you are wrong. One day you might understand
You keep saying its fucked but you are the one advocating for murder. You seem oblivious to that or are willfully ignoring it.
Agree to disagree. And no one said she has to raise the child.
You didnt answer my question. What if she wanted to keep it?
Try to make your point without my input
But you would terminate every pregnancy created from rape regardless of the childs age so why does the age matter? Is it less egregious to you if the child is older? Is there an age where you would think twice about terminating? And also for arguments sake, what if she did want it? Would it be wrong to let her carry it?
Ill say it again. You are trying to get me to say something that will help you prove some "point"
there are undoubtedly some people who will answer in a contrary way tbereby disproving your "point"
My answer is irrelevent
You are stuck thinking subjectively and seem unwilling to move past it
Because the alternative is murder. Are you in favor of killing the 10 year old to alleviate her suffering. Its essentially the same thing
Still humoring you but you havent made your point. Why should someone have to die just to (possibly) alleviate someone elses suffering
Put it up for adoption.
Except the is no murk. Killing a baby because you dont want it is always wrong.
Some people find strengrh in overcoming suffering
Why does that matter? If you need me to answer in a particular way so you can make your point then you have to see why your subjective reasoning is wrong. What if i said i had been raped and raised the baby and it was the best decision i ever made. Someone somewhere will have this position. You have to elevate your thinking.
The premise is flawed. If you happen upon the trolley and know how to work the swirth and the switch is unlocked then you should try to derail it. As far as morals and ethics.. you should always endeavour to do the least amount of harm. But that is subjective and you are not faulted no matter what you choose to do because you didnt create the situation and bear no responsibility
Yes i have. But you are totally missing the point
Not to thread jump but... The trolley problem is bunk
The only solution is to try to derail the trolley by switching tracks mid way..
Relative to the permanent termination of a life, pain, however long it lasts, is transitory.
thats the point you are missing. my subjective experience is irrelevant. so is yours. lots of people suffer and are stronger for it. and yes their experiences are subjective and irrelevant too. you are citing subjective experiences, but only the ones that argue your point. there are other subjective experiences that argue the opposite. ALL of them are irrelevant though because they are subjective. murdering an innocent baby is objectively wrong.
No. patently false that pain is permanent.
your argument that is more painful to be forced to carry a baby to term is subjective. As I said, some women have kept and raised babies created by rape.
The murder of an innocent child is objectively wrong.
What do you mean? that it patently false.
you have to try to understand. your procedure to prevent some temporary pain to the women is the permanent murder of someone else. an innocent
Billions of women have survived pregnancy. It is one of their primary bioligical functions.
Rape and incest babies are tragic but the baby is innocent and should not suffer for the crimes of the father.
If it helps just realize that the forcing the woman to carry to term is a part of the crime commited againat her. Some women chose to keep their rape babies and raise them too
i like this. ive been mulling over a meme slogan myself. perhaps someone here could help me flesh it out. im thinking a reboot of the
my body my choice
something like
dead baby no voice
or
two bodies one voice
what do you guys think?
the only thing f'ed up is your inability to understand that whatever the suffering the person is undergoing it doesnt justify the murder of an innocent.
I have tolerated your profanity, but you keep saying the same thing repeatedly while ignoring the actual issue. if you have some rational argument that does not involve insulting me and trying to shame me into agreeing with your untenable views that by all means provide it. otherwise i think i will leave it at that. best of luck.