dem6nic - The Great Awakening - Where We Go Qne, We Go All!

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We are saving Israel for last. The Great Awakening took place worldwide, but Israel was saved for last for a very specific reason.

The brainwashing goes deep, and many Israelis are now awakening to the idea that their countrymen have been perpetrating a hostage/genocide situation for decades now. Check out this Israeli sharing his awakening.

https://files.catbox.moe/yl1oit.mp4

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What is a MAP? (media.greatawakening.win) 🐴 kek 💩

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Obama's Gay Sex Fantasy Confession Letter (www.dailymail.co.uk)

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Barack Obama's gay sex fantasy confession is revealed in letter to ex

Former President Barack Obama's gay sex fantasy was revealed in a newly obtained 1982 letter to his ex girlfriend, acquired by The New York Post.

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Tim Ballard is a Knights Templar

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He's with the Knights Templar and on the Board of Directors for Afghanistan World Foundation (with Henry Kissinger and Diane Feinstein).

http://templartimes.smotj.org/20150715_news.htm https://afghanistanworldfoundation.org/awf-board/

Controlled opposition? Did we drop the ball on this one or could he be an insider?

Update: Here's a good dig from anonfamous

https://anonfamous.substack.com/p/the-tim-ballard-rabbit-hole

The connections run deep.

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Quiz: In which recent speech did President Trump refer to a "Horror Show"?

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What was the quote in context?

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Jimmy Saville 2.0? "OK Groomer!" (www.dailymail.co.uk)

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Phillip Schofield breaks his silence

Phillip Schofield, 61, (pictured) broke his silence tonight, saying he's 'broken and ashamed' but not a groomer in his first interview since admitting an affair.

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Royal Family tormented by 170 stalkers (www.mirror.co.uk)

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Ukraine Q Post

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 29 (Day 19: Jury Deliberations 5)

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[Extra details in comments c/o Adam Klasfeld]

Previous Updates

1431GMT

Jury deliberating under threat of continuing into New Years Eve & Day due to Omicron (but no public call-in line), the lawyers are assembled, Ghislaine Maxwell is at defense table.

Ghislaine Maxwell is in a maroon sweater. Judge Nathan is still not on the bench, but word is, There is a jury note. They resumed at 9am (1400GMT), so a note by 9:33am (1433GMT) is relatively early. For them. Comparatively.

Judge Nathan: I have a note. Can we please have the transcripts for Shawn, Cimberly Espinosa, then a name I can't read. Then Amanda Young, then Jason Richards. Also, can we have clarification about our schedules? 12/31? 1/1? There's a conflict I'll do at sidebar

[Judge Nathan goes off-the-record at sidebar. Meanwhile, clearly the jurors picked up on Judge Nathan's unstated threat yesterday about "all week" including by implication New Years Eve - and maybe New Years Day. The noted added, So we can plan... While the lawyers are at sidebar whispering with Judge Nathan, Ghislaine Maxwell is alone at the defense table, rummaging through her green plastic accordion file. The two Marshals are watching her closely]

Judge Nathan returns: Beyond the private matter, we still can't read the name of the fifth person they want the testimony of. So I'll send them a note asking. I'll step down to do that.

All rise!

1457GMT

Judge Nathan is back and asks the lawyers how to respond on scheduling, mentioning 1/2 (the Sunday) too.

Defense wants them to have the weekend off. Judge Nathan, not so much. Only if "unmovable commitments."

Judge Nathan: Given my concern about Omicron, quarantine for 10 days, we need to proceed every day.

AUSA: We agree, every day absent a hardship.

Judge Nathan: So I'm going to tell them, Yes, 12/31, 1/1 and 1/2 unless you reach a verdict. Unless unmovable conflict.

Another note: "We are requesting the testimony of the expert witness on memory." [Elizabeth Loftus, of Harvey Weinstein (and other) fame]

Judge Nathan: This is Court Exhibit 19.

[Inner City Press asked these be put on PACER - they have not been]

There's a dispute about redacting part of the testimony of Cimberly Espinosa.

Judge Nathan: She said, Seems like they started dating other people, Ghislaine just moved on. Then there was an objection. Let's be sure we send the right one back.

1509GMT

Judge Nathan: Anything else for now?

Both: No.

All rise!

[Note: I think this is an important issue: courts are supposed to be transparent to the public, and during this trial a person covering it was not allowed into the courthouse, with Omicron cited. So there should be a call-in line. Immediately. Today. Why isn't there?]

1609GMT

In the lull, from the Miami Herald: Liz Stein "was denied entry and told by a U.S. Marshal that no seats had been set aside in the court for victims. The office of U.S. District Judge Alison Nathan, who is presiding over the trial, declined to comment"

Inner City Press did see some of the back-and-forth in 318 [just as it earlier saw Leah Saffian move into the well of the courtroom with her phone] - but 1 question here is the US Attorney's Office using approval by Epstein Fund as proxy for being a victim.

It seems the position of SDNY - the court, not the prosecutors - is that all victims can get a seat in the courtroom. But who determines who the victims are? Some of these decisions, Judge Nathan seems to be passing the buck on. Who decided to redact flight logs?

How does Leah Saffian have her phone in the courtroom? She has not filed a "notice of appearance" in US v. Maxwell, & has no other case in SDNY. But has phone, shows it to Kevin &, some say, Ghislaine. Is there some Judge Nathan order?

There is a way to apply to bring electronic devices in - and it is supposed to be in the public docket. (See one such request in this US v. Maxwell case: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHyiGisXEAAGk3U?format=jpg ). But in the docket, no mention of Leah Saffian - no notice of appearance, no pro hac vice, nothing.

It seems that to be part of the defense team, Leah Saffian would have to file a notice of appearance and be listed in the docket. But she is not. Maybe they asked Judge Nathan to sign an "electronic devices" order. But if so, it should be in the docket. It is not.

[Reply from beyondreasdoubt: Incorrect. An attorney can apply and get an electronic services pass. So if for example, I were sitting in the courtroom with you right now, I would have my phone. You’re good, but need to realize you don’t necessarily know the ins and outs and sometimes mislead your followers.

Reply to beyondreasdoubt: Thanks. Not only is Leah Saffian not listed as one of Maxwell's 5 lawyers in this case - she does not appear as an attorney in any SDNY case. So just to be clear, are you saying that any lawyer, from any state, can bring a phone into the SDNY courthouse? Thanks.]

Further on Leah Saffian - & maybe she'll find some defenders or obfuscators for this, too - without being listed as one of Maxwell's 5 lawyers in this case, she went into "the well" and sat at defense table. Others say they saw her sharing her phone with Maxwell.

Leah Saffian, having done the search, is not listed as admitted to the bar in New York. Nor has an pro hac vice been filed. Yet there she is, in the well of Courtroom 318, at the defense talk with her phone, talking with Ghislaine. Totally normal?

Since Leah Saffian does not show up as a New York attorney, and is not admitted pro hac vice in this or any other SDNY case, how does she get the electronic service pass? Or is there a signed order, & if so, given restrictions on the overflow rooms, where is it?

I'm just saying, given the restrictions in this case - no use of electronics by journalists or public in Courtroom 318, no public call-in line - the unexplained Saffian phone, at the defense table, for Maxwell is a question.

I asked officials here if it is permissible to share a smart phone with an incarcerated defendant and was told, No. Also that she should not have been in the well of the court (she was, at the defense table) while others were admonished & nearly more for the same.

Leah Saffian is not listed as one of Maxwell's 5 lawyers in this case. And I have seen CJA defense lawyers admonished in Mag Court for sharing phone with their clients. But again, Saffian is not Maxwell's lawyer here.

1912GMT

Bobbi Sternheim is at the defense table, and there's word that's another jury note.

Judge Nathan assumes the bench and says... "May we please have the Larry Visoski testimony."

There's laughter in the courtroom.

Judge Nathan: It's court exhibit 20.

[Leaves bench.]

[I think because, with the pressure to reach a verdict, it is an almost comical let-down to have the jury note after some hours be only for 1 more witness' testimony. I'm not saying it was uproarious laughter. It functioned like a groan, but came out like laughter]

2153GMT

ALERT: There is a verdict, soon to be read out.

"A verdict has been reached in US vs. Maxwell, 20-cr-330 (AJN)... Please be advised that a verdict has been reached in the above matter. The verdict will be announced in open court shortly."

Judge Nathan: I am going to read the verdict after the jury comes in. Anyone in the courtroom who makes noise will be removed. Bring in the jury.

Verdict Sheet here: https://t.co/6QwMZH4byO

Jury enters

[In the front row of Courtroom 318: Leah Saffian, Kevin Maxwell, the two sisters, Isabelle and Christine]

Judge Nathan: Have your reached your verdict?

Foreperson: We have.

Judge Nathan (opens envelope) -

Count 1: GUILTY.

Count 2: Not Guilty.

Count 3: Guilty.

Count 4: Guilty.

Count 5: Guilty.

Count 6: Guilty.

Ghislaine Maxwell GUILTY of 5 of 6 counts

[For those asking, this is the ONLY count Maxwell was found not guilty on: "COUNT TWO: Enticement of an Individual Under the Age of 17 (Jane only) to Travel with Intent to Engage in Illegal Sexual Activity." https://t.co/6QwMZH4byO ]

Bobbi Sternheim: We want an order to get Ms. Maxwell the booster.

Judge Nathan: It is available at MDC. Sentencing date will be chosen later after the parties confer.

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 28 (Day 18: Jury Deliberations 4)

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1419GMT

Another day of jury deliberations begin, with Maxwell's two sisters in the front row of Courtroom 318 and the prosecutors nowhere to be seen.

Now in the case docket, Maxwell's lawyers' letter to Judge Nathan asking for "additional instructions to correct apparent errors in the jury's understanding of Counts Two and Four."

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHs3qRTXEAM0GwQ.jpg

So far, no US Attorney's Office response in the docket.

1447GMT

Lawyers are assembling. Bobbi Sternheim, prosecutors, Leah Saffian in front row. But still no Maxwell, nor Judge Nathan. Both should be coming. Might Judge Nathan set US a deadline to reply on instruction-Gate? Or have they already, undocketed?

Judge Nathan: I got the defense's letter this morning. I haven't heard from the government.

Maxwell is at the defense table: black sweater, black mask.

Assistant US Attorney asks that courtroom door be closed, says "Just being cautious."

AUSA: There is no reason to be speculating about what the jury is thinking. Sending back the [proposed] additional instruction would just compound the problem.

Judge Nathan: The defense's proposal speaks about Count 2 which wasn't asked about.

Judge Nathan: I want to make more of a record of extending the deliberations by an hour. I want to make clear: I am doing this because of the expansion of Omicron.

[Inner City Press: Then why still no public call-in line? And what of the 3 day DC trip?]

Judge Nathan says she will speak later today about deliberations going forward. Speed up or pause, due to Omicron?

Defense speaks, not (yet) on that, but to make a further record (for appeal) about their proposed additional instruction to the jury.

Judge Nathan: I'm not going to give them an incorrect instruction.

1501GMT

Judge goes on to refer again to Omicron. Unclear if she may mean suspending deliberations (?!?) or having them double down / speed up until a decision is reached. She's left the courtroom.

2146GMT

The lawyers are assembling, it's said there is a note from the jury.

Judge Nathan: The jury says, We are making progress and would like to end today at 5 pm and resume tomorrow at 9 am. Does anyone want to say anything? I have a view.

Defense: Let them go.

AUSA: We defer to the court.

Judge Nathan: I'll tell, deliberate the weekend

[Note: Judge Nathan canceled the trial for three days to go to DC, told jurors they'd have this Thursday and Friday off. Now she's saying deliberated Dec 31 and Jan 1, if no verdict. Appealable?]

Defense: Why tell them the weekend? Just the week.

Judge Nathan: I will say "everyday this week."

[Apparently she'll only mention the weekend when it gets closer.]

Defense: Thank you.

Judge Nathan: I'll ask Ms. Williams to bring them out.

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 27 (Day 16: Jury Deliberations 3)

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Title Correction: This is Day 17

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Previous Updates

1421GMT

Jury is supposed to resume deliberating today after a 4-day hiatus. So far, Courtroom 318 is empty.

1435GMT*

Still nothing in Courtroom 318. In the docket of the case, nothing since Dec 21, 2021. But digging, there is this, another redacted letter urging that Maxwell be freed, "I have never witnessed anything close to inappropriate with Ghislaine": https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHnw5d9WYAUc1CT?format=jpg

1515GMT

still nothing in Courtroom 318. Nothing docketed since Dec 21, 2021. But digging, there is yet another redacted letter urging that Maxwell be freed, saying she shows "consideration of others, no matter if they are a king or a street cleaner": https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHn6V1hXsAoPuRR?format=jpg

1523GMT

Defense lawyers and prosecutors are assembling in Courtroom 318. Something is afoot, if only an announcement by Judge Nathan.

1528GMT

Ghislaine Maxwell is brought out of the holding cell.

Now Judge Nathan says, I have a note, we need highlighters and office supplies, Post-It notes and a white board - and a definition of enticement.

Assistant US Attorney: On page 21 of your instruction, you defined enticement in its ordinary, every-day meaning. That's what they should be told.

Judge Nathan stares into her computer.

Maxwell's lawyer Christian Everdell: There are cases defining enticement, I don't have then at hand --

Judge Nathan: I have one: US v. Almonte. Is that what you have in mind, Mr. Everdell?

Everdell: I think we cited a case in our Rule 29 argument, on causation too

Judge Nathan: In response, I will write, Dear Jury, we are gathering supplies. On enticement, see the jury charge

Sternheim: Ms. Maxwell has been given an N-95 mask but she is being told to only wear it in the courtroom.

Judge Nathan: The rule is in the courtHOUSE

Judge Nathan: I will speak to the District Executive's office.

All rise!

