a mountainous trial record.

2058GMT

Remember when jurors wanted transcripts of every Ghislaine Maxwell accuser BUT “Kate”? Now, they want the testimony of “Kate” and Juan [Alessi, presumably].

They also want “Jane’s” transcript again—this time, in a three-ring binder.

As to Judge Nathan’s invitation that they could deliberate tomorrow, Ghislaine Maxwell jurors replied in a note: “No, thank you.”

As for those seeking a tea-leaf read on this one, the most that can seemingly be divined here is: They’re studious.

Also, with the caveat that we do not know the context of the gesture:

Maxwell’s attorneys Laura Menninger and Bobbi Sternheim could be seen giving each other a high-five in court—before the brief conference to discuss plans for Thursday. This gesture fell right before it became increasingly clear deliberations would stretch into Week Two, after the holidays.

It’s official: Jury deliberations will resume on Monday in the trial of Ghislaine Maxwell, after the holiday break.

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 21 (Day 15: Jury Deliberations 1)

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1510GMT

Judge Nathan took to the bench at 10:10 am and said, I've gotten a note. The jury wants the transcripts of the testimony of Jane, Annie and Carolyn. It will be assembled and sent to them via the Court Security Officer, who's been sworn in for this function.

Courtroom is empty again; three long transcripts going back to jury. For now, Inner City Press has objection and uploaded the (partially redacted) US Attorney's Office slides from yesterday's closing argument: https://t.co/1nMkYYL5C1

With the jury asking for the entire testimony of three of the four survivor witnesses, could be a long day.

As of 11 am, current status in Courtroom 318: empty, but sitting at defense table are Maxwell's official lawyer Bobbi Sternheim and unofficial / undocketed lawyer or photo-fixer Leah Saffian.

The jury went to their deliberation room for an hour yesterday, but I'm not sure that should really be called deliberation. Today, three hours so far, and clearly deliberating - they're request the testimony of three witnesses.

1755GMT

Still no prosecutors at their table, now 2 (or 3, counting Saffian) Maxwell counsel at theirs, no more notes from jury. In the lull, Inner City Press uploaded the redacted defense closing sides initially withheld: https://t.co/fGHqOi4Zwt

1822GMT

They have brought Ghislaine Maxwell out to the defense table. The other, listed counsel scatter and Gislaine is talking one on one with Leah Saffian. No In-N-Out Burger photo can be taken in the courtroom. But something is afoot. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHJr-9YXwAUfJfD?format=jpg

Just to tamp down expectation from this "afoot-ness" --Maxwell has been taken back in the holding cell. The burst of action, sources neither prosecution or defense say, was to agree on redactions on the testimony to be given to the jury (sidebars out, etc.)

1951GMT

Courtroom 318 is populating again; word is, there is a jury note. Ghislaine Maxwell has been brought out again. Judge Nathan: I have a note. "We would like the FBI deposition 3505-005 referred to by the defense."

AUSA: That is not in evidence.

Maxwell's lawyer: There is impeachment [of Carolyn] in that document, although we acknowledge it is not in evidence. So we proposed not saying, It is not in evidence.

Judge Nathan: How about, All admitted exhibits are before you?

AUSA: Fine.

Maxwell's lawyer: Why not say, You have the admitted evidence about 3505-005. Just don't say it is not in evidence.

Judge Nathan: They are asking for the document, I presume because they have the testimony about it. [Pauses to write something out by hand]

Judge Nathan: It is not an exhibit, the testimony about it, you have. I'll just send in a note for efficiency. I'll say: "3505-005 is not an admitted exhibit but the testimony about it," you have.

Agreed. All rise!

2023GMT

Maxwell's lawyers wanted Judge Nathan to come back, and she has. Maxwell's lawyer wants a copy of the note.

Judge Nathan: The foreperson has signed the note. So we have to redact it. So I will just read it to you again.

Judge Nathan: Counsel are aware of the identity of the jurors. So I'll just redact it as to the public.

All rise!

2106GMT

Judge Nathan: I have received a note. The jurors say they want to end today at 5pm (2200GMT), deliberate tomorrow from 9 to 4:30 (1400 to 2130) & have lunch at noon. [And if not decision by the end of Dec 22?]

Judge Nathan: It is possible for them to deliberate on Thursday.

Maxwell's lawyer Sternheim: Will you offer then Thursday, so they can make arrangement?

Judge Nathan: We could tell them that.

[If memory serves, the defense did not want the deliberations to take place under the deadline of Christmas. Now, they seem to like it]

2130GMT

Jury has another note / question: Can we consider Annie's testimony conspiracy to commit a crime in Counts 1 and 3?

AUSA: Say yes.

Maxwell's lawyer: If someone asks, can I drive, you could answer, Yes but within the speed limit.

Judge Nathan: I'm going to answer, Yes you may. Please been back at 4:55 (2155GMT) so we can let the jurors go at 5 pm (2200GMT).

here is a photo - screenshot - of the Count 1 and 3 the jury asked about, if they can use Annie's testimony to confirm under these counts: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHKc4jtXIAI8zM5?format=png

2203GMT

Jury enters

Judge Nathan: The timing tomorrow is fine, give Ms. Williams your lunch order on the way out. If you have not completed your deliberations it's possible for you to continue your deliberation on Dec 23. And, wear your masks except eating or drinking

Jury leaves

Judge Nathan: So did you finally finish agreeing on the redactions to the transcript?

AUSA: Yes.

