17.7 even the Bernie, which has obviously been manipulated doesn't stand out that much, I know that 17 is an important number to Q, but I'm fairly new at this, why th .7?
bernie won't stand out as it's most likely from a file that's been reuploaded and compressed over and over, thus pushing it to it's minimum error level. Check out the tutorials on the website.
Post #771 (mirrored of the clock)
15-Feb-2018 2:28:16 PM EST
8ch/greatawakening
@Jack
Civilian Puppet.
Player in the game?
We play for KEEPS.
Need help sleeping?
How was your meeting w/ Pelosi?
Protection offered?
Life Lesson: Be smarter than those controlling you.
T-minus [12:34]
Q
Thanks! This is a first check type thing, there are many many other types of analysis that can be applied to photos and some can reveal hidden information. The process of hiding information in an image file is known as steganography, and there are many many tricks to hiding information. It can be tricky to find data sometimes!
Further, we can expect the bernie portion to have already met its minimum error level, so we should expect it to blend right in. However, the most recent edit is clearly the clock area.
well, i'm doing the same actually on many pics in Q posts lately, almost sure somewhere there's something hidden for us..
Dunno, may be nothing, i'm no expert on patches, but this is something else that captured my attention, the patch on right looks like from SF, the one on the left instead it doesn't
Have you checked the original picture for the same kind of editing? I'm copying a comment from another post, below, with the link to the USSC page. Seems like the filename there might be relevant also? Comparing the bernie version to the original is probably worth the effort, maybe other things were added besides the bernie?
The original pic is up on spacecom.mil, with a link to "download hi-res". The maga.host link below is that download, a 3.6 meg jpeg ( 201209-F-SO188-0010.jpeg, 5552 x 3422 ). It looks like the same pic to me but there might be things added besides the bernie meme? 188? 881? 10, 100?
Desaturating the image can help with determining a light source. When looking at an image in only grayscale values, inconsistencies with plotting cast shadows can indicate incongruent light sources. If people are outside, they are all illuminated by the sun. The person whose shadows, don't follow the sun is the one who is out of place in the photo. Low sat Bernie is lacking chroma because of atmospheric perspective outdoors and being shot from a distance. Indoor photos would be full saturation as they are closer to the film plane.
There is actually a simple explanation for this! The portion of the photo with bernie has been compressed more! Thus pushing it to the minimum error level. Think of it like this- each time a photo is reuploaded or resaved it goes through a compression process, unless it is saved in a lossless format. Eventually the photo cannot be compressed anymore, this is the minimum error level. The most telling thing here is that the most recent edit and compression event to any portion of the photo IS the clock area.
I don't think that's quite accurate. Jpeg compresses images by breaking the image up into small boxes, and then for each box, finding a set of weights to use to sum a set of known reference images such that the sum approximates the original box. Storing those weights takes up a lot less space than the individual pixels.
If you save an image as jpeg and then re-save it again without modification, the image won't degrade much after the first save because all the information that couldn't be represented as a sum of weighted reference images is gone, and what's left is the data that can be accurately represented as those weights.
If you manipulate the image, though, such as change the resolution or shift pixels around, the resulting bitmap may lose information again when converted to a jpeg. Also, if you take a highly compressed image, modify it, and then save it with a higher quality compression setting, the modified area will have more "information" in it than the rest of the image.
Well, that could be true. The more important thing to understand is the source image for the bernie portion has probably been uploaded, saved, shared etc before they even added him to the photo at all. It's hard to know the specifics here. What we can say for sure is that the clock area has seen, by far, fewer compression events.
17.7 even the Bernie, which has obviously been manipulated doesn't stand out that much, I know that 17 is an important number to Q, but I'm fairly new at this, why th .7?
bernie won't stand out as it's most likely from a file that's been reuploaded and compressed over and over, thus pushing it to it's minimum error level. Check out the tutorials on the website.
Post #771 (mirrored of the clock) 15-Feb-2018 2:28:16 PM EST 8ch/greatawakening @Jack Civilian Puppet. Player in the game? We play for KEEPS. Need help sleeping? How was your meeting w/ Pelosi? Protection offered? Life Lesson: Be smarter than those controlling you. T-minus [12:34] Q
Mirror 12:34 at the end of the drop. T-minus 4....3...2...1
marker[2]?
I just came by another one, that asked what parkland was a distraction from, parkland shooting was February 14 2018
7 divided by 100 = 0.07?
Good analysis!
Thanks! This is a first check type thing, there are many many other types of analysis that can be applied to photos and some can reveal hidden information. The process of hiding information in an image file is known as steganography, and there are many many tricks to hiding information. It can be tricky to find data sometimes!