Ghislaine Maxwell is led out of the courtroom by the two U.S. Marshals.

1607GMT

Now the jury has made another request, for the testimony of [Palm Beach Police Officer] Gregory Parkinson, about the search. Inner City Press uploaded video here: https://youtu.be/oZOEoO8eBKw

1955GMT

After more than 3 hours of radio silence from the Maxwell jury, her lawyer Bobbi Sternheim has returned to the defense table; the prosecutors, too. Word is, there is a jury note.

And now Ghislaine Maxwell is out of the holding cell, with two U.S. Marshals, and sits at defense table.

Judge Nathan: The jury writes, Can we please have the testimony of David Rogers? [One of 2 Epstein pilots to testify at the trial.]

Judge Nathan: I don't know what time the jury wishes to deliberate to this evening. I assume we'll get a note. We'll wait for that. If they're not done today, I'll consider extending deliberations into tomorrow for at least some period of time.

Maxwell's lawyer Bobbi Sternheim: I think this jury has a mind of its own, they declined to deliberate last Thursday.

Judge Nathan: Think about indication of at least some extension of hours tomorrow if they have not completed the task.

[Note: The idea seems to be, if the jury doesn't decide today, Judge Nathan might tell or encourage them to stay past 5 pm tomorrow. A cynic might say, In a hurry to get to the 2d Circuit? Different judges have different methods. Also in the arsenal: Allen Charge]

2130GMT

Judge Nathan is back, with a jury note, and lets / tells counsel to take a photo of it. (Photos banned in Federal courts?)

[Note: It's a convoluted note involving Jane, if if the jury can, if it makes certain findings, still render a guilty verdict.]

Ghislaine Maxwell is back at the defense table; lawyers at both sides studying their photo(s) of the jury note.

Judge Nathan: The jurors also say they want to end today at 5 pm. We'll take that up after we address responding to this note.

Prosecutors ask for "one more moment" before arguments on how to respond to the "Jane note."

Assistant US Attorney: Our proposal would be to refer the jurors to the instructions. We find the question confusing.

Defense lawyer Everdell: We want the answer to be No

Everdell: The jurors are clearly separating in their minds the flight to, versus from, New Mexico. There is no motivating purpose to the return trip. It was not for the purpose of engaging in sexual activity, the return flight. The flight there, maybe

AUSA: It's not clear what flight they are talking about.

Everdell: The only evidence in the record we have is from the flight log. [It seems that has been left heavily redacted]

Judge Nathan: I'm inclined to reply, I can't response other then point to the count in the indictment and instruction.

Everdell: Page 28, instruction 21.

[Jury Charge here: https://www.documentcloud.org/documents/21165198-finaljurychargeicp ]

Judge Nathan: Is it your contention that to convict on this count the jury would have to find that the defendant was involved in this aspect of this flight. It's difficult to parse this question.

Judge Nathan: I don't know how much weight to put on that comma placement [in the jury question]. I can't answer this ambiguous question "No." The only solution here is to direct them to the full instruction on page 28.

Maxwell's lawyer Bobbi Sternheim: Your Honor needs to make clear to their juror what state comes after the word "New" - they need to find a violation of New York law.

Judge Nathan: I do not know what this question means. So I will just direct them back to the count.

Judge Nathan: I am referring them to the instruction.

Everdell: We reiterate our prior objection.

Judge Nathan: I'll sent the response with the CSO [Court Security Officer]. Now, on extending the time?

AUSA: You should tell them to expect an extended day tomorrow.

Defense: We think urging the jurors to stay late sends them a message that they need to hurry up and decide.

AUSA: It is within the Court's discretion.

Judge Nathan: I'll tell them if deliberation is not complete tomorrow, I'd like them to stay at least to 6pm (2300GMT)

Judge Nathan: I'll tell them they could stay later than 6 pm... unless they indicate to Ms. Williams that it's a hardship.

Defense: Any suggestion that they should complete their decision --

Judge Nathan: I used this language last week.

Judge Nathan: I clearly have discretion to set the default schedule. And I do it over your objection.

Defense: We ask you not include that phrase.

Judge Nathan: I'll use the same language I used last week. I'll add, Take all the time you need. Bring in the jury.

Jury enters

Jury is instructed by Judge Nathan

Jury leaves

Judge asks the lawyers, Anything further for today?

Both: No.

Court adjourned

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 22 (Day 16: Jury Deliberations 2)

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[c/o Adam Klasfeld]

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Previous Updates

1403GMT

We're embarking on the second full day of deliberations, after the roughly 45 minutes of huddling the jury undertook following Ghislaine Maxwell summations. (Depending on how you're counting, it's the second full day of deliberations or the third day, period.)

Scheduling notice:

Court was originally scheduled to be dark for the rest of the week after today, but Judge Nathan invited jurors yesterday to sit Thursday if they so choose.

We'll learn soon (a) if they'll need it and (b) if they opt to do it.

"What is taking so long?"

Experiment: Get 12 men and women from various ages, backgrounds and walks of life in a room and find agreement on one thing.

Now, try that with six unfamiliar federal statutes, broken down into 80 pages of instructions, and a mountainous trial record.

2058GMT

Remember when jurors wanted transcripts of every Ghislaine Maxwell accuser BUT “Kate”? Now, they want the testimony of “Kate” and Juan [Alessi, presumably].

They also want “Jane’s” transcript again—this time, in a three-ring binder.

As to Judge Nathan’s invitation that they could deliberate tomorrow, Ghislaine Maxwell jurors replied in a note: “No, thank you.”

As for those seeking a tea-leaf read on this one, the most that can seemingly be divined here is: They’re studious.

Also, with the caveat that we do not know the context of the gesture:

Maxwell’s attorneys Laura Menninger and Bobbi Sternheim could be seen giving each other a high-five in court—before the brief conference to discuss plans for Thursday. This gesture fell right before it became increasingly clear deliberations would stretch into Week Two, after the holidays.

It’s official: Jury deliberations will resume on Monday in the trial of Ghislaine Maxwell, after the holiday break.

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 21 (Day 15: Jury Deliberations 1)

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Previous Updates

1510GMT

Judge Nathan took to the bench at 10:10 am and said, I've gotten a note. The jury wants the transcripts of the testimony of Jane, Annie and Carolyn. It will be assembled and sent to them via the Court Security Officer, who's been sworn in for this function.

Courtroom is empty again; three long transcripts going back to jury. For now, Inner City Press has objection and uploaded the (partially redacted) US Attorney's Office slides from yesterday's closing argument: https://t.co/1nMkYYL5C1

With the jury asking for the entire testimony of three of the four survivor witnesses, could be a long day.

As of 11 am, current status in Courtroom 318: empty, but sitting at defense table are Maxwell's official lawyer Bobbi Sternheim and unofficial / undocketed lawyer or photo-fixer Leah Saffian.

The jury went to their deliberation room for an hour yesterday, but I'm not sure that should really be called deliberation. Today, three hours so far, and clearly deliberating - they're request the testimony of three witnesses.

1755GMT

Still no prosecutors at their table, now 2 (or 3, counting Saffian) Maxwell counsel at theirs, no more notes from jury. In the lull, Inner City Press uploaded the redacted defense closing sides initially withheld: https://t.co/fGHqOi4Zwt

1822GMT

They have brought Ghislaine Maxwell out to the defense table. The other, listed counsel scatter and Gislaine is talking one on one with Leah Saffian. No In-N-Out Burger photo can be taken in the courtroom. But something is afoot. https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHJr-9YXwAUfJfD?format=jpg

Just to tamp down expectation from this "afoot-ness" --Maxwell has been taken back in the holding cell. The burst of action, sources neither prosecution or defense say, was to agree on redactions on the testimony to be given to the jury (sidebars out, etc.)

1951GMT

Courtroom 318 is populating again; word is, there is a jury note. Ghislaine Maxwell has been brought out again. Judge Nathan: I have a note. "We would like the FBI deposition 3505-005 referred to by the defense."

AUSA: That is not in evidence.

Maxwell's lawyer: There is impeachment [of Carolyn] in that document, although we acknowledge it is not in evidence. So we proposed not saying, It is not in evidence.

Judge Nathan: How about, All admitted exhibits are before you?

AUSA: Fine.

Maxwell's lawyer: Why not say, You have the admitted evidence about 3505-005. Just don't say it is not in evidence.

Judge Nathan: They are asking for the document, I presume because they have the testimony about it. [Pauses to write something out by hand]

Judge Nathan: It is not an exhibit, the testimony about it, you have. I'll just send in a note for efficiency. I'll say: "3505-005 is not an admitted exhibit but the testimony about it," you have.

Agreed. All rise!

2023GMT

Maxwell's lawyers wanted Judge Nathan to come back, and she has. Maxwell's lawyer wants a copy of the note.

Judge Nathan: The foreperson has signed the note. So we have to redact it. So I will just read it to you again.

Judge Nathan: Counsel are aware of the identity of the jurors. So I'll just redact it as to the public.

All rise!

2106GMT

Judge Nathan: I have received a note. The jurors say they want to end today at 5pm (2200GMT), deliberate tomorrow from 9 to 4:30 (1400 to 2130) & have lunch at noon. [And if not decision by the end of Dec 22?]

Judge Nathan: It is possible for them to deliberate on Thursday.

Maxwell's lawyer Sternheim: Will you offer then Thursday, so they can make arrangement?

Judge Nathan: We could tell them that.

[If memory serves, the defense did not want the deliberations to take place under the deadline of Christmas. Now, they seem to like it]

2130GMT

Jury has another note / question: Can we consider Annie's testimony conspiracy to commit a crime in Counts 1 and 3?

AUSA: Say yes.

Maxwell's lawyer: If someone asks, can I drive, you could answer, Yes but within the speed limit.

Judge Nathan: I'm going to answer, Yes you may. Please been back at 4:55 (2155GMT) so we can let the jurors go at 5 pm (2200GMT).

here is a photo - screenshot - of the Count 1 and 3 the jury asked about, if they can use Annie's testimony to confirm under these counts: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/FHKc4jtXIAI8zM5?format=png

2203GMT

Jury enters

Judge Nathan: The timing tomorrow is fine, give Ms. Williams your lunch order on the way out. If you have not completed your deliberations it's possible for you to continue your deliberation on Dec 23. And, wear your masks except eating or drinking

Jury leaves

Judge Nathan: So did you finally finish agreeing on the redactions to the transcript?

AUSA: Yes.

Judge Nathan: It was frustrating to have them wait for 3 hours. Adjourned.

Court adjourned

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 20 (Day 14: Closing Arguments)

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1343GMT

Day of closing arguments begins, after AUSA Maurene Comey Sunday afternoon said public and press should not see the slides in real time.

Judge Nathan asks if the exhibits that have been withheld throughout the trial have at least been put in the public docket this morning. No - only on DOJ's USAfx password protected site. And no defense exhibits in sight.

Amid secrecy, lunch time for jurors is being discussed.

Judge Nathan: The government will go straight through "then an early lunch." The defense, then rebuttal, charge and deliberations possibly beginning today. A comfort break somewhere in there.

Judge Nathan: Stay a few minutes away, so Ms. Williams can reach you, if the jury has notes or a verdict.

Note: Inner City Press' immediately filing opposition to withholding of slides and all defense exhibit still not docketed. It's here: documentcloud.org/documents/2116… Judge Nathan: Anything else? The box is turned.

[That is, the speaker's box, so that the public can't see. Note: no problem without confidentiality / privacy of victims / survivors. But they are withholding ALL slides and demonstratives, and all defense exhibits]

[And note: SDNY Judge Rakoff, when Inner City Press requested in US v. Weigand (Eaze / Wirecard case), ordered that all exhibits, US and defense, be put on a public website, not just USAfx.]

While awaiting entry of jury & US argument, noting that yesterday after Inner City Press wrote to Judge Nathan, AUSA Comey and 2 on defense, suddenly exhibits from much earlier in the case were put onto USAfx, redacted, including Virginia Roberts' school records

There are also Epstein Victims Compensation Fund general releases, one for Annie Farmer and another with name redacted. And a long video Inner City Press is still belatedly downloading. Hide the ball until the last day, then put it up in redacted form

1408GMT

Jury enters

All rise!

[Ghislaine Maxwell is in a beige sweater today, at defense table with Bobbi Sternheim. In front row of gallery, Kevin Maxwell and, yes, Leah Saffian]

Judge Nathan: We'll break early for lunch, then we'll come back and hear Ms. Menninger. Then another break. Rebuttal by the government & instructions from me. Ms Moe?

AUSA Moe: Ghislaine Maxwell was dangerous. She targeted a girl whose father had just died [Jane]

AUSA Moe: Maxwell ran the same playbook again and again. She groomed them. She caused deep and lasting harm to young girls. It is time to hold her accountable. [Maxwell flipping through papers, flipping hair].

AUSA Moe: You've heard from law enforcement officers

AUSA Moe: You've seen documents: phone messages, and a little black book with victims' names. This summation is our opportunity to explain who all this evidence fits together. Maxwell is guilty. Today I'm going to talk to you about 8 different reasons she's guilty

AUSA Moe: First, Maxwell and Epstein were partners. They were in a romantic relationship. Maxwell wrote this document. [Not show to public or press.]

AUSA Moe (reading from slide not shown to press or public) "A couple for 11 years... great partners... rarely apart... best of friends." Does that sound like a personal assistant? No.

AUSA Moe: When you're with someone for 11 years you know what they like. Epstein liked young girls. Epstein could not have done this alone. A single middle aged man inviting a girl to a ranch is creepy. That set of "alarm balls."

AUSA Moe: Maxwell as key - you saw photos how close they were. Let's look at those. [Not shown to press or public]

AUSA Moe: You are looking at Maxwell and Epstein swimming naked in a pool. [Not shown during closing - and otherwise redacted or withheld] Here she is massaging Epstein's feet with her breasts.