Judge Nathan: It was frustrating to have them wait for 3 hours. Adjourned.

Court adjourned

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 20 (Day 14: Closing Arguments)

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1343GMT

Day of closing arguments begins, after AUSA Maurene Comey Sunday afternoon said public and press should not see the slides in real time.

Judge Nathan asks if the exhibits that have been withheld throughout the trial have at least been put in the public docket this morning. No - only on DOJ's USAfx password protected site. And no defense exhibits in sight.

Amid secrecy, lunch time for jurors is being discussed.

Judge Nathan: The government will go straight through "then an early lunch." The defense, then rebuttal, charge and deliberations possibly beginning today. A comfort break somewhere in there.

Judge Nathan: Stay a few minutes away, so Ms. Williams can reach you, if the jury has notes or a verdict.

Note: Inner City Press' immediately filing opposition to withholding of slides and all defense exhibit still not docketed. It's here: documentcloud.org/documents/2116… Judge Nathan: Anything else? The box is turned.

[That is, the speaker's box, so that the public can't see. Note: no problem without confidentiality / privacy of victims / survivors. But they are withholding ALL slides and demonstratives, and all defense exhibits]

[And note: SDNY Judge Rakoff, when Inner City Press requested in US v. Weigand (Eaze / Wirecard case), ordered that all exhibits, US and defense, be put on a public website, not just USAfx.]

While awaiting entry of jury & US argument, noting that yesterday after Inner City Press wrote to Judge Nathan, AUSA Comey and 2 on defense, suddenly exhibits from much earlier in the case were put onto USAfx, redacted, including Virginia Roberts' school records

There are also Epstein Victims Compensation Fund general releases, one for Annie Farmer and another with name redacted. And a long video Inner City Press is still belatedly downloading. Hide the ball until the last day, then put it up in redacted form

1408GMT

Jury enters

All rise!

[Ghislaine Maxwell is in a beige sweater today, at defense table with Bobbi Sternheim. In front row of gallery, Kevin Maxwell and, yes, Leah Saffian]

Judge Nathan: We'll break early for lunch, then we'll come back and hear Ms. Menninger. Then another break. Rebuttal by the government & instructions from me. Ms Moe?

AUSA Moe: Ghislaine Maxwell was dangerous. She targeted a girl whose father had just died [Jane]

AUSA Moe: Maxwell ran the same playbook again and again. She groomed them. She caused deep and lasting harm to young girls. It is time to hold her accountable. [Maxwell flipping through papers, flipping hair].

AUSA Moe: You've heard from law enforcement officers

AUSA Moe: You've seen documents: phone messages, and a little black book with victims' names. This summation is our opportunity to explain who all this evidence fits together. Maxwell is guilty. Today I'm going to talk to you about 8 different reasons she's guilty

AUSA Moe: First, Maxwell and Epstein were partners. They were in a romantic relationship. Maxwell wrote this document. [Not show to public or press.]

AUSA Moe (reading from slide not shown to press or public) "A couple for 11 years... great partners... rarely apart... best of friends." Does that sound like a personal assistant? No.

AUSA Moe: When you're with someone for 11 years you know what they like. Epstein liked young girls. Epstein could not have done this alone. A single middle aged man inviting a girl to a ranch is creepy. That set of "alarm balls."

AUSA Moe: Maxwell as key - you saw photos how close they were. Let's look at those. [Not shown to press or public]

AUSA Moe: You are looking at Maxwell and Epstein swimming naked in a pool. [Not shown during closing - and otherwise redacted or withheld] Here she is massaging Epstein's feet with her breasts.

AUSA Moe: Look at this exhibit, GMax about lotions. [Not shown to press or public]. Here's Juan Alessi's testimony about washing off dildos and returning them to a basket in Maxwell's bathroom.

AUSA Moe: Let's turn to Annie. She was hoping to go to a good college. Kate, she was alone a lot. She was dazzled by this impressive woman who made her feel special. Jane has been sexually abused by family members; her mother was an alcoholic

AUSA Moe: Maxwell was hanging out with these girls alone. Annie told you when she got to New Mexico, she found herself along with Maxwell and Epstein. They were isolating these girls for a reason. They paid for Jane's voice lessons and tuition.

AUSA Moe: For Annie, it started with Maxwell telling her to rub Epstein's feet. For Jane, it was Maxwell topless by the pool and talking about boyfriends, escalating to sexualized massages on Jeffrey Epstein. Maxwell touched 3 of the 4's breasts [Three of the four survivor / witnesses]. Jane told you; Maxwell did it to Annie too. Annie wanted to get off the massage table. Maxwell touched these girls' bodies. It's not an accident. It happened again and again and again.

AUSA Moe: Jane didn't become Epstein's so-called god-daughter by accident. Maxwell is guilty.

Here's what they did to Jane. This is Jane. [Photo not shown to press or public.] You learned of years of sexual abuse.

AUSA Moe: There are documents. Here's Jane's application to Interlochen [not shown to press or public]. There are flight logs. [Not shown during closing, perpetrators' names redacted along with victims in version belatedly provided]

AUSA Moe: She saw Maxwell topless by the pool. You know that, because now you've seen Maxwell topless by the pool. Jane told you how Epstein walked her to the pool house and he started masturb*ting on her. [Etc - this is in, but flight logs redacted [Once US closing has already begun, the jury charge is finally put into the docket - Inner City Press will review it asap, or other can

AUSA Moe: You saw in Jane's face how hard it was for her to talk about this. She had to touch Epstein's pen*s. There were hands everywhere. There was horrifying group encounters with other women. It wasn't just in Florida, but also in NY but private jet [by private jet, and commercial flights too]

AUSA Moe: There weren't any scholarship boys. No selection criteria beyond being a pretty, young, vulnerable girl. Jane was 14 and 15 and 16. He was use vibrat*ors...

