I've always followed Icke and felt he was on to something pretty serious and the way the MSM worked overtime to ridicule him was very telling (as per Q).
It seems he hasn't done much research into the actual group. He seems to have just seen the "tRUst tHe pLAn" talking points and jumped to conclusions. Just because we follow Q and trust the plan doesnt mean we also sit idly by and do nothing at the same time. We call our representatives and make our voices heard etc.
The difference as far as I can tell in terms of the other examples he cites is that Q has provided tons of proof, beyond statistical possibilities. Also David's main contention is that this "Drake" guy (a Q-type whistleblower back in 2011) used to give dates as to when the bad guys would get arrested and of course it never happened - well Q never does that. Q never gives specific dates as to when things happen.
Q also encourages free thinking, not what to think.
What I cant work out is if Icke is now a disinformation agent; if so has he always been or is he now compromised, or is he just being ignorant on this and annoyed Q is taking away his schtick?
As I keep telling myself, if Q is fake and a psyop why nuke it from the internet? Why not allow it to fester and draw in the mainstream to lull EVERYONE into complacency, as he suggests? Why wouldnt Trump just distance himself form it from the beginning? Youtube allows moon landing conspiracies and aliens etc but not Q?
I feel like now either Q is fake or Icke is and I'm genuinely upset now either way.
I am not trying to “help you” and I wasn’t meaning any disrespect. I do agree that religion is used to divide people. I’m not religious, I’m Christian. As long as there aren’t disagreements on the nature and work of Christ and salvation, it’s healthy to hear differing points of view. Point taken.
Sorry I took offense.
What do you mean by, "I’m not religious, I’m Christian." Do you mean you don't worship / go to church?
Do you study the Bible?
I search religions and myths for wisdom and knowledge, but Im not Christian.
If you think it is healthy to hear differing points of view, why not if they don't accept Jesus as God.
Christian means just that, I follow the teachings of Jesus Christ and try to live my life accordingly. I don’t subscribe to any particular religion (Catholicism, Presbyterianism, Episcopalian, Baptist, etc). Yes I go to church (except we have been prevented from doing so because of the covid lie). Yes, I read the Bible every day. I think it’s healthy to hear other points of view except when it contradicts Christ’s teachings or the issue of salvation. Jesus clearly taught “ “I am the way and the truth and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.” That’s what I believe. I don’t begrudge or belittle anybody who believes differently.
Im not opposed to Christ as an enlightened being, or as a symbol of righteousness or even as a god, but not The God.
My major problem is with the Catholic Church and what it teaches. It had a monopoly on Christianity for too long and I believe they have distorted the truth. The Eucharist really bothers me, I think the C.C. is trying to lead people astray and normalize the eating of flesh and drinking of blood.
Are you familiar with the Gnostic teachings of Christ?
I believe the Gnostics had a closer truth to what Christ was teaching. The Catholic Church exterminated all of the Gnostics and labeled them as heretics and human sacraficers. My point being, if you have a problem with the Catholic Church, then Gnosticism may warrant a look. If the C.C wanted the Gnostics gone that badly they had to of had some Truth the C.C. wanted buried.
Im not trying to convert you to Gnosticism, I don't consider myself one so I have no objective other than show you another option to the C.C.'s version.
I have a major problem with the Catholic Church as well; especially the office of the papacy. Many Biblical scholars throughout history have likened the office of the papacy to that of the antichrist.
With regard to Christ being an enlightened being or a symbol of righteousness, Christ himself equated Himself to God: “verily, verily, I say unto you, before Abraham was, I am” (John 8:58). So either Christ was a delusional fraud or he was speaking the truth.