AUSA Moe: Look at this exhibit, GMax about lotions. [Not shown to press or public]. Here's Juan Alessi's testimony about washing off dildos and returning them to a basket in Maxwell's bathroom.

AUSA Moe: Let's turn to Annie. She was hoping to go to a good college. Kate, she was alone a lot. She was dazzled by this impressive woman who made her feel special. Jane has been sexually abused by family members; her mother was an alcoholic

AUSA Moe: Maxwell was hanging out with these girls alone. Annie told you when she got to New Mexico, she found herself along with Maxwell and Epstein. They were isolating these girls for a reason. They paid for Jane's voice lessons and tuition.

AUSA Moe: For Annie, it started with Maxwell telling her to rub Epstein's feet. For Jane, it was Maxwell topless by the pool and talking about boyfriends, escalating to sexualized massages on Jeffrey Epstein. Maxwell touched 3 of the 4's breasts [Three of the four survivor / witnesses]. Jane told you; Maxwell did it to Annie too. Annie wanted to get off the massage table. Maxwell touched these girls' bodies. It's not an accident. It happened again and again and again.

AUSA Moe: Jane didn't become Epstein's so-called god-daughter by accident. Maxwell is guilty.

Here's what they did to Jane. This is Jane. [Photo not shown to press or public.] You learned of years of sexual abuse.

AUSA Moe: There are documents. Here's Jane's application to Interlochen [not shown to press or public]. There are flight logs. [Not shown during closing, perpetrators' names redacted along with victims in version belatedly provided]

AUSA Moe: She saw Maxwell topless by the pool. You know that, because now you've seen Maxwell topless by the pool. Jane told you how Epstein walked her to the pool house and he started masturb*ting on her. [Etc - this is in, but flight logs redacted [Once US closing has already begun, the jury charge is finally put into the docket - Inner City Press will review it asap, or other can

AUSA Moe: You saw in Jane's face how hard it was for her to talk about this. She had to touch Epstein's pen*s. There were hands everywhere. There was horrifying group encounters with other women. It wasn't just in Florida, but also in NY but private jet [by private jet, and commercial flights too]

AUSA Moe: There weren't any scholarship boys. No selection criteria beyond being a pretty, young, vulnerable girl. Jane was 14 and 15 and 16. He was use vibrat*ors...

AUSA: Here's the massage room in New York [not being shown to press or public] [Just uploaded 1 hour video of search warrant executed on Jeffrey Epstein residents belatedly made available, onto YouTube

AUSA Moe: Jane told Matt she had a godfather, that she had to do things she hadn't wanted to do it. That there was a woman who made her feel comfortable. Matt told you, "there was a woman in the house who made her feel comfortable." You know that's Maxwell.

AUSA Moe: You heard expert testimony from Doctor Rocchio. She's an expert. She told you, victims are less likely to tell the closer they are to the perpetrator. Maxwell was like a big sister to Jane.

AUSA Moe: Jane named five women who participated in group sex: Emmy, Kelly, Eva, Sophie and Michelle. The defense tried to undermine Jane on Eva and Michelle. But Jane never gave the last name. The black book had another Eva, and three Michelles. It was a sideshow

AUSA Moe: Annie told you how when Epstein touched her on the movie theater, he stopped when Maria was looking. Annie then flew to New Mexico, her mother thought it was about a scholarship.

AUSA Moe: Maxwell started ratcheting things up. Maxwell wanted to show Annie how to rub his feet. You saw the photo of Maxwell massaging Epstein's feet with her breast. This was not part of a mentoring program.

AUSA Moe: Maxwell was trying to normalize sex, because she was a predator. Maxwell insisted on giving Annie a massage, and touched her breasts. It was not therapeutic. This is not on the list of spa treatments anywhere.

AUSA: Mulligan remembered that Annie told him that Maxwell had bought her a pair of cowboy boots, and touched her breasts during the massage. In 2006 Annie told the FBI the same thing.

AUSA Moe: Now let's talk about Carolyn. She was introduced by Virginia Roberts. This is the same girl that Juan Alessi remembered, how at Mar-A-Lago Maxwell told him to pull over and went to talk to her.

AUSA Moe: Carolyn said Virginia told her how to make money, giving a massage to a wealthy man. Then Virginia and Epstein started having sex in front of her. This is the massage room. [Not shown to press or public.] This was not a place for therapeutic massages

AUSA Moe: Here by the master bedroom is a drawing of a young girl pulling down her underwear. Maxwell understood what was happening in that case. This was the beginning of years of sexual abuse. Sometimes Sarah Kellen would call Carolyn.

AUSA Moe: The phone messages corroborate Carolyn's testimony. [Moe sites Government Exhibit 608, which is not among those belatedly uploaded yesterday.]

AUSA Moe: All of the masseuses are female. Who needs this many masseuses? The notes say, Mom, Dad. None of this was legitimate... Here's the employment record at Mar-A-Lago of Sky Roberts, Virginia's dad.

AUSA Moe: Here's an entry, "Melissa, Carolyn's friend." This proves that Maxwell is guilty.

[In the front row of the gallery, both Kevin Maxwell and Isabel Maxwell are leaning over, looking at exhibits that were handed to them - but withheld from press and public]

AUSA Moe: In 2002, Epstein paid Maxwell $5 million... So it's a total of $30.7 million. Ask yourself, what was Maxwell doing for Epstein worth that? Epstein wanted to touch underage girls. Maxwell knew what the money was for.

AUSA Moe: Virginia Roberts was 17 and flying on the jet with Epstein and Maxwell. Virginia brought Carolyn to the Palm Beach house, when Carolyn was 14. It was a pyramid scheme of sex abuse.

AUSA Moe: The defense tried to tell you when Maxwell dated Ted Waitt, she was no longer around Epstein. False - she was still the lady of the house. Look at this manual.

AUSA Moe: There were no boys on Maxwell's list. She slept in a bedroom with a bathroom with lotions, and another bathroom where the dildos were stored. And Epstein paid Maxwell millions of dollars. She knew. She was complicit. She is guilty.

AUSA Moe: Let's talk about the charges, six counts. [Note: CourtListener still does not have the jury charge, which was only docketed on PACER this morning]

[Note - even now during the closing argument, with all slides and demonstrative withheld, searching in PACER for the jury charge, doesn't seem it's there, just a six page cover letter.

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 18 (Day 13: Charging Conference)

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1414GMT

Today it's the Saturday "charging conference" to argue how the jury will be instructed before they deliberate on Maxwell's fate.

Judge Nathan: I have distributed my draft charge. Now we will discuss it.

Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: We say foreign commerce should be excluded. There's no evidence in the record about Ms. Maxwell enticing Virginia Roberts, only of Roberts enticing Carolyn.

AUSA: We're OK with removing foreign commerce from Counts 1-4.

[Note: Ghislaine Maxwell is here, sitting in the corner as ever with two (female) U.S. Marshals behind her, today in gray sweater.]

Judge Nathan: Mr. Everdell, help me find each "foreign commerce."

Everdell: We want it to say that Count 4 relates solely to Jane. With respect to Kate, there was no violation of New York law - she was above the age of consent. And Annie, whatever she may be claiming in New Mexico, there was no violation of law. So only Jane

Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: Annie and Kate are not victims of this conspiracy.

Judge Nathan: That's why there was a different limiting instruction.

Everdell: Traveling from Arizona to New Mexico did not have its object violating New York law.

AUSA: You're conflating the conspiracy and the substantive counts.

Judge Nathan: The [defense] objection is overruled. Page 15 adding "solely" between "relates" and the world "to." That is, "relates SOLELY to" Jane.

Everdell: Page 16, line 2 - also change that.

Judge Nathan: I will.

Everdell: Let's take out the word "minor," it creates a lot of ambiguity.

Judge Nathan: let's say, "individuals under the age of 18."

[Visual update: upon further reflecting, Maxwell's sweater may be green. Her brother in the front row of the gallery takes down his mask, takes swig of bottled water]

[Update: Maxwell's brother, reading from a cell phone, puts his mask back up.]

Everdell: We'd like to omit another "or foreign"

Judge Nathan: Done.

Everdell: We object to the word coerced, we'd like it removed.

[Bobbi Sternheim come from front table back to where Everdell is, next to Maxwell, and whispers in his ear, pointing at Judge Nathan's charge. A copy of a case is handed to AUSA Rohrbach]

Everdell: I can get you a typewritten proposed instruction, like the one given by Judge Rakoff in US v. Miller.

[Pause while Judge Nathan and AUSA Rohrbach and AUSA Maurene Comey read the case they've been handed]

Judge Nathan returns with a Federal Appendix case found by "my crack law clerks." It seems the 2d Circuit, to which Judge Nathan aspires, permits two different charges on "one dominant purpose."

Everdell: Page 24, we want it to say "Ms Maxwell" not "the defendant"

Everdell: We want the word "solely" on line 12.

Judge Nathan: Done. And I'll strike "and foreign" on page 25.

Everdell: There, we also object to the use of the language of the statute - we want a bracket.

Judge Nathan: I spent an inordinate amount of time on this

Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: here it says "between the US and a foreign country." That should be out.

AUSA: Fine.

[Note: Now it's Menninger huddling in the corner with Ghislaine Maxwell, who is speaking with her hands - whispering through mask but gesticulating]

Everdell: In the title, we'd like to change minor to person under 18.

AUSA: The indictment says "minor." But we are not seeking to send the indictment back with the jury.

Judge Nathan: So you are in vigorous agreement.

[Laughter among lawyers.]

[Note: Maxwell's lawyer Menninger has picked up her bag and coat and she's left the courtroom. Everdell is running the show on the jury charge, vs AUSA Rohrbach (though AUSA's Lara Pomeratz and Maurene Comey taking and passing copious notes)].

Everdell: With respect to Jane, we want to use the word "alleges." And here, we'd like you to simply eliminate the reference to age.

AUSA: We can remove age, let the jury decide Annie's age.

Everdell: We preserve our objection with respect to the topless massage.

1543GMT

Maxell's lawyer Bobbi Sternheim jumps in and gets a change. By contrast AUSA Lara Pomerantz passes a note to AUSA Maurene Comey, who reads it and passes it on to AUSA Rohrback, who's doing the speaking. He says, We're OK to cut "including at times Maxwell."

Judge Nathan: So we're taking Kate out of the overt acts. And, let's take a break. [This one is not for the jury - they're not here today]

Recess

1611GMT

Everdell: We want the "conscious avoidance" language out. The record shows people saying their ages. I need to break this into 2 pieces. There was testimony about multiple females being at the Palm Beach residence. But what ages did they look like?

Everdell: Mr. Alessi said he only saw two people who looked under age. Jane says she was 14 or 15 and we say no, she was older. Carolyn says, I was such and such age. But we say we made nothing to do with Carolyn.

Everdell: Maybe Mr. Epstein slipped in a couple of teenagers.

AUSA: Carolyn was told to say she was 18.

Everdell: Carolyn was told by Virginia to say she was 18. That doesn't have anything to do with Ms. Maxwell.

Judge Nathan: We're going to include it. Wait, I have a comment on my own draft. The "he" should be replaced with "she."

Everdell: There were witnesses with felony convictions. We'd like the Sand instruction on the credibility of witnesses.

AUSA: We're not aware of this instruction being given in this District.

Judge Nathan: I haven't given that instruction.

Everdell: Maybe on cooperators?

Judge Nathan: Looks like I have give it as a separate instruction, in US v. Berry

Everdell: We want the instruction that US but not the defense can offer immunity. One of our witnesses said they would invoke the Fifth.

AUSA: Virginia Robert could have been called by the defense --

Defense: I'm not referring to her. I'm referring to Sarah Kellen

AUSA Rohrback: We don't want in closing the argument about the empty chair and why the government is prosecuting.

Everdell: Let's turn to the verdict sheet. Take out the word minor, put in "individuals under the age of 17."

Judge Nathan: OK.

AUSA: We have one nit. Where it's supposed to be, Mark your verdict with a check mark, you actually use a "T" in parenthesis.

Judge Nathan (laughs) I don't know how that got in there. We'll fix it.

Judge Nathan: This should be a two hour closing.

AUSA Comey: But we have exhibits. So two and a half.

Judge Nathan: Can you do thirty for the rebuttal?

AUSA Comey: I'd ask for the court's indulgence for more

Judge Nathan: Thirty five minutes.

[So 5 hours and 35 minutes and the charge, short lunch, Judge says]

1652GMT

Judge Nathan: The charge is 80 pages. My favorite part of the job, reading the charge (laughs). It should take an hour. [So 6 hours and 35 minutes, plus breaks and lunch - can fit between 9 am and 6 pm, on Monday.]

AUSA Maurene Comey: To keep things confidential, during closings some exhibits will only be on the jurors' screen, not the public screen. We'll also turn the podium.

Judge Nathan: I will work on finalizing the charge.

[But will it go into the docket?]

Addendum: Maxwell stayed in the courtroom after some others left. Finally the two Marshals escorted her toward the prisoners' door - she stopped on the way and exchanged words with her brother, then continued to the door.

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 17 (Day 12) 🚔 Crime & Corruption 💸

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1412GMT

Defense is arguing to keep their case open until Monday for a final, 81-year old witness.

Judge Nathan: I'm letting in the documents about residence versus ownership. If I weren't, you might have a point. Is this deposition transcript new to you?

Maxwell's lawyer: She was deposed in a slip and fall case.

Judge Nathan: You'll provide the transcript.

Judge Nathan: I have a rule, you have your next witness or you rest. If otherwise the case closes today, it closes today. [Couldn't Maxwell's lawyers just do super-long direct examination? And what about the 3 day hiatus?]

Maxwell's lawyer: Also if the Marshals can produce another witness we've subpoenaed... The other witness, from the UK, if they will stipulate to it, there'd be no review.