AUSA: Here's the massage room in New York [not being shown to press or public] [Just uploaded 1 hour video of search warrant executed on Jeffrey Epstein residents belatedly made available, onto YouTube

AUSA Moe: Jane told Matt she had a godfather, that she had to do things she hadn't wanted to do it. That there was a woman who made her feel comfortable. Matt told you, "there was a woman in the house who made her feel comfortable." You know that's Maxwell.

AUSA Moe: You heard expert testimony from Doctor Rocchio. She's an expert. She told you, victims are less likely to tell the closer they are to the perpetrator. Maxwell was like a big sister to Jane.

AUSA Moe: Jane named five women who participated in group sex: Emmy, Kelly, Eva, Sophie and Michelle. The defense tried to undermine Jane on Eva and Michelle. But Jane never gave the last name. The black book had another Eva, and three Michelles. It was a sideshow

AUSA Moe: Annie told you how when Epstein touched her on the movie theater, he stopped when Maria was looking. Annie then flew to New Mexico, her mother thought it was about a scholarship.

AUSA Moe: Maxwell started ratcheting things up. Maxwell wanted to show Annie how to rub his feet. You saw the photo of Maxwell massaging Epstein's feet with her breast. This was not part of a mentoring program.

AUSA Moe: Maxwell was trying to normalize sex, because she was a predator. Maxwell insisted on giving Annie a massage, and touched her breasts. It was not therapeutic. This is not on the list of spa treatments anywhere.

AUSA: Mulligan remembered that Annie told him that Maxwell had bought her a pair of cowboy boots, and touched her breasts during the massage. In 2006 Annie told the FBI the same thing.

AUSA Moe: Now let's talk about Carolyn. She was introduced by Virginia Roberts. This is the same girl that Juan Alessi remembered, how at Mar-A-Lago Maxwell told him to pull over and went to talk to her.

AUSA Moe: Carolyn said Virginia told her how to make money, giving a massage to a wealthy man. Then Virginia and Epstein started having sex in front of her. This is the massage room. [Not shown to press or public.] This was not a place for therapeutic massages

AUSA Moe: Here by the master bedroom is a drawing of a young girl pulling down her underwear. Maxwell understood what was happening in that case. This was the beginning of years of sexual abuse. Sometimes Sarah Kellen would call Carolyn.

AUSA Moe: The phone messages corroborate Carolyn's testimony. [Moe sites Government Exhibit 608, which is not among those belatedly uploaded yesterday.]

AUSA Moe: All of the masseuses are female. Who needs this many masseuses? The notes say, Mom, Dad. None of this was legitimate... Here's the employment record at Mar-A-Lago of Sky Roberts, Virginia's dad.

AUSA Moe: Here's an entry, "Melissa, Carolyn's friend." This proves that Maxwell is guilty.

[In the front row of the gallery, both Kevin Maxwell and Isabel Maxwell are leaning over, looking at exhibits that were handed to them - but withheld from press and public]

AUSA Moe: In 2002, Epstein paid Maxwell $5 million... So it's a total of $30.7 million. Ask yourself, what was Maxwell doing for Epstein worth that? Epstein wanted to touch underage girls. Maxwell knew what the money was for.

AUSA Moe: Virginia Roberts was 17 and flying on the jet with Epstein and Maxwell. Virginia brought Carolyn to the Palm Beach house, when Carolyn was 14. It was a pyramid scheme of sex abuse.

AUSA Moe: The defense tried to tell you when Maxwell dated Ted Waitt, she was no longer around Epstein. False - she was still the lady of the house. Look at this manual.

AUSA Moe: There were no boys on Maxwell's list. She slept in a bedroom with a bathroom with lotions, and another bathroom where the dildos were stored. And Epstein paid Maxwell millions of dollars. She knew. She was complicit. She is guilty.

AUSA Moe: Let's talk about the charges, six counts. [Note: CourtListener still does not have the jury charge, which was only docketed on PACER this morning]

[Note - even now during the closing argument, with all slides and demonstrative withheld, searching in PACER for the jury charge, doesn't seem it's there, just a six page cover letter.

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 18 (Day 13: Charging Conference)

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1414GMT

Today it's the Saturday "charging conference" to argue how the jury will be instructed before they deliberate on Maxwell's fate.

Judge Nathan: I have distributed my draft charge. Now we will discuss it.

Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: We say foreign commerce should be excluded. There's no evidence in the record about Ms. Maxwell enticing Virginia Roberts, only of Roberts enticing Carolyn.

AUSA: We're OK with removing foreign commerce from Counts 1-4.

[Note: Ghislaine Maxwell is here, sitting in the corner as ever with two (female) U.S. Marshals behind her, today in gray sweater.]

Judge Nathan: Mr. Everdell, help me find each "foreign commerce."

Everdell: We want it to say that Count 4 relates solely to Jane. With respect to Kate, there was no violation of New York law - she was above the age of consent. And Annie, whatever she may be claiming in New Mexico, there was no violation of law. So only Jane

Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: Annie and Kate are not victims of this conspiracy.

Judge Nathan: That's why there was a different limiting instruction.

Everdell: Traveling from Arizona to New Mexico did not have its object violating New York law.

