Circumstances as they are with my wife and I, I will only say that we've been "travelling" when in reality, we actually were traveling, but were supposed to be home 10 months ago... Thanks, covid.
Anyway, just got off the phone with the dad. He gets 100% of his information from FB and msm... I was called a conspiracy theorist for asking questions, that's it, just asking questions... Asking questions makes me a fascist, qanon believing, conspiracy theorist, apparently. I even played dumb, which was only about a 50% effort, and said that I have no idea what's happening back there and just wanted his perspective.. Same as 5 years ago. Hates Trump, hates having his accepted narrative questioned.
I would like to have my dad back, so this day of reckoning for the msm and peel back of their manipulative psyop campaign cannot come soon enough.
I'm sorry my fren. Both my parents and my in-laws are hardcore liberals. Things are fine with my parents, we can disagree over politics and then laugh over wine and cards within the hour. Unfortunately, things are NOT fine with my in-laws. They sound like your dad. Some of the liberals cannot deal with any deviation from their version of the MSM approved narrative and take it as a personal affront if you are different than them.
mine died of the flu in 2018 - no one put on a mask for him
he was pretty young - they killed him with fkg chemos
sometimes i think to pick up the phone to have a chat about some joke only he would get and ...............................................................................
You're not alone mate. In exactly same boat. Dad still thinks his beloved dems are the JFK dems. He's ole skool. No research, only msm. They're truly enemy of humanity.
In time we will all find out what the libs are truly made of. As irrefutable info begins immerging will our F&F just disappear from our lives, because they cannot face up to how wrong they were ? OR will they man up, accept they were wrong, and come back into our lives ? I do hope for everyone it's the latter.
Unconditional love. Even at the hardest times.
Not everything you lose is a loss....
Same boat, fren. I'm finally visiting my dad for his birthday this coming weekend. Last time I saw him was a year ago. It is what it is. They watch and believe everything coming from the "black box" called 'tel-a vision' that delivers 'programing' over 'channels'... p.s. they don't even try to hide their brainwashing. Don't waiver, don't feel the need to comment, just be confident in your knowledge that we are awake and they are not. In time, they will seek you foresight once they realized you were right to ask questions to begin with.... I've been in this spot a lot longer than Covid, I'm hoping the the pay off be at least half what I've endured over the years. But I will be happy either way cause I left it out of the field.
My dad told me 4 months ago if I liked Trump he has lost all respect for me, went off on a tirade about Trump throwing temper tantrums, said they were like my temper tantrums when I was a kid and a few other choice words, and that was it for us, it is a tough time all around for everyone right now. It is affecting my two sons too, 19 and 21, they love Trump, and it is hurting their relationship with grandpa.
sounds just like my dad. i thought of starting an online support group for people with brainwashed communist parents who believe the news. my dad would call me a russian bot when i showed him the BLM website where it states all the crazy shit they believe in/promote/stand for.
he fuckin takes naps with MSNBC on pumping retard into his subconscious.
i haven’t had a conversation with him in months. i gave up.
It was a rough conversation... He sent me a txt saying that he found no evidence of antifa action at the capitol.. Sent him the name John Sullivan, but even then I could only one one web site that he might find credible - the BBC.. And I didn't link it btw, just the name... Make him dig.
Were there any other antifa instigators arrested, any other info?
Holy fuck, it’s like he is locked in a time capsule. Poor thing. My Mom too. As if critical thinking is an thinkable task...
My parents, my in-laws, my wife, many friends are also brainwashed so I avoid the subject with them. I exist quietly in my worm hole. Don't want any trouble. Just waiting for them to awaken.
Tough, but show grace. he is clueless, but still show him love. Sucks, I know. Dealing with it with my own family.
Always, show grace. It is hard, but necessary. Why Christ rode into that town on a donkey, lol.
how do you have a loving relationship with someone who wants to destroy the constitution, implement racism, enforce lockdowns, destroy your business, endorse cancel culture, destroy our borders, etc etc. i think you’re naive
In his mind it's exactly the same, but with Trump being the epicenter.. I've noticed this before, where both sides are saying the same thing. It's a psyop objective... To get people arguing, and everyone yelling, "how can you not see what's going on?" ...it's fucked, and I'm tired of it.
Truth I have 2 liberal parents and you can only do some much. sometimes they will have to experience stuff on their own, I just throw a little at them here and there.
Do you have resources you can recommend? My husband is going through a hard time with this. He read Adult Children of Emotionally Immature Parents and it was helpful but he's looking for more guidance.
No More Mr. Nice Guy by Robert Glover is a really good one.
Thank you my fren! I'll look into it!
Not trying to be cute here, but following the example of Jesus is the only way to true peace of mind. Jesus told us to forgive people who don't deserve it because they lack self-awareness and aren't capable of seeing the harm they are causing. Forgive them for they know not what they do.
Forgive them sure, but cut them out completely.
we think his mother has been poisoning people (munchausen by proxy) and have a child on the way. Jesus might take the cup of poison but I'm not sure he'd expose his child to it.
I never said you have to have a relationship with them. You should cut all people out of your life who are unwilling to repent
Wow. Congratulations on your freedom and on making your own a family. You sound like you have been gifted with a lot of insight and clarity.
My husband's parents do more with gaslighting, manipulation, spying, and unfortunately we now think poisoning (munchausen by proxy). It's horrible enough that my husband can't stand being in a relationship with them but all deniable enough that he's worried it's all in his head and is guilty when avoiding them. Our first child is on the way. Hopefully he will find the clarity you found and learn what to do about his relationship with them.
As hard as it is, do the right thing for the sake of your children. Munchausen by proxy could kill them.
Unfortunately we don't have any concrete evidence, just a lot of suspicion. My husband is torn apart by the guilt that he could be wrong. I don't think he's wrong but I can't imagine how hard it must be if it's your own parents you suspect.
Thank you my fren. Yes, his parents seem to have munchausen in addition to munchausen by proxy. Every year like clockwork his mother was in the hospital right when it was time for finals so it would be hard for him to succeed academically. So he's used to their medical manipulations.
He just needs to find some evidence that he can be content with it's not all in his head. His parents have gaslit him his whole life and he questions himself a lot when it comes to them.