Assistant US Attorney: The subpoenaed witness Kelly, we have no idea what she'd say. No stip.

Maxwell's lawyer Menninger: I understand your Honor wants to run this quickly, but it's a lot of work.

Judge Nathan (laughs) I understand that, Ms. Menninger. Give me a written application and a proposed order in half an hour.

Judge Nathan: There are also some 40 prior inconsistent statements. My colleague Judge Kaplan has helpfully set forth the standard. [He's the judge with Giuffre v. Prince Andrew before him, which Inner City Press is also reporting on]

Judge Nathan: Annie said she didn't remember a chef being there [on the Zorro ranch] but that it made sense to her, so not inconsistency. And the amount of horseback riding is a collateral issue.

Maxwell's lawyer: I think impeachment is for the truth [of the matter asserted]

Judge Nathan: That's way too metaphysical for me to handle right now. (Laughs).

Maxwell's lawyer: We'll have a law enforcement witness and we'd like to ask leading questions.

Judge Nathan: Truth comes out on direct. Start with that.

Maxwell's lawyer: I want to get to the absence of evidence, the lack of GPS given the age of the allegations.

Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: I wanted to ask the agent, that the complaint was first on one time frame then more recent, with Carolyn. I think that's relevant.

AUSA: The court has already ruled on this - the path of the investigation. Let's them raise it in closing.

Judge Nathan: Who's the first [defense] witness today?

Maxwell's lawyer: First Special Agent Jason Richards. Then we would have had Agent Young. Then [drumroll] Eva Dubin. [Former Epstein girlfriend who later married a(nother) hedge funder. She was asked to come at 11 am (1600GMT) but seems it'll be before.]

Well, Eva is a defense witness, testifying for and in favor of Ghislaine Maxwell (whose lawyers did not preview her as a hostile witness).

1530GMT

Jury enters [an hour late]

All rise!

Witness is Agent Jason Richards.

Maxwell's Pagliuca: Where are you based?

Richards: Miami. Before, Palm Beach.

Pagliuca: Let's turn to 2006.

Richards: I was in Unit PV-2. We investigated Epstein.

Pagliuca: Did you interview Carolyn - don't say her last name?

Agent Richards: I did.

Pagluca: Did you recall Carolyn saying she obtained Epstein's number from a phone book and that Epstein returned her call?

Richards: If that's what's in the 302 report.

Pagliuca: No further questions.

Cross examination.

AUSA: Do you show your 302s to those you speak to?

Richards: No.

Judge Nathan: Defense may call it's next witness.

Maxwell's lawyer: We call Agent Amanda Young.

Maxwell's lawyer: Agent Young, was your partner Detective Burns?

Young: Yes. We both check the 302.

Maxwell's lawyer: You just heard Ms. Comey's questions to Agent Richards. 302s are not transcripts, right?

Young: They are not.

Maxwell's lawyer: You interviewed Annie Farmer. About the boots, right?

Young: Yes. The boots were obtained by law enforcement this year. I don't remember which month.

Maxwell's lawyer: Read this.

Young: "In the beginning, Jane would be with her mother and brothers at the Epstein house."

Maxwell's lawyer (Menninger) - I want to turn to page 7. You wrote, Jane did not recall specific abuse that may have occurred in New Mexico

Maxwell's lawyer: Just to emphasize, the boots were discussed recently?

Young: Yes.

Cross examination.

AUSA: What did you do before?

Young; I interviewed children about child abuse.

1614GMT

Sidebar

[Agent Amanda Young sits in the plexi-glass witness box, in dark blue shirt, black jacket. They're back]

Judge Nathan: Jurors will disregard the statement about Agent Young's previous job interviewing children.

AUSA: Did Jane need more than one meeting to say what happened?

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection! Beyond the scope!

AUSA: I'll try another way. Who was there for the inverviews?

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection! Beyond the scope - I didn't ask about this.

Redirect:

Maxwell's Menninger: You used these notes with the grand jury, right? Young: Some of them.

Maxwell's Menninger: Did you show her the 302s?

Young. No. It's not ethical. It's not appropriate.

Maxwell's Menninger: You don't record them?

Young: Only those in custody. Not victim / witnesses.

Maxwell's Menninger: Are you familiar with the DOJ Obtaining Evidence protocols?

AUSA: Objection.

Judge Nathan: Overruled.

Menninger: I have a document, I can show it

Sidebar

1623GMT

Witness: I am Eva Andersson. I also go by Eva Andersson-Dubin. I live in NYC. I am 60.

Maxwell's lawyer: You are married to Glenn Dubin?

Eva: Yes. 28 years. We have 3 children: 27, 25 & 20

Maxwell's lawyer: Gender?

Eva: Female, male, female.

Maxwell's lawyer: What does Mr. Dubin do for employment?

Eva: He is self-employed. I was previously employed as a medical doctor.

Eva: I went to medical school in Stockholm, then UCLA. Then Lenox Hill Hospital in NYC.

Maxwell's lawyer: Did you know Mr. Epstein?

Eva: We dated off and on from 1983 until 1991.

[Note: it's reported that Virginia Robert Giuffre gave Eva a non-sexual massage then after Eva fell asleep, had intercourse with Glenn. Cross-examination?]

Maxwell's lawyer: Did you ever witness any sexual contact between Mr Epstein and --

AUSA Moe: Objection!

Sidebar

Maxwell's lawyer: Let me show you some photographs under seal. Is one person Mr. Epstein and the other one of your children?

Eva: Yes it's the 20. I've never seen this picture before.

Maxwell's lawyer: Let me ask you about flight records.

[These remain largely redacted and Inner City Press' challenge still not docketed - apparently under the theory that if it's denied, it's not a judicial document]

Judge Nathan: I'll give the jurors their mid-morning break.

Jurors exit and witness steps out

Judge Nathan: If there's something inaccurate in the media writ-large, like a blog post...

Judge Nathan: I sustain the government's objection [to asking about published flight logs] under 401 and 403. Now we'll take our break.

1648GMT

Recess

1711GMT

Jury returns

Maxwell's lawyer: Let's look at GX662r, the redacted flight logs of Dave Roberts. Can you see it Doctor Dubin?

Judge Nathan: Can we make sure it is redacted? If so it may be published

On the screen, flight with "JE, Eva Andersson" and Ms. Francis Jardine.

Maxwell's lawyer: Do you remember Francis Jardine?

Eva: I remember Francis, I didn't know her last name.

Maxwell's lawyer: You knew Mr. Epstein was dating her?

Eva: Yes.

Maxwell's lawyer: I'll show you sealed exhibit GX12... and now, only for the witness and court, unredacted Exhibit 662.

[Nothing shown on screen]

Eva: I recognize Sophie Biddle, a massage therapist... And I see my husband's name.

Maxwell's lawyer: Without saying the name that we are not saying, do you see it on the list?

Eva: Yes.

Maxwell's lawyer: Have you ever been in a group sexual encounter with Jane?

Eva: I have not.

Maxwell's lawyer: That's all I have.

Judge Nathan: Ms. Moe.

Cross examination.

AUSA Moe: Are you the only Eva in the whole wide world?

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection on relevance.

Judge Nathan: Overruled.

AUSA Moe: Did you ever discuss with Mr. Epstein his relationship with Ms Maxwell?

Maxwell's lawyer: Hearsay.

Judge Nathan: Sustained.

AUSA Moe: With respect, do you have issues with your memory?

Eva: I can't remember things from last month.

Maxwell's lawyer: This does not need to be discussed.

AUSA Moe: Nothing further.

No redirect.

Judge Nathan: Defense may call its next witness.

It's Michelle Healy.

She says: I'm 47, live in Dallas, as a housewife. My husband is an architect. My sister Shannon lives in Albuqueque. I grew up on Long Island. NY from 1974 to 1999.

Menninger: Where did you work in 1996?

Healy: J. Epstein and company.

Healy: I went to Zorro ranch, my sister was working there.

Maxwell's lawyer: Were you ever involved in any group sexualized massages with Jane?

Healy: Absolutely not.

1803GMT

Cross examination.

AUSA Comey: Are you the only Michelle in the world?

Michelle Healy: I hope not.

AUSA: Never flew on Epstein's plane?

Healy: No.

AUSA: Nothing further.

Recess

(Jury's out. Maxwell's lawyer pushing to have Nag's Head Pub witness testify on Monday)

Judge Nathan: I always say, I have so many bridges to cross. I cross the bridge that is in front of me.

Maxwell's lawyer: We want to put in property records about Stanhope Mews, too. They are self-authenticating.

Judge Nathan: What do we have after lunch?

Maxwell's lawyer: We'll try to work out the other stips.

Judge Nathan: So, no more defense witnesses? I'm going to spend my remaining lunch hour reviewing Kelly.

AUSA: If not Monday morning, it's too late.

Judge Nathan: It'll be a long break for the jury - try to confer.

1942GMT

Jury still not back. Judge Nathan said she intends to ask Ghislaine Maxwell whether she intends to testify. Now Maxwell is talking at length with her lawyer Bobbi Sternheim and others.

2014GMT

There was talk of a prosecution expert in rebuttal but that seems to have been let go. The only remaining issues before closing arguments: 1) asking Maxwell if she'll testify. 2) maybe subpoena-ed witness Kelly or 3) pub-man from UK. 4) charging conference.

Judge Nathan has returned, and AUSA Comey says, we have reached stipulations and we can wrap up the case today.

Judge Nathan: How long to read the stips?

AUSA Comey: 10 to 15 minutes.

Menninger: We ask you to take a notice of a 1996 case before 2nd Circuit Judge Chen

Judge Nathan: You've given Judge Chen an early promotion (laughs).

Menninger: The US leased a building to Epstein [had been Iran's consultate?]

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Ghislaine Maxwell Case Updates Dec 16 (Day 11)

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1401GMT

Judge Alison Nathan, who yesterday in DC forwarded her nomination to 2nd Circuit Court of Appeals, takes the bench & just begins ruling on the filings that built up over the 3 day hiatus (request for call in line amid Omicron and all flight logs still UNacted on)

Judge Nathan: About Doctor Loftus' testimony. The US seeks to exclude 2 aspects, her testimony on leading questions and therapists' techniques. I have ruled that these are generally admissible. I deny the government's motion to preclude.

Maxwell's lawyer Bobbi Sternheim: I didn't think there was a need to make this part of the public record.

[Talk, which we'll also anonymize, is about positive COVID test. But question: has the 3 day hiatus made a COVID impact on this trial more or less likely?]

Judge Nathan: I let a juror deliberate remotely...

Team Maxwell: Our first witness, Ms. Espinosa, has given us some photos of the soap opera of "Jane" [Maxwell doxing alert]

Maxwell's lawyer: In October 1996, where were you living?

Witness: I started out on the Upper East Side.

Maxwell's lawyer: I was hired as a lawyer for Jeffrey Epstein's company.

Maxwell's lawyer: Would you recognize Ms. Maxwell today?

Ms. Espinosa: She's over there, in what appears to be a PURPLE sweater. [Identification made] Maxwell's lawyer: Where else did you work?

Ms. Espinosa: Sometimes at Ghislaine's residence.

Ms. Espinosa: Did did have other personal assistants come through, like Sarah Kellen and Emmy Tayler.

Maxwell's lawyer: When did you see Sarah Kellen?

Ms. Espinosa: More toward the end.

Maxwell's lawyer: Can you describe the layout of the office on Madison Avenue?

Espinosa: You get off the elevator and there are the restrooms. Jeffrey's office was in the corner. I sat to the left of his assistant. My office was Ghislaine's office. We shared it.

Maxwell's lawyer: Did you sign a non disclosure agreement?

Espinosa: Yes.

Espinosa: Ghislaine ran the properties for Jeffrey Epstein.

Maxwell's lawyer: Where did she fall in importance?

Espinosa: She was obviously very important to me. And to Jeffrey, given his personal residences.

1521GMT

Espinosa: Jeffrey acquired a Paris apartment, and then an island. It was called Little St. James but got renamed, Little Saint Jeff's.

Maxwell's lawyer: Did you assist?

Espinosa: There was construction. I furnished the house, in a resort style.

Espinosa: We shipped in sand --

Maxwell's lawyer: You shipped in sand to a tropical island?

Espinosa: He wanted more sand on the beach. And palm trees. We even had a fire truck and fire men on the island.

Espinosa: Before Jeffrey would visit one of the residences, we would fly in the bread he liked. I think we did butter, too.

Maxwell's lawyer: What about Emmy Tayler?

Espinosa: She would take care of the dog, and carry Ghislaine's handbag.

Maxwell's lawyer: Did Ghislaine ever live with Jeffrey Epstein?

Espinosa: No.

Maxwell's lawyer: What about 44 Kinnerton Street in London?

Espinosa: Yes, I've been there. 3 years ago.

Maxwell's lawyer: Do you know who owned it?

Espinosa: No.

Maxwell's lawyer: Did Jeffrey Epstein receive female visitors in his office?

Espinosa: Yes.

Maxwell's lawyer: Look at this document & the person called "Jane." Do you recall seeing her in the office?

Espinosa: Yes

Maxwell's lawyer: How old did she seem?

Espinosa: 18

Maxwell's lawyer: Do you know if Jane traveled in Mr. Epstein's planes?

Espinosa: I don't know. She moved to California to be on a soap opera. It's my favorite soap opera. I have headshots she sent me. [doxing alert]

Maxwell's lawyer: We want to introduce these headshots into the records under seal, at least temporarily. I have copies for the jurors. Can you read the envelope?

Espinosa: It's from Jane to Cimberly [she pronounces her name Kimberly] It's headshots of the cast

Espinosa: Ghislaine and Epstein at that time were behaving like a couple. All flirty. It seemed like Ghislaine moved on. I know she started dating --

Assistant US Attorney: Objection! Lack of foundation.