AUSA: You're conflating the conspiracy and the substantive counts.

Judge Nathan: The [defense] objection is overruled. Page 15 adding "solely" between "relates" and the world "to." That is, "relates SOLELY to" Jane.

Everdell: Page 16, line 2 - also change that.

Judge Nathan: I will.

Everdell: Let's take out the word "minor," it creates a lot of ambiguity.

Judge Nathan: let's say, "individuals under the age of 18."

[Visual update: upon further reflecting, Maxwell's sweater may be green. Her brother in the front row of the gallery takes down his mask, takes swig of bottled water]

[Update: Maxwell's brother, reading from a cell phone, puts his mask back up.]

Everdell: We'd like to omit another "or foreign"

Judge Nathan: Done.

Everdell: We object to the word coerced, we'd like it removed.

[Bobbi Sternheim come from front table back to where Everdell is, next to Maxwell, and whispers in his ear, pointing at Judge Nathan's charge. A copy of a case is handed to AUSA Rohrbach]

Everdell: I can get you a typewritten proposed instruction, like the one given by Judge Rakoff in US v. Miller.

[Pause while Judge Nathan and AUSA Rohrbach and AUSA Maurene Comey read the case they've been handed]

Judge Nathan returns with a Federal Appendix case found by "my crack law clerks." It seems the 2d Circuit, to which Judge Nathan aspires, permits two different charges on "one dominant purpose."

Everdell: Page 24, we want it to say "Ms Maxwell" not "the defendant"

Everdell: We want the word "solely" on line 12.

Judge Nathan: Done. And I'll strike "and foreign" on page 25.

Everdell: There, we also object to the use of the language of the statute - we want a bracket.

Judge Nathan: I spent an inordinate amount of time on this

Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: here it says "between the US and a foreign country." That should be out.

AUSA: Fine.

[Note: Now it's Menninger huddling in the corner with Ghislaine Maxwell, who is speaking with her hands - whispering through mask but gesticulating]

Everdell: In the title, we'd like to change minor to person under 18.

AUSA: The indictment says "minor." But we are not seeking to send the indictment back with the jury.

Judge Nathan: So you are in vigorous agreement.

[Laughter among lawyers.]

[Note: Maxwell's lawyer Menninger has picked up her bag and coat and she's left the courtroom. Everdell is running the show on the jury charge, vs AUSA Rohrbach (though AUSA's Lara Pomeratz and Maurene Comey taking and passing copious notes)].

Everdell: With respect to Jane, we want to use the word "alleges." And here, we'd like you to simply eliminate the reference to age.

AUSA: We can remove age, let the jury decide Annie's age.

Everdell: We preserve our objection with respect to the topless massage.

1543GMT

Maxell's lawyer Bobbi Sternheim jumps in and gets a change. By contrast AUSA Lara Pomerantz passes a note to AUSA Maurene Comey, who reads it and passes it on to AUSA Rohrback, who's doing the speaking. He says, We're OK to cut "including at times Maxwell."

Judge Nathan: So we're taking Kate out of the overt acts. And, let's take a break. [This one is not for the jury - they're not here today]

Recess

1611GMT

Everdell: We want the "conscious avoidance" language out. The record shows people saying their ages. I need to break this into 2 pieces. There was testimony about multiple females being at the Palm Beach residence. But what ages did they look like?

Everdell: Mr. Alessi said he only saw two people who looked under age. Jane says she was 14 or 15 and we say no, she was older. Carolyn says, I was such and such age. But we say we made nothing to do with Carolyn.

Everdell: Maybe Mr. Epstein slipped in a couple of teenagers.

AUSA: Carolyn was told to say she was 18.

Everdell: Carolyn was told by Virginia to say she was 18. That doesn't have anything to do with Ms. Maxwell.

Judge Nathan: We're going to include it. Wait, I have a comment on my own draft. The "he" should be replaced with "she."

Everdell: There were witnesses with felony convictions. We'd like the Sand instruction on the credibility of witnesses.

AUSA: We're not aware of this instruction being given in this District.

Judge Nathan: I haven't given that instruction.

Everdell: Maybe on cooperators?

Judge Nathan: Looks like I have give it as a separate instruction, in US v. Berry

Everdell: We want the instruction that US but not the defense can offer immunity. One of our witnesses said they would invoke the Fifth.

AUSA: Virginia Robert could have been called by the defense --

Defense: I'm not referring to her. I'm referring to Sarah Kellen

AUSA Rohrback: We don't want in closing the argument about the empty chair and why the government is prosecuting.

Everdell: Let's turn to the verdict sheet. Take out the word minor, put in "individuals under the age of 17."

Judge Nathan: OK.

AUSA: We have one nit. Where it's supposed to be, Mark your verdict with a check mark, you actually use a "T" in parenthesis.

Judge Nathan (laughs) I don't know how that got in there. We'll fix it.

Judge Nathan: This should be a two hour closing.

AUSA Comey: But we have exhibits. So two and a half.

Judge Nathan: Can you do thirty for the rebuttal?

AUSA Comey: I'd ask for the court's indulgence for more

Judge Nathan: Thirty five minutes.

[So 5 hours and 35 minutes and the charge, short lunch, Judge says]

1652GMT

Judge Nathan: The charge is 80 pages. My favorite part of the job, reading the charge (laughs). It should take an hour. [So 6 hours and 35 minutes, plus breaks and lunch - can fit between 9 am and 6 pm, on Monday.]

