Days after President Joe Biden took office and the Democrats took control of the U.S. Senate, Sen. Rand Paul, R-Ky., would not unequivocally say Sunday that the 2020 presidential election was not stolen and called for an investigation of fraud, without providing evidence. "The debate over whether or not there was fraud should occur, we never had any presentation in court where we actually looked at the evidence. Most of the cases were thrown out for lack of standing,** which is a procedural way of not actually hearing the question," Paul said on ABC's "This Week."
While Paul was one of the many Republican politicians who repeated Trump's unfounded allegations of voter fraud, the Kentucky senator did not object to the certification of the Electoral College on Jan. 7 and has said previously that he thinks Congress should not overturn results. "Now, let me say to be clear, I voted to certify the state electors because I think it would be wrong for Congress to overturn that," he said.
Rand is principled and many people hate that about him, because they would rather someone go AGAINST what they believe is the correct interpretation of the law, in order to get a desired result for THEIR side. Rand sticks to what he believes and doesn't bend it or turn his back on it just to give his side a win. That's called integrity. He has said repeatedly that he does not believe it is the role of congress to overturn a state's electoral collage votes. He didn't just conveniently start believing that this year. That's always been his stance.
t's not over. Blaming the good people on our side and attacking them is not the way you "win." However, it is definitely the way the other side wins.
Rand has been one of the most vocal people out there about the integrity of our elections.
Rand Paul endorsed Mitt Romney in 2012 over his own father Ron Paul.
I tried to give him another chance but nope, he flipped on Trump too and put his stamp of approval on the Election Fraud.
Those two things show us that Rand Paul is a coward. I do not really believe that he has principles. I just think he is good at rationalizing his own bullshit. He’s probably being blackmailed.
Rand did not do that (2012) without his father's ok. It was a gamble, and he knew a lot of Ron Paul folks would go against him for doing it. But don't think for a minute that he did it WITHOUT Ron's approval. Ron did not get the nomination, we all know all of the crap that happened to him in 2008 and 2012 and how the media blacked him out and made him out to be a "wacko". You're absolutely entitled to your opinion and I completely understand and respect it. I know a lot of other RP people who still hold that against Rand to this day. I don't. Rand has done a lot of good for our country and he's one of our best fighters. He didn't turn his back on Trump. Not at all. He's one of his biggest allies. We can just agree to disagree on this stuff.
I appreciate your moderate response, since I was getting a little heated. It was just disappointing to hear his speech on the 6th when he certified the fraud. My instinct is that he is not necessarily a terrible person, but it also seems like he consistently bends the knee at these crucial moments. I understand strategically why he endorsed Romney, but his father was still in the race and I just don’t think anyone would have held it against him had he stood by his dad. It might have only been symbolic, but there is still something important about that in my opinion.
I just don’t think anyone would have held it against him had he stood by his dad.
I know, I go back and forth on that, myself. Do you remember anything about Romney at the time doing some sort of underhanded stuff about his dad, I distinctly remember the rumor going around that Rand was forced to back Romney or Romney would do something to try to destroy his father. It may have just been a rumor, (and I'm talking real sleazy stuff, because we both know Ron Paul is clean as a whistle. It would have been all lies. I've always had this weird feeling that it was more than just Rand trying to "get ahead" or kowtowing to the GOP, etc. I don't know, that thought has always stuck in my mind.) Anyway, I also go back and forth a bit on what he did on the 6th, to be honest. There are not many people that I trust, and I honestly do trust Rand. I guess we'll see how things play out. Peace. and thanks for the convo.
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Rand is principled and many people hate that about him, because they would rather someone go AGAINST what they believe is the correct interpretation of the law, in order to get a desired result for THEIR side. Rand sticks to what he believes and doesn't bend it or turn his back on it just to give his side a win. That's called integrity. He has said repeatedly that he does not believe it is the role of congress to overturn a state's electoral collage votes. He didn't just conveniently start believing that this year. That's always been his stance.
t's not over. Blaming the good people on our side and attacking them is not the way you "win." However, it is definitely the way the other side wins.
Rand has been one of the most vocal people out there about the integrity of our elections.
Rand Paul endorsed Mitt Romney in 2012 over his own father Ron Paul.
I tried to give him another chance but nope, he flipped on Trump too and put his stamp of approval on the Election Fraud.
Those two things show us that Rand Paul is a coward. I do not really believe that he has principles. I just think he is good at rationalizing his own bullshit. He’s probably being blackmailed.
Rand did not do that (2012) without his father's ok. It was a gamble, and he knew a lot of Ron Paul folks would go against him for doing it. But don't think for a minute that he did it WITHOUT Ron's approval. Ron did not get the nomination, we all know all of the crap that happened to him in 2008 and 2012 and how the media blacked him out and made him out to be a "wacko". You're absolutely entitled to your opinion and I completely understand and respect it. I know a lot of other RP people who still hold that against Rand to this day. I don't. Rand has done a lot of good for our country and he's one of our best fighters. He didn't turn his back on Trump. Not at all. He's one of his biggest allies. We can just agree to disagree on this stuff.
I appreciate your moderate response, since I was getting a little heated. It was just disappointing to hear his speech on the 6th when he certified the fraud. My instinct is that he is not necessarily a terrible person, but it also seems like he consistently bends the knee at these crucial moments. I understand strategically why he endorsed Romney, but his father was still in the race and I just don’t think anyone would have held it against him had he stood by his dad. It might have only been symbolic, but there is still something important about that in my opinion.
I totally get what you're saying and this:
I know, I go back and forth on that, myself. Do you remember anything about Romney at the time doing some sort of underhanded stuff about his dad, I distinctly remember the rumor going around that Rand was forced to back Romney or Romney would do something to try to destroy his father. It may have just been a rumor, (and I'm talking real sleazy stuff, because we both know Ron Paul is clean as a whistle. It would have been all lies. I've always had this weird feeling that it was more than just Rand trying to "get ahead" or kowtowing to the GOP, etc. I don't know, that thought has always stuck in my mind.) Anyway, I also go back and forth a bit on what he did on the 6th, to be honest. There are not many people that I trust, and I honestly do trust Rand. I guess we'll see how things play out. Peace. and thanks for the convo.