Judge Nathan: Sustained.

1612GMT

Maxwell's lawyer: Who came to visit Jeffrey Epstein at the office?

Espinosa: Gwendolyn Beck.... Shelly Lewis... She was British.

Maxwell's lawyer: Moving on, when Ghislaine went to Florida, was it only Palm Beach?

Espinosa: Miami too. She had a friend there.

Maxwell's lawyer: Do you know who Ted Waitt is?

Espinosa: I learned. [Gateway co-founder]

Judge Nathan: We'll stop here for the mid-morning break.

Recess

1641GMT

Everdell: Do you know if Ms. Maxwell got married?

Espinosa starts to answer but AUSA objects.

Judge Nathan: Sustained.

Everdell: OK, when did you have a video conference with the government about this case?

Espinosa: November 2020.

Everdell: Why did you leave?

Espinosa: After 9/11 I wanted to return to California. I feel like Ghislaine was a good resource for my own career, what I learned, how to handle multiple projects at one time. It helped me get to where I am today.

Everdell: did you ever seen Jeffrey Epstein involved with young girls?

Espinosa: No.

Everdell: No further questions.

Judge Nathan: Cross.

AUSA: You never went to Palm Beach, right?

Espinosa: No.

AUSA: No further questions.

Next witness: Raghu Sud.

Everdell: Where do you live?

Sud: East Windsor, NJ. I work at Shopper's Travel since 1988. I am Vice President.

Everdell: Was Epstein a customer?

Sud: Yes.

Everdell: Can you authenticate these travel records? Yes.

AUSA: These records in RS-1, they are to 2006? Yes.

Everdell: No re-direct.

Next witness: Elizabeth Loftus, who testified for Harvey Weinstein. First, her credentials. This could take a while.

Loftus: I have a big CV. I have been consulted by DOJ, the CIA...

Maxwells' lawyer: Are there experiments on emotion and its impact on memory?

Loftus: I published one in 2008. We implanted entire flash events and measured responses.

Loftus: I've testified in 300 trials. I've only consulted with the prosecution 5 times, and testified only one for the prosecution. My research into false memory doesn't fit into their agenda.

1730GMT

Loftus is accepted as an expert witness in this case.

Loftus: Your Honor, can I used the equipment to show the jurors the three stages?

AUSA Pomerantz: No objection.

Loftus: The media is a source of post-event false memories, contamination.

Loftus (bragging) - And when I was consulting for Secret Service... [Wag Q: And when was that?]

Loftus has drawn a barbell, labeled "Acquisition - Retention - Retrieval." Now she says people might remember something as a dumbbell if it's labeled so

Update: Now Loftus has drawn a box under the bar of the barbell and has written in it the word "Time."

Judge Nathan: OK, we're going to take the lunch break. Jurors, enjoy your lunch.

Jury exits

1804GMT

Judge Nathan: I'll look at your submissions while I have my lunch.

Judge Nathan: We'll try to come to resolution before the jury comes back. Mr. Hamilton, you're going to confer on that, how to make it happen.

Maxwell's lawyer: If he's up to it

Recess

1910GMT

Maxwell's lawyer want to put in "prior inconsistent statement" of survivor witness Carolyn, after they finish the paid memory decay expert Loftus.

Judge Nathan: What else?

Maxwell's lawyer: The US' rebuttal expert, I'm prepared to file something if they actually call the expert.

Judge Nathan: Hamilton?

Everdell: We reached him, he can do WebEx tomorrow.

Sternheim: Because of his condition, we haven't spoken.

Jury enters Maxwell's lawyer: Dr Loftus, are you aware of image enhancing memory distortion?

Loftus: It makes people feel better about themselves.

Maxwell's lawyer: I asked you about C.V. So I move into evidence your C.V.

AUSA: Objection.

Judge Nathan: I am allowing in Dr Loftus' C.V.

Maxwell's lawyer: What are you charging?

Loftus: $600 an hour.

Maxwell's lawyer: Media distortion includes dramatic portrayals, right?

Loftus: Oh, yes.

Cross examination.

AUSA Pomerantz: Let's talk about consulting. You've done it with defense attorneys 100s of times, right?

Loftus: Probably.

AUSA: You've only consulted with the prosecutors five times, right?

Loftus: Right.

AUSA: In your book "Witness for the Defense," you wrote that you should be an advocate

Loftus: That leaves out the context --

AUSA: You don't sit in courtroom - you weren't present for testimony on this case, right?

Loftus: I was not present in the courtroom.

AUSA: You're charging the defendant $600 an hour right now, right?

Loftus: Yes.

AUSA: You were paid for high profile defendants, right? Millions of dollars?

Loftus: I don't know how much.

AUSA: In 1975 you didn't charge $600 a hour, right?

Loftus: I did it free.

AUSA: You market yourself by testifying, right?

Loftus: I don't market myself at all.

AUSA: You give lists of your cases to defense attorneys, right?

Loftus: When asked.

AUSA: You testified for Harvey Weinstein, right?

Judge Nathan: Just a moment.

[When they resume, there's no more mention of Harvey Weinstein. At least not yet.]

AUSA: When you testify for high profile defendants, it brings you more business, right?

Loftus: Maybe.

AUSA: You showed fake photos of Bugs Bunny at Disney, right?

Loftus: Yes.

AUSA: Bugs Bunny is Warner Brothers, but 16% misremembered, right?

Maxwell's lawyer: I object.

Judge Nathan: You can come up.

Sidebar

2005GMT

Lawyers return from sidebar.

Loftus: Some falsely remembered touching Bugs Bunny's head and him saying "What's Up, doc?"

AUSA: There's a science museum experiment, right?

AUSA: And the lost in the mall study - 25% misremembered, right?

Loftus: Correct.

AUSA: I'm not going to ask you to describe a rectal enema, but it's a painful procedure, right?

Loftus: Yes.

AUSA: This memory could not easily be implanted

Re-direct.

Maxwell's lawyer: There are restrictions on what kind of studies you can do, right?

AUSA: Objection.

Judge Nathan: I'll allow it.

Loftus: We can't implant memories of sexual abuse.

Next witness: Michael William Aznaran.

Maxwell's lawyer: We need a sidebar.

Judge Nathan: Wait for the break.

Maxwell's lawyer: Where do you work?

Aznaran: Customs & Border Protection. We check incoming people.

Maxwell's lawyer: Look at this sealed Exhibit GX12. Call her Jane. Did you search for this?

Aznaran: I did.

Maxwell's lawyer: And Kate and Annie Farmer, did you search for them?

Aznaran: Yes, I did the searches.

Maxwell's lawyer: So now we need the sidebar.

Judge Nathan: We'll get the jurors their afternoon break.

Jury exits

Judge Nathan: Mr. Azaran, could you step out?

AUSA: These are 15 years of records, including outside the charges time frame.

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An hour before it starts, SDNY says US v. Ghislaine Maxwell testimony starts today at 9 am [1400GMT] (and not the regular 9:30 am [1430GMT])

1440GMT

Jury finally seated, jurors being directed to binder of sealed non-public exhibits.

Assistant US Attorney Rohrbach: The government calls William Brown of the NYS Dept of Motor Vehicles.

AUSA: Are you aware how people receive ID cards?

Brown: Yes.

AUSA: Please pick up the folder next to you, [sealed] government exhibit.

Judge Nathan: I will admit these exhibits under seal.

AUSA: Look at Defense Exhibit LD3A, it's in the front of the binder. How old in 1996 was this person, born in 1985?

Brown: 11 years old.

No cross examination. Next witness.

AUSA: The government calls Annie Farmer.

Clerk: Spell your name.

A: ANNIE FARMER.

Judge Nathan: I instruct you that the physical conduct you will hear about in New Mexico was not "illegal sexual activity." But it may be relevant, but not of propensity.

AUSA Pomerantz: Please take out sealed exhibit 13.

AUSA: In what state were your born?

Annie Farmer: Missouri.

AUSA: Where did you get your PhD?

Annie Farmer: University of Texas at Austin.

AUSA: How old were you when Maxwell gave you a massage?

Annie Farmer: I was 16.

AUSA: What were your family's finances?

Annie Farmer: My parents were divorced. I was worried how college would be paid for.

AUSA: Do you have an older sister?

Annie Farmer: Maria. She's 9 years older. She was living in NYC. She was working with Jeffrey Epstein.

AUSA: How did you travel to NYC?

Annie Farmer: Jeffrey Epstein paid. I was excited to see my father. Jeffrey Epstein had said -

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection! Hearsay!

Judge Nathan: Sustained.

AUSA: What did your sister say to you about the trip to NY?

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection - hearsay.

AUSA: Effect on the listener.

Judge Nathan: Is this was we discussed? I'll let it in, within a scope. And I'll tell the juror this is not offered for the truth.

1500GMT

AUSA: Who did you thank for your ticket?

Annie Farmer: Epstein --

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection! Hearsay!

AUSA: I'll move on. Did you meet Jeffrey Epstein?

Annie Farmer: Yes. Twice during this trip.

AUSA: Show the witness, the parties and the court Gov Exhibit 101.

AUSA: What is this?

Annie Farmer: My high school yearbook photo. [Photo shown on screen - should be made available later]

Annie Farmer: Epstein's home was very grand.

AUSA: What did Epstein ask you about?

Annie Farmer: My plans. He suggested UCLA and said he had connections.

Annie Farmer: He suggested I go on an international trip to boost my application.

Annie Farmer: We went to see the movie "Five Monkeys." [12?]

AUSA: Where did Epstein sit?

Annie Farmer: Between us. Then he rubbed my leg.

AUSA: What was your reaction?

Annie Farmer: I was very surprised. I felt sick to my stomach.

Annie Farmer: When Maria would look over, he would stop. Then begin again.

AUSA: Did you tell your sister?

Annie Farmer: No. I was confused. I knew she was protective, I knew she would be upset, she might lose her job. So I decided not to say anything.

AUSA: Did you write in your journal?

Annie Farmer: I did.

AUSA: Please describe your journaling.

Annie Farmer: I was not a consistent journaler but I would sometimes write down what was happening in my life.

[Journal entry shown on screen]. Annie Farmer reads from it including about going to see Phantom of the Opera, champagne with Epstein. Then, a later entry: “We went to the movies with Jeffrey Epstein. I was weirded out, he let go of my hand when he was talking to Maria”

AUSA: How did you feel about Epstein as you wrote this?

Annie Farmer: I was conflicted. I knew it was not normal or right. But I was trying to make it seem OK.

Annie Farmer journal continued: I am thinking of doing something in Africa. It would be incredible.

1520GMT

AUSA: Where did you next see Jeffrey Epstein?

Annie Farmer: New Mexico.

AUSA: Who did you think you'd be seeing there?

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection - [lack of] foundation.

Judge Nathan: Sustained.

AUSA: When you landed in New Mexico what happened next?

Annie Farmer: There was a man with a sign with my name on it. He drove us to the ranch. There, I met Ghislaine Maxwell. She was slim and attractive, in her 30s. She was an adult.

AUSA: What did she sound like?

Annie Farmer: She had a British accent... I had been told that Maxwell would be there in New Mexico and it made me more comfortable, after what happened in New York.

AUSA: Who told you Maxwell would be there?

Annie Farmer: My mother.

AUSA: What did you and Maxwell talk about?

Annie Farmer: My life, my school, British authors.

AUSA: Did you leave the ranch?

Annie Farmer: Yes, a nature food store. Maxwell bought me henna. A western wear store, cowboy boots purchased for me.

AUSA: What did you think of the boots?

Annie Farmer: They cost over $100 dollars. I was grateful, gracious. We went to the movies. I didn't want to go because of what happened in NY. But I thought it would be different with Maxwell there.

AUSA: For how much of the movie did he touch you?

Annie Farmer: Most of it. He didn't hide it. And afterward back at the ranch, Maxwell told me to rub his feet, that she'd show me how... Later Maxwell told me to get undressed and started rubbing my breasts.

Annie Farmer: I wanted to get off the table, I wanted out of there. The door was open and I had the sense Epstein could see. In the morning Epstein came into my room and said he wanted to cuddle. He climbed to bed with me. I didn't like it.

AUSA: Did you tell him?

Annie Farmer: No. There was no one else around.

AUSA: What happened?

Annie Farmer: I went into the bathroom and shut the door. I waited.

AUSA: Where did you go in 1996?

Annie Farmer: Thailand and Vietnam, cultural immersion.

[Photo shown on screen of Annie Farmer and another with a small elephant with a wooden seat on it]

AUSA: Who paid for the trip?

Annie Farmer: Epstein.

AUSA: Any more contact with Maxwell and Epstein?

Annie Farmer: No.

AUSA: Who did you first tell?

Annie Farmer: My mother, generally.

AUSA: What did you tell your mom?

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection!

1550GMT

Sidebar

[The lawyers go up to whisper with Judge Nathan. Maxwell remains alone at the defense table, today in an orange or pink sweater, rubbing her arms]

1556GMT

AUSA: Did you tell anyone else?

Annie Farmer; I had a boyfriend and I told him.

AUSA: Did you speak to the media?

Annie Farmer: Many times. First in 2002.

AUSA: Law enforcement?

Annie Farmer: 2006-07. To the FBI.

AUSA: Have you spoken with the media since?

Annie Farmer: Yes. Off the record in 2016 and on the record in 2019.

AUSA: Were you paid for the interviews?

Annie Farmer: No.

AUSA: Were you interviewed by law enforcement in NY?

Annie Farmer: Yes. In 2019. In the fall I sued Epstein and Maxwell.

AUSA: Did you participate in the Epstein victims compensation fund?

Annie Farmer: Yes. I was awarded $1.5 million. My lawyers were pro bono.

AUSA: Any financial stake in the outcome of this trial?

Annie Farmer: No.

AUSA: No further questions.

Judge Nathan: Cross examination.