AUSA Maurene Comey: To keep things confidential, during closings some exhibits will only be on the jurors' screen, not the public screen. We'll also turn the podium.

Judge Nathan: I will work on finalizing the charge.

[But will it go into the docket?]

Addendum: Maxwell stayed in the courtroom after some others left. Finally the two Marshals escorted her toward the prisoners' door - she stopped on the way and exchanged words with her brother, then continued to the door.

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 17 (Day 12) 🚔 Crime & Corruption 💸

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1412GMT

Defense is arguing to keep their case open until Monday for a final, 81-year old witness.

Judge Nathan: I'm letting in the documents about residence versus ownership. If I weren't, you might have a point. Is this deposition transcript new to you?

Maxwell's lawyer: She was deposed in a slip and fall case.

Judge Nathan: You'll provide the transcript.

Judge Nathan: I have a rule, you have your next witness or you rest. If otherwise the case closes today, it closes today. [Couldn't Maxwell's lawyers just do super-long direct examination? And what about the 3 day hiatus?]

Maxwell's lawyer: Also if the Marshals can produce another witness we've subpoenaed... The other witness, from the UK, if they will stipulate to it, there'd be no review.

Assistant US Attorney: The subpoenaed witness Kelly, we have no idea what she'd say. No stip.

Maxwell's lawyer Menninger: I understand your Honor wants to run this quickly, but it's a lot of work.

Judge Nathan (laughs) I understand that, Ms. Menninger. Give me a written application and a proposed order in half an hour.

Judge Nathan: There are also some 40 prior inconsistent statements. My colleague Judge Kaplan has helpfully set forth the standard. [He's the judge with Giuffre v. Prince Andrew before him, which Inner City Press is also reporting on]

Judge Nathan: Annie said she didn't remember a chef being there [on the Zorro ranch] but that it made sense to her, so not inconsistency. And the amount of horseback riding is a collateral issue.

Maxwell's lawyer: I think impeachment is for the truth [of the matter asserted]

Judge Nathan: That's way too metaphysical for me to handle right now. (Laughs).

Maxwell's lawyer: We'll have a law enforcement witness and we'd like to ask leading questions.

Judge Nathan: Truth comes out on direct. Start with that.

Maxwell's lawyer: I want to get to the absence of evidence, the lack of GPS given the age of the allegations.

Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: I wanted to ask the agent, that the complaint was first on one time frame then more recent, with Carolyn. I think that's relevant.

AUSA: The court has already ruled on this - the path of the investigation. Let's them raise it in closing.

Judge Nathan: Who's the first [defense] witness today?

Maxwell's lawyer: First Special Agent Jason Richards. Then we would have had Agent Young. Then [drumroll] Eva Dubin. [Former Epstein girlfriend who later married a(nother) hedge funder. She was asked to come at 11 am (1600GMT) but seems it'll be before.]

Well, Eva is a defense witness, testifying for and in favor of Ghislaine Maxwell (whose lawyers did not preview her as a hostile witness).

1530GMT

Jury enters [an hour late]

All rise!

Witness is Agent Jason Richards.

Maxwell's Pagliuca: Where are you based?

Richards: Miami. Before, Palm Beach.

Pagliuca: Let's turn to 2006.

Richards: I was in Unit PV-2. We investigated Epstein.

Pagliuca: Did you interview Carolyn - don't say her last name?

Agent Richards: I did.

Pagluca: Did you recall Carolyn saying she obtained Epstein's number from a phone book and that Epstein returned her call?

Richards: If that's what's in the 302 report.

Pagliuca: No further questions.

Cross examination.

AUSA: Do you show your 302s to those you speak to?

Richards: No.

Judge Nathan: Defense may call it's next witness.

Maxwell's lawyer: We call Agent Amanda Young.

Maxwell's lawyer: Agent Young, was your partner Detective Burns?

Young: Yes. We both check the 302.

Maxwell's lawyer: You just heard Ms. Comey's questions to Agent Richards. 302s are not transcripts, right?

Young: They are not.

Maxwell's lawyer: You interviewed Annie Farmer. About the boots, right?

Young: Yes. The boots were obtained by law enforcement this year. I don't remember which month.

Maxwell's lawyer: Read this.

Young: "In the beginning, Jane would be with her mother and brothers at the Epstein house."

Maxwell's lawyer (Menninger) - I want to turn to page 7. You wrote, Jane did not recall specific abuse that may have occurred in New Mexico

Maxwell's lawyer: Just to emphasize, the boots were discussed recently?

Young: Yes.

Cross examination.

AUSA: What did you do before?

Young; I interviewed children about child abuse.

1614GMT

Sidebar

[Agent Amanda Young sits in the plexi-glass witness box, in dark blue shirt, black jacket. They're back]

Judge Nathan: Jurors will disregard the statement about Agent Young's previous job interviewing children.

AUSA: Did Jane need more than one meeting to say what happened?

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection! Beyond the scope!

AUSA: I'll try another way. Who was there for the inverviews?

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection! Beyond the scope - I didn't ask about this.

Redirect:

Maxwell's Menninger: You used these notes with the grand jury, right? Young: Some of them.

Maxwell's Menninger: Did you show her the 302s?

Young. No. It's not ethical. It's not appropriate.

Maxwell's Menninger: You don't record them?

Young: Only those in custody. Not victim / witnesses.

Maxwell's Menninger: Are you familiar with the DOJ Obtaining Evidence protocols?

AUSA: Objection.

Judge Nathan: Overruled.

