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Taking the flu shot
posted 5 years ago by Ross072566 5 years ago by Ross072566 +21 / -0

My wife is 54 and in good shape and is wondering if she should take the flu shot. She hasn’t taken it in 9 or 10 years. And when she did she always got sick after getting the shot. Thoughts?

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– FudgyFudgeBots 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

I worked in a busy ER for 20 years. I saw about as many positive flu cases that had the flu shot as those who didnt. Every year they make an excuse and say the reason it didnt worked is because they guessed the wrong strain. The next year they beat you down again to get the flu shot which never works.

What is does do is trigger autoimmune disorders if you are pre disposed (if you have a family member with an autoimmune disorder, you are at risk)

The flu is misery for a few days but in healthy people the body does what it is designed to do and it rids the body of it. If you develop an autoimmune disorder, its for a lifetime.

Keep in mind, the vaccine industry is a HUGE money maker for big pharma. They cannot be sued if you are harmed so they have no incentive to make a good product that works well. Not tp mention that there is no way to prove the flu shot does or doesnt work.

I would never take it and I would never recommend that my family take it.

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– impera 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

In terms of what has been normal for flu shots over the last 20 years at least, they are never effective against what strains are active in any given season. So at best they dont seem to have any positive. For negatives if they make your loved ones ill it seems silly, and there are potentially lots of other harm that they can do.

Its a pretty bizarre industry - imagine selling a car that never ran, food that was always inedible, appliances that dont work. And having this expectation of a 100% fail rate to be normal. And to counter the basic human instinct to abandon an otherwise useless and value-free product line, a massive media machine to fear-monger about risks in not taking it, coupled with a massive political machine bribing doctors to push this while at the same time silencing and marginalising detractors. Really messed up.

The legal angle is also unique, that the makers have zero liability against any harm done. No other product has this. If you knew nothing else about disease stats, success rates, etc this fact alone is an ironclad predictor that it will be a low-quality product, since now there is no legal incentive to spend the extra research, testing and manufacturing $ to make it safer. So the drug companies can make it as cheaply as possible. Which means it will be needlessly dangerous, just like any other product that abandons safety standards.

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– FudgyFudgeBots 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Well said!!!!!!

Im saving your post for distribution amongst the gullible masses.

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– impera 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Its one of these things that ought be self-evident right, but people are kept bombarded and confused with so much disinfo and hysterics about vaccines that its hard to take a step back from the deluge and approach the issue pragmatically.

As others have said here, your own immune system is the best thing that exists in fighting off the bugs, but it needs to be fed the right constituent pieces to keep its effectiveness. Vit C, D3(especially in winter), a multi with lots of mineral supplements, and basic fitness, healthy eating and sleep patterns and that's the majority of the bugs that will never take. The ladies get more iron deficient than guys too, especially as they get older so that's also one to look at.

Best wishes to you & yours, stay healthy and safe!

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– geotus45usa 6 points 5 years ago +6 / -0

Take vitamins instead. C, D. Etc

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– user6395 4 points 5 years ago +4 / -0

Vitamins plus minerals:

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/31305906/

I take green tea too (matcha powder), ZH had a useful article:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2020-08-08/green-tea-zinc

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epigallocatechin_gallate

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Quercetin

I eat onions too, but drinking green tea is easier than eating raw onions. These are just supplements or diet, the easiest strategy versus having to deal with drugs or needles etc.

Flu shots, flu vaccines all poke our immune system to get a response. I've read somewhere that flu shots target the strains that are predicted to be prevalent in a given year, so they do not cover everything either. Antibodies go down after a few months, and currently it looks like Covid-19 vaccines are only good for about 6 months, maybe less. No silver bullets.

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– ancroidubh 3 points 5 years ago +3 / -0

Three of us in two households in this small family.we’ve taken the flu shots for decades. Minor changes irritation for a day at the injection site and no flu for years. I am pretty attuned to what my body is saying and I can feel it fighting off the flu. I’ll get a headache, a few sneezes and a slight fever for a day and then... nothing. It’s the eighth sacrament here.

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– dakinnia 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

Don't take it until Trump recommends it. That will be a safe one.

Regeneron is probably an anti-aging, rejuvenative, improve everything miracle drug.

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– djmarcone 2 points 5 years ago +2 / -0

You can do all the other stuff here and also a Zinc Ionophore, there are some out there like Quercetin Zinc. Puts the zinc into the cells better like HCQ does.

I wouldn't get the flu shot myself but that's just me.

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– BornAgainAmerican 1 point 5 years ago +1 / -0

No

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