Maxwell's lawyer Laura Menninger: Good morning. Your sister is the one who arranged your travel to NY?

Annie Farmer: Yes.

Menninger: You told the FBI that flying alone was not abnormal for you, correct?

Annie Farmer: I usually had my younger sister with me, when I flew to visit my father.

Menninger: Here's the report.

Annie Farmer: I see it.

Menninger: Ghislaine Maxwell had no role in your travel to NY, right?

Annie Farmer: She did not.

Menninger: You believed that Mr. Epstein purchased your plane ticket?

Annie Farmer: Yes.

Menninger: You also saw the Blue Man Group and went to a flea markets with your sister, correct?

Annie Farmer: Yes.

Menninger: In NY, Ms Maxwell didn't take you to the Lion King, correct?

Annie Farmer: She did not.

1617GMT

Recess

1652GMT

Now Maxwell's lawyer Menninger continues digging into NY trip, the lack of Maxwell, other pages of Annie' journal. Expect Loftus on memory lost in defense's case.

Menninger: You wrote about a cross country skiing trip and going to see bands and a bar...Significantly, you really talked about your emotions after returning from NY, what a great time you had there.

Menninger: So in your journal, you said what Epstein did in the movie theater was not weird, correct?

Annie Farmer: I was struggling.

Menninger: So you are only calling it weird in hindsight. You are viewing what happened in NY in light of what happened in NM?

Menninger: Let's go to Exhibit 604, the last journal entry you gave to the government for this case?

Annie Farmer: Yes.

Menninger: And you never gave the government the full journal, right?

Annie Farmer: Right.

Menninger: You researched when Primal Fear came out then fit your memory to it?

Annie Farmer: I wouldn't say it that way.

Menninger: You communicated with a journalist and told him you'd research the release date of Primal Fear, right?

Annie Farmer: Yes.

1728GMT

Judge Nathan: We're going to break for lunch.

Jurors leave.

Judge Nathan: Any issues?

No.

Recess

1820GMT

As we return to the courtroom, Maxwell is chatting with her lawyer, smiling, then sitting with her chin in her hands. Still no Judge Nathan.

Cross continues.

Maxwell's lawyer Menninger: On direct you didn't mention it, but there was a cook on the ranch as well, right?

Annie Farmer: I have no memory of that.

Menninger: And you didn't see the big glorious Zorro ranch at that time, right?

Annie Farmer: No.

Menninger: You mentioned the boots. But on the trip you spent a significant amount of time horseback riding.

Annie Farmer: Is that a question?

Menninger: You told the FBI that in 2006, right?

Annie Farmer: Yes.

Menninger: Are these the boots?

Annie Farmer: Yes.

Menninger: I move for admission of the boots.

Menninger: So you decided to wear the boots, even when you knew they were evidence. You wore them frequently?

Annie Farmer: I didn't wear them to work. I wore them when I was two-stepping.

Menninger: So you wore the boots Jeffrey Epstein gave you when you danced

Menninger: So in the movie theater there was no touching of your genitalia or private parts, was there?

Annie Farmer: No.

Menninger: And you said you were naked for the full body massage. But you only told the journalist you had no bra on-

AUSA: Objection!

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1448GMT

New US witness is Tracy Chapell of FedEx.

AUSA: What is this?

Chapell: It's from Jeffrey Epstein's FedEx account.

AUSA: We want it sealed.

Judge Nathan: Granted.

Chapell: It's an invoice.

AUSA: Under seal.

Judge Nathan: Yes.

The sealed invoices are from 2002; the redacted version, on the screens, are illegible. Now cross examination.

Maxwell's lawyer: Look at [sealed] Exhibit 806.

Maxwell's lawyer: So this package was to Carolyn. But it was not from Ghislaine Maxwell, correct?

Chapell: It is not.

Maxwell's lawyer: There is no other transaction on this invoice where Ghislaine Maxwell is sending a package to someone named Carolyn, correct?

Now Maxwell's lawyer is putting forward an exhibit under "temporary seal." [Temporary until when?]

Maxwell's lawyer: I have no further questions for this witness.

Assistant US Attorney: We need an session with your Honor in the robing room.

Judge Nathan: An extended sidebar?

AUSA: It would need to be in the robing room.

Judge Nathan re-takes the bench. No summary given of what the robing room discussion was about.

Judge Nathan: Please bring in the jury.

1533GMT

Judge Nathan: There is an attorney in the case who is ill and needs treatment. It is not COVID related but we are going to break for the day.

Court Adjourned

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1444GMT

Starting late due to juror with slow MTA subway, day after US announced it will or may rest its case this week.

Judge Nathan: We still have to wait for our juror who has substantial train issues. I'll step down off the bench.

Clerk: All rise!

Juror has arrived, 45 minutes late.

All rise!

Next witness: Janine Gill-Velez of Florida Property Management (that is, Mar-a-Lago).

Assistant US Attorney: How long have you worked at Mar-A-Lago?

Gill-Velez: 15 years.

AUSA: So this is exhibit 823-r, redacted [for the public]. It's a personal action notice, the hiring of Sky Roberts in April 2000. [That is what the US wanted to establish, the hiring of Sky Roberts. So now, cross-exam]

Maxwell's lawyer Bobbi Sternheim: But you have no personal knowledge of the hiring, correct?

Gill: Correct.

Sternheim: No further questions.

1525GMT

Judge Nathan: Next witness, "Shawn."

Judge Nathan: This witness will testify only as Shawn, to protect anonymity of previous witness [Carolyn]. No exact likeness in drawing.

Witness: I'm S-H-A-W-N. That sealed exhibit has my full name.

AUSA: How old are you?

Shawn: 38. Some college. I'm a salesman.

AUSA: What was the first name of your girlfriend?

Shawn: Carolyn. She was 14, I was 17. We dated four or five years. She worked at Arby's, and she worked for Jeffrey Epstein.

AUSA: How did she meet Epstein?

Shawn: Through Virginia Roberts.

AUSA: What's the difference between Palm Beach & West Palm Beach?

Shawn: Money --

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection!

Judge Nathan: Sustained.

AUSA Maurene Comey: Did you go to Palm Beach much?

Shawn: No. I didn't have enough money to buy anything in the gas station there

AUSA: How long did Carolyn stay in Jeffrey's house?

Shawn: An hour. Or an hour and five minutes.

AUSA: How were the session set up?

Shawn: They would call my phone: Sarah and a lady with a foreign accent. One was English and one almost French.

AUSA Comey: Did Carolyn mention anyone else?

Shawn: Maxwell. She couldn't pronounce the first name.

AUSA: Did she get a gift?

Shawn: From FedEx. Lingerie and a movie. From New York.

AUSA: Did you go to Epstein's with anyone else?

Shawn: Melissa and Amanda Laslow

AUSA: How old was Amanda when you saw her go to Epstein's house?

Shawn: 15.

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection!

AUSA: How old was Melissa when she went to Epstein's house?

Shawn: 16. She came out with hundred dollar bills.

AUSA: Were you arrested in Louisiana?

Shawn: Yes, possession of meth. And felon in possession of a firearm. Now I'm a salesman.

1552GMT

Now cross examination by Maxwell's lawyer Jeff Pagliuca

Pagliuca: Shawn, you went to Epstein's house in 2002, correct?

Shawn: Yes.

Pagliuca: And it was Sarah who called you and gave you her name, right?

Shawn: Correct.

Pagliuca: You met the government, for example in July 2022, and said the accent was French.

Shawn: It was foreign.

1605GMT

Next witness: Nicole Hesse, worked at Epstein's and Maxwell's Palm Beach home in 2003.

AUSA Moe: What was your job?

Mrs. Hesse: Take care of the home. I was hired by Ghislaine Maxwell.

Judge Nathan: I'll give the jurors their morning break.

1618GMT

Recess

1703GMT

Jury finally back & US introduced exhibits - under seal.

AUSA: In this sealed exhibit, do you see that Carolyn called Epstein's house?

A: I do.

AUSA: Now that we're looking at this [sealed] Government Exhibit, it says "Carolyn," right?

A: Right.

Next witness is Epstein's second pilot, Mister Rodgers.

AUSA: Who did you work for until 2019?

Rodgers: Jeffrey Epstein. As a pilot, since 1999. I was hired in Columbus, Ohio.

Rodgers: We mostly flew between his houses. From 1991 he had a smaller plane, then a Gulfstream. Then a Cesna 421 followed by the Boeing 727...

AUSA: On the Gulfstream, what divider was there?

Rodgers: A door, always closed.

Rodgers: I kept a log book. Including passenger names.

AUSA: We offer the log book - as a sealed exhibit.

NOTE: Rodgers' log book, as shown on the screen, has the entire column of passenger named redacted or blacked out.

Press question: Is there really a reasonable expectation of privacy for flying on the private jet of a pedophile?

AUSA: How did you find out the names of the passengers?

Rodgers: Sometimes we'd be told.

AUSA: Would you always know?

Rodgers: No.

Rodgers: We were flying to Traverse City, Michigan.

Judge Nathan: We'll take our lunch break now.

1758GMT

Recess

1916GMT

Jury's set to come back in, Ghislaine Maxwell in red sweater sidled over to whisper in lawyer's ear. FINALLY, jury back in their chairs.

AUSA: Mr. Rodgers, please turn in your binder to GX 12. Without saying the name out loud, is that the name of a passenger on Mr. Epstein's plane?

Rogers: Yes.

AUSA: Let's look back at sealed exhibit 662, at page 44. Flight number 916... Who drove passengers to the plane in Palm Beach?

Rodgers: Juan Alessi.

AUSA: And this flight?

Rodgers: From Palm Beach to New Jersey. Jane was on the flight. By first name.

AUSA: Are there others on the flight?

Rodgers: Yes.

AUSA: Let's move to another flight. [Who else was on not disclosed, nor asked on direct]

AUSA: Flight 818.

Rodgers: Van Nuys CA to Santa Fe NM, only Jeffrey on the flight.

AUSA: How many times do you remember Virginia Roberts flying on Jeffrey Epstein's planes?

Rodgers: Thirty two (32) times.

AUSA: This flight to St. Thomas - were Jeffrey Epstein, Ghislaine Maxwell and Virginia Roberts passengers??

Rodgers: Yes.

AUSA: And was there one other person on the flight?

Rodgers: Yes.

AUSA: Let's move to another flight [The additional passenger UNdisclosed]

AUSA: And this flight?

Rodgers: From Spain to Tangier, Morocco. [Epstein and Maxwell on the flight]

1955GMT

Now cross examination of pilot David Rodgers.

Maxwell's lawyer: Sometimes the cockpit door would be open and you could see the passengers, right?

Rodgers: Correct.

Maxwell's lawyer: And you did that sometimes, yes?

Rodgers: Yes.

Maxwell's lawyer: You never found in the cabin any sex toys or used condoms, right?

Rodgers: No I did not.

Maxwell's lawyer: Isn't it common to own private planes through companies, one company per plane to limit liability, right?

Rodgers: Yes.

Judge Nathan: Let's take our mid afternoon break.

[What is being accomplished by this cross examination?]

2029GMT

Recess

2052GMT

They're back, with Maxwell's lawyer Everdell still flaying around on cross examination.

Everdell: Mr. Rodgers, you know the real name of Jane, don't you?

Judge Nathan: Without saying it.

Rodgers: Yes.

Everdell: But Epstein had an assistant with the same first name as Jane's real first name, didn't he?

Rodgers: Yes. [Note: This is another way of outing or doxing]

Everdell: And Eva Dubin was on this flight, and her husband is a hedge fund manager who was an Epstein client?

Rodgers: I don't know.

Everdell: So these trips to Columbus, Ohio, that's where Leslie Wexner lives, right, the owner of The Limited?

Rodgers: Yes.

Everdell: And Mr. Wexner is a billionaire, Jeffrey Epstein's client?

Rodgers: Yes.

Everdell: And you never saw Annie Farmer in your planes, or your logs?

Rodgers: I did not.

Everdell (after a time): I though it was later than it is.

Judge Nathan: It just feels that way.

Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: Now Mr. Visoski --

Judge Nathan: It's Mr. Rodgers.

Everdell: [Uncomfortable laugh]

2200GMT

Now at the end, more on scheduling.

Judge Nathan: I would prefer to not do the charging conference Friday (in 9 days) in case you don't have a case going that day... Given the expedition of the Government's case, maybe we can use Friday for charging.

Judge Nathan: I'm comfortable letting the defense begin its case on Thursday (in 8 days). The result may be that the jury has (this) Friday off as well.

[Things are moving FAST...]

Court Adjourned

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1415GMT

Lawyers' arguments about witnesses learning what's been said in court the previous day. The issue will have to be decided by Judge Nathan.

Maxwell's lawyer Menninger: My request is to find out what was communication to him by Jane, before he gets on the stand in front of the jury. He was shown a document Jane was asked about.

Judge Nathan: Which one?

Menninger: The Interlochen [school] application

Assistant US Attorney: Jane told him, The defense lawyer is an expletive.

Menninger: But what else did she tell him?

Judge Nathan: He shouldn't testify until after lunch.

And now a sealed sidebar discussion, not public now nor apparently ever. Feed will resume when they return & jury enters.

Sidebar

1438GMT

Jury Enters

AUSA Maurene Comey continues direct examination of FBI witness about search of Epstein's Manhattan mansion.

AUSA Comey: Who do we see in this photograph?

FBI witness: Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

AUSA Maurene Comey: Now let's turn to the [non-public] binder. What is it?

FBI witness: A photo from the investigation.

AUSA Comey: We offer it under seal.

Judge Nathan: It is sealed.

After a brief cross examination (you don't know when the photos were taken, do you?) next US witness is Stephen Flatley, FBI "CART" coordinator, digital forensic examiner and Quantico instructor.

AUSA: What is this?

Flatley: A hard drive I examined in this case.