Menninger: I have a document, I can show it

Sidebar

1623GMT

Witness: I am Eva Andersson. I also go by Eva Andersson-Dubin. I live in NYC. I am 60.

Maxwell's lawyer: You are married to Glenn Dubin?

Eva: Yes. 28 years. We have 3 children: 27, 25 & 20

Maxwell's lawyer: Gender?

Eva: Female, male, female.

Maxwell's lawyer: What does Mr. Dubin do for employment?

Eva: He is self-employed. I was previously employed as a medical doctor.

Eva: I went to medical school in Stockholm, then UCLA. Then Lenox Hill Hospital in NYC.

Maxwell's lawyer: Did you know Mr. Epstein?

Eva: We dated off and on from 1983 until 1991.

[Note: it's reported that Virginia Robert Giuffre gave Eva a non-sexual massage then after Eva fell asleep, had intercourse with Glenn. Cross-examination?]

Maxwell's lawyer: Did you ever witness any sexual contact between Mr Epstein and --

AUSA Moe: Objection!

Sidebar

Maxwell's lawyer: Let me show you some photographs under seal. Is one person Mr. Epstein and the other one of your children?

Eva: Yes it's the 20. I've never seen this picture before.

Maxwell's lawyer: Let me ask you about flight records.

[These remain largely redacted and Inner City Press' challenge still not docketed - apparently under the theory that if it's denied, it's not a judicial document]

Judge Nathan: I'll give the jurors their mid-morning break.

Jurors exit and witness steps out

Judge Nathan: If there's something inaccurate in the media writ-large, like a blog post...

Judge Nathan: I sustain the government's objection [to asking about published flight logs] under 401 and 403. Now we'll take our break.

1648GMT

Recess

1711GMT

Jury returns

Maxwell's lawyer: Let's look at GX662r, the redacted flight logs of Dave Roberts. Can you see it Doctor Dubin?

Judge Nathan: Can we make sure it is redacted? If so it may be published

On the screen, flight with "JE, Eva Andersson" and Ms. Francis Jardine.

Maxwell's lawyer: Do you remember Francis Jardine?

Eva: I remember Francis, I didn't know her last name.

Maxwell's lawyer: You knew Mr. Epstein was dating her?

Eva: Yes.

Maxwell's lawyer: I'll show you sealed exhibit GX12... and now, only for the witness and court, unredacted Exhibit 662.

[Nothing shown on screen]

Eva: I recognize Sophie Biddle, a massage therapist... And I see my husband's name.

Maxwell's lawyer: Without saying the name that we are not saying, do you see it on the list?

Eva: Yes.

Maxwell's lawyer: Have you ever been in a group sexual encounter with Jane?

Eva: I have not.

Maxwell's lawyer: That's all I have.

Judge Nathan: Ms. Moe.

Cross examination.

AUSA Moe: Are you the only Eva in the whole wide world?

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection on relevance.

Judge Nathan: Overruled.

AUSA Moe: Did you ever discuss with Mr. Epstein his relationship with Ms Maxwell?

Maxwell's lawyer: Hearsay.

Judge Nathan: Sustained.

AUSA Moe: With respect, do you have issues with your memory?

Eva: I can't remember things from last month.

Maxwell's lawyer: This does not need to be discussed.

AUSA Moe: Nothing further.

No redirect.

Judge Nathan: Defense may call its next witness.

It's Michelle Healy.

She says: I'm 47, live in Dallas, as a housewife. My husband is an architect. My sister Shannon lives in Albuqueque. I grew up on Long Island. NY from 1974 to 1999.

Menninger: Where did you work in 1996?

Healy: J. Epstein and company.

Healy: I went to Zorro ranch, my sister was working there.

Maxwell's lawyer: Were you ever involved in any group sexualized massages with Jane?

Healy: Absolutely not.

1803GMT

Cross examination.

AUSA Comey: Are you the only Michelle in the world?

Michelle Healy: I hope not.

AUSA: Never flew on Epstein's plane?

Healy: No.

AUSA: Nothing further.

Recess

(Jury's out. Maxwell's lawyer pushing to have Nag's Head Pub witness testify on Monday)

Judge Nathan: I always say, I have so many bridges to cross. I cross the bridge that is in front of me.

Maxwell's lawyer: We want to put in property records about Stanhope Mews, too. They are self-authenticating.

Judge Nathan: What do we have after lunch?

Maxwell's lawyer: We'll try to work out the other stips.

Judge Nathan: So, no more defense witnesses? I'm going to spend my remaining lunch hour reviewing Kelly.

AUSA: If not Monday morning, it's too late.

Judge Nathan: It'll be a long break for the jury - try to confer.

1942GMT

Jury still not back. Judge Nathan said she intends to ask Ghislaine Maxwell whether she intends to testify. Now Maxwell is talking at length with her lawyer Bobbi Sternheim and others.

2014GMT

There was talk of a prosecution expert in rebuttal but that seems to have been let go. The only remaining issues before closing arguments: 1) asking Maxwell if she'll testify. 2) maybe subpoena-ed witness Kelly or 3) pub-man from UK. 4) charging conference.

Judge Nathan has returned, and AUSA Comey says, we have reached stipulations and we can wrap up the case today.

Judge Nathan: How long to read the stips?

AUSA Comey: 10 to 15 minutes.

Menninger: We ask you to take a notice of a 1996 case before 2nd Circuit Judge Chen

Judge Nathan: You've given Judge Chen an early promotion (laughs).