So the Space Force edited the time "17:7" WHY would they bother to do that unless they wanted us to see these specific numbers?
What does this have to do with anything?
It shows that the time on the clock is added via photo manipulation software.
Ahh. Nice
That website is awesome, feel free to read through it. They have some tutorial areas that help explain the various tools on the site.
Further, we can expect the bernie portion to have already met its minimum error level, so we should expect it to blend right in. However, the most recent edit is clearly the clock area.
If anyone wants to have some fun spotting anomalies: https://snipboard.io/VQtqh6.jpg
I'm digging in this slice exactly, pixel structure seems weird, likely if something in the hex was altered https://snipboard.io/foRUts.jpg
I love this, let's get to digging deeper!
well, i'm doing the same actually on many pics in Q posts lately, almost sure somewhere there's something hidden for us..
Dunno, may be nothing, i'm no expert on patches, but this is something else that captured my attention, the patch on right looks like from SF, the one on the left instead it doesn't
SbS : https://snipboard.io/J8Drn0.jpg
left: https://snipboard.io/qwdSjG.jpg
right: https://snipboard.io/qhtbd7.jpg
any patchfag that may correct me or give us some hints?
Do you have docker installed? This is a docker image that may interest you.
https://github.com/DominicBreuker/stego-toolkit
Excellent work, anon!
Thanks!
The bottom one looks like The last supper
Thanks! I encourage you and everyone else to browse through the tutorials on the website.
Have you checked the original picture for the same kind of editing? I'm copying a comment from another post, below, with the link to the USSC page. Seems like the filename there might be relevant also? Comparing the bernie version to the original is probably worth the effort, maybe other things were added besides the bernie?
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https://greatawakening.win/p/11SJxurTR3/ussc-photo-drop-with-bernie-for-/c/
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The original pic is up on spacecom.mil, with a link to "download hi-res". The maga.host link below is that download, a 3.6 meg jpeg ( 201209-F-SO188-0010.jpeg, 5552 x 3422 ). It looks like the same pic to me but there might be things added besides the bernie meme? 188? 881? 10, 100?
https://i.maga.host/158ntnF.png
https://www.spacecom.mil/News/Article-Display/Article/2448089/usspacecom-csel-hosts-professionalization-day-for-space-ncos/
https://qalerts.app/?n=188 -- the owl
https://qalerts.app/?n=100 -- "What political leaders worship Satan?"
https://qalerts.app/?n=10 -- worship Satan mentioned again
https://qalerts.app/?n=881 -- if 188 is relevant, then I don't think 881 should be? doesn't seem to point to much
Desaturating the image can help with determining a light source. When looking at an image in only grayscale values, inconsistencies with plotting cast shadows can indicate incongruent light sources. If people are outside, they are all illuminated by the sun. The person whose shadows, don't follow the sun is the one who is out of place in the photo. Low sat Bernie is lacking chroma because of atmospheric perspective outdoors and being shot from a distance. Indoor photos would be full saturation as they are closer to the film plane.
There is actually a simple explanation for this! The portion of the photo with bernie has been compressed more! Thus pushing it to the minimum error level. Think of it like this- each time a photo is reuploaded or resaved it goes through a compression process, unless it is saved in a lossless format. Eventually the photo cannot be compressed anymore, this is the minimum error level. The most telling thing here is that the most recent edit and compression event to any portion of the photo IS the clock area.
It depends on many stuffs, not just compression, in this case you can spot Bernie much easier than the clock: https://snipboard.io/VQtqh6.jpg
i' trying to see if there's anything hidden within pixels...
awesome! although I don't think in this case you are looking at error levels. Is this looking at channels?
I don't think that's quite accurate. Jpeg compresses images by breaking the image up into small boxes, and then for each box, finding a set of weights to use to sum a set of known reference images such that the sum approximates the original box. Storing those weights takes up a lot less space than the individual pixels.
If you save an image as jpeg and then re-save it again without modification, the image won't degrade much after the first save because all the information that couldn't be represented as a sum of weighted reference images is gone, and what's left is the data that can be accurately represented as those weights.
If you manipulate the image, though, such as change the resolution or shift pixels around, the resulting bitmap may lose information again when converted to a jpeg. Also, if you take a highly compressed image, modify it, and then save it with a higher quality compression setting, the modified area will have more "information" in it than the rest of the image.
Well, that could be true. The more important thing to understand is the source image for the bernie portion has probably been uploaded, saved, shared etc before they even added him to the photo at all. It's hard to know the specifics here. What we can say for sure is that the clock area has seen, by far, fewer compression events.