AUSA: What is the "registered organization" for this computer hard drive?

FBI's Flatley: GMax.

AUSA: And this e-mail?

Flatley: From gmax1 [at] mindspring dot com. She says, I need to know what list John is using. No water in black Merc. No pens. Pool deck filthy

Flatley: GMax wrote, The massage creams in J.E.'s bathroom were a mess.

AUSA: We offer Exhibit 418 under seal.

Judge Nathan: Admitted under seal.

AUSA Pomerantz: And this document?

FBI's Flatley: It's by G-Max. It is about "massage lotion products." [For those asking, it's dated Sept 7, 2002]

Now Flatley is reading notes about Ghislaine, written by GMax, including "Jeffrey and Ghislaine really compliment each other, they are great partners." Also, "they are boyfriend and girlfriend unlike what some may think."

AUSA Pomerantz: No further questions.

1550GMT

Now the cross examination.

Maxwell's lawyer Laura Menninger: You don't know if anything was changed in the course of the copying, do you?

FBI's Flatley: I suppose I don't.

Menninger: And could you find out if GMax was in the same place as the computer?

And with a whimper and not a bang, Flatley is done.

Judge Nathan: Members of the jury, we'll take our mid-morning break.

Recess

1631GMT

Next witness: survivor Carolyn, testifying by first name only.

Assistant US Attorney: Carolyn, how far did you go in school?

Carolyn: Seventh grade. My mother was an alcoholic. I got introduced to Mr. Epstein to give him a massage. I said OK.

AUSA: How old were you?

Carolyn: Fourteen (14)

AUSA: Who greeted you?

Carolyn: Ms. Maxwell.

AUSA: What did she look like?

Carolyn: An older lady. With an English accent. I couldn't pronounce her first name correctly so I called her Maxwell.

AUSA: How much money did you get?

Carolyn: $300, in hundreds.

AUSA: How much did Virginia Roberts [Giuffre] get?

Carolyn: I don't know.... Maxwell asked me for my phone number.

1653GMT

AUSA: What would Maxwell ask you when she called?

Carolyn: If I'd be available when they flew in. They asked me to travel overseas. I said there was no way my mother would say OK.

AUSA: Did you tell Maxwell how old you were?

Carolyn: I told her I was fourteen.

Carolyn: Maxwell came in and felt my boobs. She told me that I had a great body for Mr. Epstein and his friends.

AUSA: How did that relate to your breast and hip size?

Carolyn: She said I had a great body. [Witness sounds like she is about to cry.]

AUSA: When you were naked, who would come in the room?

Carolyn: Mr. Epstein. First I would massage him. He would ask about my upbringing.

AUSA: Would Ms. Maxwell ever pay you?

Carolyn: Yes. She handed me three one hundred dollar bills.

Carolyn: Maxwell said Jeffrey wanted my address. I got sent lingerie, concert tickets and a book called "Massage for Dummies."

AUSA: Did you bring friends to Jeffrey Epstein's house?

Carolyn: Amanda Laslow, one year older than me.

Carolyn: Also Tatum and Julie... He asked me to bring younger people. I told him I don't hang out with younger people but there were some people I could ask. When I bought them I got paid $600 and she got paid $300.

AUSA: What did they do?

Carolyn: Sex and oral sex.

AUSA: What did you do with the money they paid you?

Carolyn: I was buying drugs. [Now, witness is sobbing.]

AUSA: You need to say it into the microphone.

AUSA: Then what major event?

Carolyn: I had a baby.

AUSA: Did you go back to Jeffrey Epstein's house?

Carolyn: Yes. I had gone there while I was pregnant --

AUSA: I'm asking about after you had the baby.

Carolyn: I needed the money. But I realized I was too old.

Carolyn says she had a son (whose father's first name she says in court) on March 12, 2004. She says she returned to Epstein's house after that because she needed the money. She stopped going because she realized she became "too old."

Q: How old were you?

A: 18.

AUSA: Did you later pawn an X-Box that wasn't yours?

Carolyn: I did. I did jail time. Then I did drug treatment and therapy. I take methadone and Xanax. And two others.

Carolyn: I am constantly afraid of my children being trafficked.

AUSA: Are you in touch with the father, Shawn?

Carolyn: No, not since the X-Box pawn shop thing.

AUSA: Have you worked for an escort service and had sex with men for money?

Carolyn: Sometimes.

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AUSA: What did Maxwell do to you?

Carolyn: She took pictures of me nude, and the stuff with Epstein.

AUSA: Who decided who you would sue?

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection!

Judge Nathan: Sustained. [To Carolyn, who was speaking] Don't answer, when I say Sustained.

And now, cross examination by Maxwell's lawyer Jeffrey Pagliuca.

Pagliuca: Sean was a friend of Virginia Roberts' boyfriend Tony, right? And you all smoked marijuana together and drank alcohol?

Carolyn: We didn't drink any alcohol.

Pagliuca: Virginia Roberts told you you could make $300?

Carolyn: No.

Pagliuca: When Roberts approached you about making this $500, Maxwell was not there, correct?

Carolyn: It was me & Virginia.

Pagliuca: Maxwell was not involved in the conversation, right?

Carolyn: Right.

Alert: Ghislaine Maxwell's lawyer Jeff Pagliuca just said the last name of this witness. Inner City Press caught it in time and is not tweeting. But AUSA Comey said nothing, nor did the Court.

1753GMT

Judge Nathan: We'll break here for lunch. Members of the jury, you have your lunch. We'll break.

Recess

1920GMT

Maxwell's lawyer Pagliuca is cross-examining survivor Carolyn who testified Maxwell paid her $300 to have sex with Jeffrey Epstein.

Pagliuca: Look at the notes the FBI took during your interview, about a lady with short black hair and an "unknown" accent. They didn't cut you off, correct?

Carolyn: That was a bad day for me. I was not expecting the FBI to come to my home.

Pagliuca: You knew what a British accent was, but you said "an unknown accent," right?

Carolyn: The day that you're talking about --

Pagliuca: I'd ask the Court to make her answer.

Pagliuca: So for the 2d visit to Mr. Epstein's house, you sat in the kitchen and spoke with the chef, right?

Carolyn: I don't remember if it was the 2nd visit or after.

Pagliuca: Show the witness what she said in 2007.

Carolyn: The FBI didn't ask me about Maxwell.

Pagliuca: Are you saying the FBI limited what you could say?

Carolyn: They didn't ask me about Maxwell.

Pagliuca: But you told the FBI about Sarah and the Incubus tickets from Epstein.

Carolyn: Yes.

Pagliuca: And you moved from Florida to Georgia.

Carolyn: Yes.

Pagliuca: I want to talk about the lawsuits you filed --

Carolyn: What does that have to do with me moving to Georgia?

After Pagliuca asks Carolyn again and again about FBI 302s and lawsuit paragraphs, Judge Nathan declared the afternoon break, having said she'll be addressing objection now out of the presence of the jury.

Judge Nathan: Let's pick up the first factual paragraph.

Pagliuca: We argue the entire complaint is inconsistent, by omission. She mentions Sarah Kellen and not Ms. Maxwell.

AUSA Maurene Comey: This was a lawsuit against 2 defendants - there was no reason that 3rd parties would be in.

Judge Nathan: I'm letting it in.

Just before the jury comes back in, AUSA Comey asks how long the cross examination is going to be, it's already been longer than the direct. No answer.

2108GMT

Jury Enters

All rise!

Pagliuca: Do you recall abusing drugs from the age of 13?

Carolyn: If you call pot drugs, yes.

Pagliuca: So you went to Georgia to detox, right?

Carolyn: No. I went to Georgia to escape traumatic events in my life.

Paugliaca: Let's talk about your claims of sex with Epstein. Isn't it true you used cocaine while you were at Mr. Epstein's house?

Carolyn: No.

Carolyn: What does any of this have to do with what I'm here for today? Ghislaine Maxwell fondled me and broke my soul --

Pagliuca: Move to strike.

Judge Nathan: Carolyn, you have to follow my rules. Jury will disregard.

Pagliuca: You received these funds from the Epstein Compensation Fund --

Carolyn: No amount of money will ever heal --

Pagliuca: Move to strike.

Judge Nathan: Jury will disregard. I instruct the witness to comply with the rules.

Pagliuca: You claimed you saw a photograph of Ms. Maxwell pregnant, correct?

Carolyn: Nude and pregnant. That was on multiple --

Pagliuca: No further questions.

AUSA Maurene Comey: Three minutes. Did you write your legal complaint?

Carolyn: No (crying)

AUSA Comey: What year was it when you were 13?

Carolyn: If I do the math, yes.

AUSA Comey: Are you here to get money?

Carolyn: No, what she did is wrong, she took young girls --

Pagliuca: Objection.

AUSA Comey: What year was it when you were 13?

Carolyn: If I do the math, yes.

AUSA Comey: Are you here to get money?

Carolyn: No, what she did is wrong, she took young girls --

Pagliuca: Objection.

Judge Nathan: Jurors, we're two minutes over. See you tomorrow.

Clerk: All rise!

Now government says: We will be resting this week (!)

They'd said five to six week trial - this is a big change. Now Judge Nathan floats a charging conference on Saturday the 18th. US just said they may be resting their case THIS WEEK - that is, after two weeks instead of the five to six weeks they projected.

Judge Nathan: I have inquired and we could get Ms Maxwell here on a Saturday, and open the overflow courtroom.

Again: Why no listen-only call-in line, as existed even today in US v. Steve Bannon in DDC?

Judge Nathan: I remind you, one word objections only.

Court Adjourned

The prosecutors said they'd put on four victim / survivor witnesses and they just finished with their third. Plus, they just said they won't call as a witness Jane's brother Bryan. Still, from five weeks down to two weeks is a big change.

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1409GMT

Before the jury comes in, Judge Nathan is reading rulings on exhibits.

Judge Nathan: The pictures on the wall [of Epstein's massage room] risk prejudice and distracting the jury. They should be redacted. The other photos, of vibrators, the court will exclude.

Judge Nathan: I will also exclude the photos of the "creepy animals" Jane testified to. The tigers, for example, are highly idiosyncratic. The school girl uniforms may be admissible, depending on the testimony.

Judge Nathan: For exhibits the jury has, the public should get the redacted version.

Judge Nathan: So when the jury comes out, what would you like me to tell them?

Maxwell's lawyer: That the parties have reached a stipulation about the last witness and that to not to call him back we will read in the stipulation.

AUSA: Uh, could we have a sidebar?

Judge Nathan: Bring the jury in.

Jury Enters

Judge Nathan: Please be seated. You may recall the last witness from Friday, the parties have a stipulation. Mr. Everdell?

Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: It is hereby agreed by US Attorney Damian William and Maurene Comey etc of counsel and Ghislaine Maxwell that the witness would have said that the cardboard box was found in the closet of a guest bedroom had items unopened. Def Exh B.

Assistant US Attorney: The government calls "Kate."

Judge Nathan: The witness testifying under the name Kate may come forward. [Adds notice to sketch artists to not be accurate.]

AUSA: Jurors should pick up their binder and turn to Exhibit 16, under seal.

AUSA Pomerantz: Kate what's your work?

Kate: I work with women who are victims of trauma.

AUSA Pomerantz: What did you do before?

Kate: I was a musician and singer.

AUSA: How did you meet Ms. Maxwell?

Kate: I had a boyfriend who introduced me to her in Paris.

AUSA Pomerantz: When did you next see Ms Maxwell?

Kate: A few weeks later. I went to her home for tea. I saw a photo of her with a man with salt and pepper hair.

AUSA: Did you find out who it was?

Kate: Jeffrey Epstein.

AUSA: So where did you meet Epstein?

Kate: At Maxwell's townhouse. She invited me over. Jeffrey Epstein was in sweat clothes speaking on the phone very loudly. Maxwell told him I was surprisingly strong for my size. He asked for a massage; he said he liked it.

Kate: Then Maxwell told me that the massage therapist had canceled and that I should give him the massage since my hands were too strong.

AUSA: Did she comment on how often Epstein needed massage?

Maxwell's lawyer: Objection - leading.

Judge Nathan: Sustained.

1508GMT

AUSA: What was Epstein wearing?

Kate: A robe. He took it off.

AUSA: What was he wearing under?

Kate: He was naked.

AUSA: Was Maxwell there?

Kate: Yes

AUSA: Did Epstein initiate sexual contact with you?

Kate: Yes. Then Maxwell said, How did it go? Did you have fun?

Kate: Later Maxwell told me to find someone to give Epstein a blowj*b. She said he needed to have sex 3 times a day.

AUSA: When you first met Maxwell and Epstein what was your understanding of their relationship?

Kate: I thought they were boyfriend and girlfriend.

Kate: Maxwell told me she was friends with Prince Andrew, Donald Trump. The names would just come up in conversation.

AUSA: What gifts did you receive from Maxwell?

Kate: A small black Prada bag for my 18th birthday.

AUSA: After sex with Epstein?

Kate: Yes, after.

AUSA: Were you given clothes to wear at Epstein's Palm Beach house?

Kate: Yes, a school girl's outfit with a short skirt, white panties and white socks.

AUSA: Did there come a time you stopped communicating with Epstein?

Kate: Yes. In my late 20s.

AUSA: Were you compensated by the Epstein Victim's Fund?

Kate: Yes.

AUSA: Are you planning to sue Maxwell?

Kate: No.

Judge Nathan: We'll take a break now, jurors.

1547GMT

Recess

1639GMT

Now Maxwell's lawyer Bobbi Sternheim cross examination of Witness Kate:

Sternheim: You had a beautiful mother, didn't you?

Kate: Yes.

Sternheim: And your step father was rich and you lived in the Belgravia section of London, didn't you?

Kate: Yes.

Sternheim: You were an international model?

Kate: I was a model.