Menninger: The US leased a building to Epstein [had been Iran's consultate?]

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 16 (Day 11)

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1401GMT

Judge Alison Nathan, who yesterday in DC forwarded her nomination to 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals, takes the bench & just begins ruling on the filings that built up over the 3 day hiatus (request for call in line amid Omicron and all flight logs still UNacted on)

Judge Nathan: About Doctor Loftus' testimony. The US seeks to exclude 2 aspects, her testimony on leading questions and therapists' techniques. I have ruled that these are generally admissible. I deny the government's motion to preclude.

Maxwell's lawyer Bobbi Sternheim: I didn't think there was a need to make this part of the public record.

[Talk, which we'll also anonymize, is about positive COVID test. But question: has the 3 day hiatus made a COVID impact on this trial more or less likely?]

Judge Nathan: I let a juror deliberate remotely...

Team Maxwell: Our first witness, Ms. Espinosa, has given us some photos of the soap opera of "Jane" [Maxwell doxing alert]

Maxwell's lawyer: In October 1996, where were you living?

Witness: I started out on the Upper East Side.

Maxwell's lawyer: I was hired as a lawyer for Jeffrey Epstein's company.

Maxwell's lawyer: Would you recognize Ms. Maxwell today?

Ms. Espinosa: She's over there, in what appears to be a PURPLE sweater. [Identification made] Maxwell's lawyer: Where else did you work?

Ms. Espinosa: Sometimes at Ghislaine's residence.

Ms. Espinosa: Did did have other personal assistants come through, like Sarah Kellen and Emmy Tayler.

Maxwell's lawyer: When did you see Sarah Kellen?

Ms. Espinosa: More toward the end.

Maxwell's lawyer: Can you describe the layout of the office on Madison Avenue?

Espinosa: You get off the elevator and there are the restrooms. Jeffrey's office was in the corner. I sat to the left of his assistant. My office was Ghislaine's office. We shared it.

Maxwell's lawyer: Did you sign a non disclosure agreement?

Espinosa: Yes.

Espinosa: Ghislaine ran the properties for Jeffrey Epstein.

Maxwell's lawyer: Where did she fall in importance?

Espinosa: She was obviously very important to me. And to Jeffrey, given his personal residences.

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Espinosa: Jeffrey acquired a Paris apartment, and then an island. It was called Little St. James but got renamed, Little Saint Jeff's.

Maxwell's lawyer: Did you assist?

Espinosa: There was construction. I furnished the house, in a resort style.

Espinosa: We shipped in sand --

Maxwell's lawyer: You shipped in sand to a tropical island?

Espinosa: He wanted more sand on the beach. And palm trees. We even had a fire truck and fire men on the island.

Espinosa: Before Jeffrey would visit one of the residences, we would fly in the bread he liked. I think we did butter, too.

Maxwell's lawyer: What about Emmy Tayler?

Espinosa: She would take care of the dog, and carry Ghislaine's handbag.

Maxwell's lawyer: Did Ghislaine ever live with Jeffrey Epstein?

Espinosa: No.

Maxwell's lawyer: What about 44 Kinnerton Street in London?

Espinosa: Yes, I've been there. 3 years ago.

Maxwell's lawyer: Do you know who owned it?

Espinosa: No.

Maxwell's lawyer: Did Jeffrey Epstein receive female visitors in his office?

Espinosa: Yes.

Maxwell's lawyer: Look at this document & the person called "Jane." Do you recall seeing her in the office?

Espinosa: Yes

Maxwell's lawyer: How old did she seem?

Espinosa: 18

Maxwell's lawyer: Do you know if Jane traveled in Mr. Epstein's planes?

Espinosa: I don't know. She moved to California to be on a soap opera. It's my favorite soap opera. I have headshots she sent me. [doxing alert]

Maxwell's lawyer: We want to introduce these headshots into the records under seal, at least temporarily. I have copies for the jurors. Can you read the envelope?

Espinosa: It's from Jane to Cimberly [she pronounces her name Kimberly] It's headshots of the cast

Espinosa: Ghislaine and Epstein at that time were behaving like a couple. All flirty. It seemed like Ghislaine moved on. I know she started dating --

Assistant US Attorney: Objection! Lack of foundation.

Judge Nathan: Sustained.

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Maxwell's lawyer: Who came to visit Jeffrey Epstein at the office?

Espinosa: Gwendolyn Beck.... Shelly Lewis... She was British.

Maxwell's lawyer: Moving on, when Ghislaine went to Florida, was it only Palm Beach?

Espinosa: Miami too. She had a friend there.

Maxwell's lawyer: Do you know who Ted Waitt is?

Espinosa: I learned. [Gateway co-founder]

Judge Nathan: We'll stop here for the mid-morning break.

Recess

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Everdell: Do you know if Ms. Maxwell got married?

Espinosa starts to answer but AUSA objects.

Judge Nathan: Sustained.

Everdell: OK, when did you have a video conference with the government about this case?

Espinosa: November 2020.

Everdell: Why did you leave?

Espinosa: After 9/11 I wanted to return to California. I feel like Ghislaine was a good resource for my own career, what I learned, how to handle multiple projects at one time. It helped me get to where I am today.

Everdell: did you ever seen Jeffrey Epstein involved with young girls?

Espinosa: No.

Everdell: No further questions.

Judge Nathan: Cross.

AUSA: You never went to Palm Beach, right?

Espinosa: No.

AUSA: No further questions.

Next witness: Raghu Sud.

Everdell: Where do you live?

