The problem is their justification for it stems from "it's just a clump of cells".
Very early on, of course that's true -- and we as a society haven't agreed exactly when an unborn baby is considered as having a soul, which complicates things on a certain level too.
The best middle ground is up to first heartbeat, but you have people on both sides ready to loudly yell that that isn't far enough their way so conversation doesn't go anywhere and meaningful change isn't made.
And I guess that's part of the problem. The uniparty deep state has pitted us so thoroughly against each other that it has to be one way or the other way, and only my way is the right way. We don't get true non-partisan or bipartisanship anymore. We don't genuinely work together because we hate each other's values.
We can't even come together under love of country anymore.
It's actually really upsetting if you get deep into it.
The only points of reference I can think of is how Islam and Judaism approach abortion and the issue of human soul. Very generally both agree to 40 days from conception, although some Islamic views permit it up until 120 days.
I think the biggest clue is how women feel and act when they have an early miscarriage - that tells us what we know in our hearts - that this was the hope and beginning of a baby, whatever we might tell ourselves to justify an action we wanted or needed to take. Its all really really sad, and the most important thing is not to let it foster hate :(
We're essentially the only species that self police. If gorillas, bears, or pandas eat their young it is nature, but with people we call it murder.. A soul is a social construct to someone who doesn't believe it exists. That's the real issue: strictly biologically there is nothing wrong with abortion. You have to convince people to believe in the social construct, whether it be because of religion or ethics.
I'm in the minority and don't feel government should legislate biological processes. Without abortion, poverty and crime would be several times worse. I can't imagine what the end phenomena is. If a drug addicted prostitute doesn't abort, the child's only actual chance at a serviceable life is adoption.
Rich, white couples with fertility issues would usually rather spend a few hundred thousand dollars on IVF to have their own children instead of adopting. Tell me how that is noble? You literally have to kill embryos multiple times to get one to stick and survive.
The problem is their justification for it stems from "it's just a clump of cells".
Very early on, of course that's true -- and we as a society haven't agreed exactly when an unborn baby is considered as having a soul, which complicates things on a certain level too.
The best middle ground is up to first heartbeat, but you have people on both sides ready to loudly yell that that isn't far enough their way so conversation doesn't go anywhere and meaningful change isn't made.
And I guess that's part of the problem. The uniparty deep state has pitted us so thoroughly against each other that it has to be one way or the other way, and only my way is the right way. We don't get true non-partisan or bipartisanship anymore. We don't genuinely work together because we hate each other's values.
We can't even come together under love of country anymore.
It's actually really upsetting if you get deep into it.
The only points of reference I can think of is how Islam and Judaism approach abortion and the issue of human soul. Very generally both agree to 40 days from conception, although some Islamic views permit it up until 120 days.
I think the biggest clue is how women feel and act when they have an early miscarriage - that tells us what we know in our hearts - that this was the hope and beginning of a baby, whatever we might tell ourselves to justify an action we wanted or needed to take. Its all really really sad, and the most important thing is not to let it foster hate :(
We as a society have agreed that there is no such thing as a soul... We don't live in the middle ages...
We're essentially the only species that self police. If gorillas, bears, or pandas eat their young it is nature, but with people we call it murder.. A soul is a social construct to someone who doesn't believe it exists. That's the real issue: strictly biologically there is nothing wrong with abortion. You have to convince people to believe in the social construct, whether it be because of religion or ethics.
I'm in the minority and don't feel government should legislate biological processes. Without abortion, poverty and crime would be several times worse. I can't imagine what the end phenomena is. If a drug addicted prostitute doesn't abort, the child's only actual chance at a serviceable life is adoption.
Rich, white couples with fertility issues would usually rather spend a few hundred thousand dollars on IVF to have their own children instead of adopting. Tell me how that is noble? You literally have to kill embryos multiple times to get one to stick and survive.