Sternheim: You were dating an older, prominent gentleman who was an Oxford classmate of Ghislaine, correct?

Kate: Yes.

Sternheim: You were a model for a UK version of Victoria's Secret?

Kate: No. The company failed almost right way.

Sternheim: But you were a lingerie model?

Kate: Yes.

Sternheim: You were in a piano bar and were discovered by the musician Seal, right?

Kate: No.

Sternheim: But you said that. You acted in movies?

Kate: I did not have speaking roles.

Sternheim: You were in a movie with a very well known UK actor, correct?

Kate: Yes

Sternheim: You spoke publicly, in your own name, in this courthouse, right?

Kate: Yes.

Sternheim: You were invited by a judge in this courthouse, Judge Berman, to speak, and you spoke, right?

Kate: Yes.

1700GMT

Sternheim: And you've spoke with Virginia Roberts Giuffre?

Kate: Yes.

Sternheim: You used drugs for 10 years, right?

Kate: Yes.

Sternheim: And you dated other men, right?

Kate: Yes, I dated men.

Sternheim: And you even married one of them?

Kate: Are you asking me if I've been married?

Sternheim: And you were with a prominent restaurateur?

Kate: I was with a man who owned 2 restaurants.

Sternheim: Didn't a tabloid encourage you to get a man connected to the royal family to buy cocaine?

Kate: Not exactly.

Sternheim: And that became a big tabloid spectacular, right?

Kate: I suppose.

Sternheim: When were you last in contact with Epstein?

Kate: 30s.

Sternheim: Give me a date.

Kate: I don't have a date.

Sternheim: How old are you?

Kate: 44.

1744GMT

Sternheim: Aren't you trying to get a victim's visa? Isn't this your name?

Kate: My visa application is based on extraordinary ability.

Sternheim: Which one?

Kate: Music teaching to treat trauma.

Sternheim: Any unlicensed music coach can get it?

Sternheim: Nothing further.

Judge Nathan: Re-direct?

AUSA: Let's take the lunch break.

Judge Nathan: OK.

1750GMT

Recess

1907GMT

The jury is finally back in, for re-direct of still pseudonymous witness Kate, starting with her award from the Epstein victims' fund.

Next US witness: Patrick McHugh of JP Morgan Chase: "I'm an officer of the firm. I can speak to who is authorized to access accounts and the like."

Assistant US Attorney names a slew of financial exhibits and calls them public exhibits.

Pending getting all these exhibits, the current one shows a wire transfer involving Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell for $7,400,000, JPM Chase and BONY Mellon.

Now JPM's McHugh is being asked about helicopter purchase. The exhibits as shown on the screens are blurry - will have to wait to get access to legible copies.

Maxwell's lawyer: This document doesn't show who approved it, right?

McHugh: Yes, the statement does not

Next witness is FBI's Ms. Kelly McGuire, Special Agent.

AUSA: What is this?

Agent McGuire: The front view of the resident [at 9 E. 71 Street]. When there was no response, we forced our way in.

AUSA: Did you come across the massage room on the third floor?

McGuire: We, we did. This photo, 902r, is the entrance to the massage room.

AUSA: And 903r?

McGuire: It's the massage room.

[The pictures on the wall are redacted, in the public exhibit]

McGuire is done. Judge Nathan asks if the US has a short witness (for the next 10 minutes). Now starting: another FBI agent.

AUSA: Does each FBI investigation have its own number?

Agent: Yes.

AUSA: Did you review CDs in 2020?

Agent: Yes, with Amelia Young.

AUSA: We offer into evidence this photo of Jeffrey Epstein and Ghislaine Maxwell.

Judge Nathan: We'll break for the day. Jurors, have a good night. Counsel? Anything we need to take up?

Maxwell's lawyer: We object to the photo of our client lying on a boat.

2158GMT

Court Adjourned

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1411GMT

Before Jury Enters

Maxwell's lawyer: Seeing semen on the table is going to be prejudicial.

AUSA: It was a white stain. It is entirely probative as to whether these massages were just messages or were in fact sexual.

Judge Nathan: I would permit lab tests

Assistant US Attorney: The fact that Mr. Epstein had a collection of school girl uniforms is relevant.

Maxwell's lawyer: This has little connection to Ms. Maxwell and is prejudicial.

AUSA: School girl costumes, small ones, were found in the massage room.

Maxwell's lawyer: They should not be described as school girl uniforms.

AUSA: I'll just lay a foundation then ask the witness about them.

Judge Nathan: You could say, Without describing them, did you find these items.

Maxwell's lawyer: The interior and art work changed, by 2019. The witness we call "Jane" said it was creepy, with drawing of monsters on the walls and naked women. We think these photos should be excluded. The photos of nude girls in the massage room

Judge Nathan: Maybe there's a way to position two screens, and only show them to the jurors. I'll ask Ms. Williams to ask the A/V people. Can show video so that only the jurors can see it, and no one else? We'll see. Please bring in the jurors.

Jury Enters

Judge Nathan: Mr. Alessi, you may return to the stand.

Jury enters. All rise!

Maxwell's lawyer: Mr. Alessi, you said you are called Juan but don't you sometimes say, "I am John"?

ALessi: I am John, in English.

Maxwell's lawyer: Ms. Maxwell speaks Spanish and called you Juan. You did not take it as an insult, no?

Alessi: No, I did not.

Maxwell's lawyer: You took $6300 dollars, right?

Alessi: Yes.

Maxwell's lawyer: But didn't you lie - when you stole twice, in fact?

Alessi: I did not lie.

Maxwell's lawyer: Didn't you try to steal a gun? Didn't you steal over $5000 to pay for the immigration papers of your girlfriend?

Alessi: It was not my girlfriend.

Maxwell's lawyer: Police Officer Dawson questioned you?

Alessi: No, I went to him.

Maxwell's lawyer: You told him you went in to steal a gun.

Alessi: I don't recall.

Maxwell's lawyer: You might have said it, but now you don't recall?

Alessi: That's it.

Maxwell's lawyer: And you went back once again to steal money?

Alessi: I did it one time & I think that is what I told the police.

Maxwell's lawyer: You went through the sliding glass door and stole $5600 from Mr. Epstein's briefcase, $100 bills in a white envelope?

Maxwell's lawyer: Show the witness 3504-002, deposition transcript. I move for admission under Rule 801.

[Note: "(A) is inconsistent with the declarant’s testimony & was given under penalty of perjury at a trial, hearing, or other proceeding or in a deposition]

Maxwell's lawyer: You stole $6000, when you owned properties valued at $1 million.

Alessi: I sold those properties, to buy the property for the multi-family.

Maxwell's lawyer: Let's look again at 3504-002, deposition page 145.

[Note: During all this, Ghislaine Maxwell is leaning back and even masked, seems pleased with herself. When first we practice to deceive...]

Maxwell's lawyer: I'm having trouble seeing in here.

1502GMT

ALERT: Maxwell's lawyer has just openly said the real name of one of the pseudonymous survivor witnesses.

Judge Nathan: Your are admonished to abide by my rulings.

AUSA: May we approach?

Sidebar

1505GMT

Maxwell's lawyer pointedly says, "Mr. Alessi, you testified about when JANE met Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell."

Alessi: In this testimony I mistook the two --

Maxwell's lawyer: In 2016 you were directed to the name JANE and you said No

Now Maxwell's lawyer is cross examining Juan Alessi about Epstein's Palm Beach house. Unclear what Judge Nathan will do about Team Maxwell repeatedly blurting out the real names of pseudonymous survivor(s).

Maxwell's lawyer: Do you see the notation, new moldings in the bedrooms?

Alessi: Yes.

Maxwell's lawyer: And during construction, no one live in its?

Alessi: No, during part of it Mr. Epstein and Ms. Maxwell lived there.

Maxwell's lawyer: You were asked if JANE was driving and you said you never saw Jane driving a car. Those are all questions about Jane, right?

Alessi: I think so.

Maxwell's lawyer: Let's take the break.

Judge Nathan: OK.

Recess

1615GMT

Maxwell's lawyer: I'm asking about what you [Alessi] said --

AUSA: We ask for the whole thing to be read.

Maxwell's lawyer: So you say, Summer, I remember, I was sweating like hell in the car waiting for Ms. Maxwell to come out of the car.

Maxwell's lawyer: Mr. Alessi, didn't you keep a Rolodex of the girls?

Alessi: No, of the massage therapists.

Maxwell's lawyer: You got referrals for massage therapists?

Alessi: No sir.

Maxwell's lawyer: You said, One of Jeffrey Epstein's friends would say, I got a good massage and you'd say, please give me the answer.

Alessi: I never -

Maxwell's lawyer: You previously said this under oath. May I continue your Honor?

Judge Nathan: Yes.

Maxwell's lawyer: Isn't it true that Mr Epstein bought other women to the house and told you to remove the pictures of Ms. Maxwell from the house?

Alessi: I did what he told me to do.

Maxwell's lawyer: Why did you THINK you were taking Ms. Maxwell's picture down, when Mr. Epstein had the other women over?

Alessi: I have no idea.

Maxwell's lawyer: Mr. Alessi, as Mr. Epstein's direction you called women and set up massages, correct?

Alessi: Yes.

Maxwell's lawyer: And that doesn't make you guilty of sex trafficking, does it?

Assistant US Attorney: Objection!

Maxwell's lawyer: And when you cleaned the massage room, you have saw signs of violence, right? No one complained to you of that?

Alessi (voice rising): No but I wish they had, I would have done something.

[Some laughter]

[Programming note, as Alessi ends - some may not believe his statements that he didn't know, or especially the claim near the end of cross examination that if only the victim has complained, he would have acted. Some, it seems, found that laughable. Discretely]

AUSA: No re-direct.

1659GMT

Judge Nathan: Next witness.

It's Gregory Parkinson, questioned by AUSA Maurene Comey. The topic, we believe, will be search of Epstein's home. But first, his credential and career. This could take a while.

Parkinson: I participated in a search in Palm Beach.

AUSA Maurene Comey: What is this?

Parkinson: A map or aerial view.

AUSA: Had you been there before?

Parkinson: Yes, on a report of a theft of currency. I met Mr. Jeffrey Epstein.

Now before it gets into what was found during the search - Judge Nathan calls the lunch break; A/V will set up screens only jurors can see.

1726GMT

Recess

1856GMT

They are showing the jurors a video of the search warrant reading (and execution?) at Epstein's house. But we the Press and public can't see it.

AUSA Maurene Comey: at 1 minute, where are we?

Parkinson: In the 3 car garage

Assistant US Attorney Maurene Comey: What do we see here, during the search?

Officer Parkinson: A picture of Pope John Paul with Jeffrey Epstein.

AUSA Maurene Comey is still telling the jurors to look at one seal exhibit after another, now Government Exhibit 225.

AUSA Maurene Comey: I ask that Government Exhibit 234 be admitted, under seal. Also 241, under seal.

Judge Nathan: Granted. Under seal.

Finally, some exhibits not under seal.

AUSA Comey: What is this, in Exhibit 228?

Parkinson: It's the Garden Room.

There are photos spread out all over the floor, but no details can be made out.

2013GMT

AUSA Comey: I'd like the jurors to look in their binders at Exhibit 255... Oh witness only. I ask that Government Exhibit 278, the master bathroom, be under seal to protect privacy [???]

Judge Nathan: We'll take our break, snacks are here.

[Yes, snacks were cited]

Now even Judge Nathan says US has gone too far in sealing entire 39 minute video, says some portion should be made public.

AUSA Maurene Comey: We'll work on that.

2034GMT

OK, the jurors are back from snacks break.

AUSA Maurene Comey: Let's turn to Government Exhibit 278.

Parkinson: It's a bathroom with a phone and a pink, three cushion couch. And that's a portable inflatable massage table.

We're back to mass-sealing: AUSA Maurene Comey: I ask to admit Government Exhibit 285, under seal, and "direct the jurors' attention to that writing."

Finally: Parkinson comes out of the witness box and touches Government Exhibit 51..."the green massage table."

AUSA Maurene Comey: We offer this [massage table] into evidence. I ask that the exhibit be published for the jury by setting the table up

Parkinson: Now the table is in an open position.

Exhibit 51a: Photo of massage table on its side.

AUSA Comey: Where was it manufactured?

Parkinson: Vista, California.

AUSA Comey: No further questions.

Judge Nathan: Mr. Everdell, you may cross.

Maxwell's lawyer Everdell: You previously investigated a burglary there, correct? Parkinson: True.

Everdell: And Mr. Epstein said that several thousand dollars had been stolen, right?

Parkinson: True.

Everdell is jumping around with his questions, laughing uncomfortably now. He asked Parkinson about an exhibit - sealed - that is Epstein's desk and the photos on it.

And with that, without apparently landing a punch, Everdell's cross examination of Parkinson is over.

Judge Nathan: You may step down, Mr. Parkinson. You are free to take your flight.

New US witness, starting at 4:38pm (2138GMT) on Friday: Michael Dawson, Palm Beach PD

2138GMT

AUSA: What were you looking for, during the search?

Dawson: Massage tables and oil. Sex toys. There were a lot of photos of nude females. We seized a phone book, a massage table, photo of a nude female, a sex toy called the torpedo

[Flashes on screen & is gone]

Now cross examination, starting at 4:49 pm (2149GMT)

Maxwell's lawyer: I'm going to prove up an inconsistent statement.

Judge Nathan: Confer first.

After a time, Maxwell's lawyer: We need a sidebar.

Sidebar

Now the questioning turns to Juan Alessi's admission of stealing from Epstein. But it's 4:59 pm (2159GMT). Cross examination interruptus?

Judge Nathan: We're done for the week. Obey my instructions. Oh and by the way, we will not sit Dec 13, 14 or 15... Why, is not explained. Some letters due Sat & Sunday, both at 8 pm (0100GMT). All rise!

Court Adjourned