Sud: East Windsor, NJ. I work at Shopper's Travel since 1988. I am Vice President.

Everdell: Was Epstein a customer?

Sud: Yes.

Everdell: Can you authenticate these travel records? Yes.

AUSA: These records in RS-1, they are to 2006? Yes.

Everdell: No re-direct.

Next witness: Elizabeth Loftus, who testified for Harvey Weinstein. First, her credentials. This could take a while.

Loftus: I have a big CV. I have been consulted by DOJ, the CIA...

Maxwells' lawyer: Are there experiments on emotion and its impact on memory?

Loftus: I published one in 2008. We implanted entire flash events and measured responses.

Loftus: I've testified in 300 trials. I've only consulted with the prosecution 5 times, and testified only one for the prosecution. My research into false memory doesn't fit into their agenda.

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Loftus is accepted as an expert witness in this case.

Loftus: Your Honor, can I used the equipment to show the jurors the three stages?

AUSA Pomerantz: No objection.

Loftus: The media is a source of post-event false memories, contamination.

Loftus (bragging) - And when I was consulting for Secret Service... [Wag Q: And when was that?]

Loftus has drawn a barbell, labeled "Acquisition - Retention - Retrieval." Now she says people might remember something as a dumbbell if it's labeled so

Update: Now Loftus has drawn a box under the bar of the barbell and has written in it the word "Time."

Judge Nathan: OK, we're going to take the lunch break. Jurors, enjoy your lunch.

Jury exits

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Judge Nathan: I'll look at your submissions while I have my lunch.

Judge Nathan: We'll try to come to resolution before the jury comes back. Mr. Hamilton, you're going to confer on that, how to make it happen.

Maxwell's lawyer: If he's up to it

Recess

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Maxwell's lawyer want to put in "prior inconsistent statement" of survivor witness Carolyn, after they finish the paid memory decay expert Loftus.

Judge Nathan: What else?

Maxwell's lawyer: The US' rebuttal expert, I'm prepared to file something if they actually call the expert.

Judge Nathan: Hamilton?

Everdell: We reached him, he can do WebEx tomorrow.

Sternheim: Because of his condition, we haven't spoken.

Jury enters Maxwell's lawyer: Dr Loftus, are you aware of image enhancing memory distortion?

Loftus: It makes people feel better about themselves.

Maxwell's lawyer: I asked you about C.V. So I move into evidence your C.V.

AUSA: Objection.

Judge Nathan: I am allowing in Dr Loftus' C.V.

Maxwell's lawyer: What are you charging?

Loftus: $600 an hour.

Maxwell's lawyer: Media distortion includes dramatic portrayals, right?

Loftus: Oh, yes.

Cross examination.

AUSA Pomerantz: Let's talk about consulting. You've done it with defense attorneys 100s of times, right?

Loftus: Probably.

AUSA: You've only consulted with the prosecutors five times, right?

Loftus: Right.

AUSA: In your book "Witness for the Defense," you wrote that you should be an advocate

Loftus: That leaves out the context --

AUSA: You don't sit in courtroom - you weren't present for testimony on this case, right?

Loftus: I was not present in the courtroom.

AUSA: You're charging the defendant $600 an hour right now, right?

Loftus: Yes.

AUSA: You were paid for high profile defendants, right? Millions of dollars?

Loftus: I don't know how much.

AUSA: In 1975 you didn't charge $600 a hour, right?

Loftus: I did it free.

AUSA: You market yourself by testifying, right?

Loftus: I don't market myself at all.

AUSA: You give lists of your cases to defense attorneys, right?

Loftus: When asked.

AUSA: You testified for Harvey Weinstein, right?

Judge Nathan: Just a moment.

[When they resume, there's no more mention of Harvey Weinstein. At least not yet.]

AUSA: When you testify for high profile defendants, it brings you more business, right?

Loftus: Maybe.

AUSA: You showed fake photos of Bugs Bunny at Disney, right?

Loftus: Yes.

AUSA: Bugs Bunny is Warner Brothers, but 16% misremembered, right?

Maxwell's lawyer: I object.

Judge Nathan: You can come up.

Sidebar

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Lawyers return from sidebar.

Loftus: Some falsely remembered touching Bugs Bunny's head and him saying "What's Up, doc?"

AUSA: There's a science museum experiment, right?

AUSA: And the lost in the mall study - 25% misremembered, right?

Loftus: Correct.

AUSA: I'm not going to ask you to describe a rectal enema, but it's a painful procedure, right?

Loftus: Yes.

AUSA: This memory could not easily be implanted

Re-direct.

Maxwell's lawyer: There are restrictions on what kind of studies you can do, right?

AUSA: Objection.

Judge Nathan: I'll allow it.

Loftus: We can't implant memories of sexual abuse.

Next witness: Michael William Aznaran.

Maxwell's lawyer: We need a sidebar.

Judge Nathan: Wait for the break.

Maxwell's lawyer: Where do you work?

Aznaran: Customs & Border Protection. We check incoming people.

Maxwell's lawyer: Look at this sealed Exhibit GX12. Call her Jane. Did you search for this?

Aznaran: I did.

Maxwell's lawyer: And Kate and Annie Farmer, did you search for them?

Aznaran: Yes, I did the searches.

Maxwell's lawyer: So now we need the sidebar.

Judge Nathan: We'll get the jurors their afternoon break.

Jury exits

Judge Nathan: Mr. Azaran, could you step out?

AUSA: These are 15 years of records, including outside the charges time frame.

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