Let me copy and paste a comment I wrote earlier today on a separate thread, with some minor edits:
Speaking as an Asian person who has lived for over 10 years in Southeast Asia, the mainstream Western view of that part of the world is stunningly simplistic and ignores the fact that the average Burmese citizen does not necessarily view the military as a bad thing. In fact, when the military junta first came to power in 1962, they were largely supported by the citizens who were dissatisfied with the elected government at the time, which they perceived to be weak, corrupt, and not prepared to solve the country’s problems. Even in 2014, a poll of Burmese citizens showed that 84% of them hold “very favorable” or “favorable” opinions of the military, ranking it ahead of the government and media.
This narrative of “military bad, democratically elected government good” really shows Westerners’ lack of knowledge of the real situation. I am not implying that the Burmese military is perfect, but they are definitely not as awful as the way they are portrayed in Western media. The most common opinion among the Burmese is that while they acknowledge that life was far from perfect under military rule, they also view their military as essential to maintaining law and order, and believe it plays an important role. The Burmese have a long and proud military history that dates back to the 9th century, when the Burmese imperial army was one of the major military forces in Southeast Asia, and they accordingly consider it an important part of their heritage.
Thanks so much. I have been trying to reassure people that the Myanmar military is very professional and very anti corruption but as an American, my words only carry so much weight. Btw, I have been following Southeast Asian politics for 30 years. US news coverage is worse than bad; no understanding what so ever.
Americans tend to think everyone thinks like them. And many Americans think militaries are evil because they have been conditioned to think that way. They are incapable of understanding the pride that soldiers have in serving with honor and professionalism. They don't get that many cultures have a proud and glorious military history.
Yes, there is often a lot of cultural and historical context that is completely missing from these overly simplistic Western narratives. Please feel free to save a copy of my comment and pass it on to others if you wish.
Thanks, I will do that. Btw, I've known not to believe the papers since 1972. I've always looked for alternate sources of information. I'm fortunate in that I have and have had friends and close coworkers from all over the world, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia, India, Indonesia, Vietnam, etc. I like to learn so I have always asked a lot of questions. Btw, I'm also ex-military and generally have a great respect for all soldiers.
Thanks for that background. True, our besotted MSM covers only the surface matters and then spins their bias on that, such that we really don't know what's going on around the world unless we dig, dig, dig. Good summary!
This is a copy and paste from another post I commented on. Just some background.
I am an American expat in Thailand. As such, I am not intimately familiar with Myanmar, but I have a general understanding of what was happening there. Understand that the current regime led by Aung San Suu Kyi, the NLD party, was very popular a decade ago. She came to lead the government with a lot of hopes. The Burmese constitution is basically a power sharing arrangement between the military and the political establishment. Each keeps checks on the other.
Over the years people have become less enchanted with Aung San Suu Kyi. She has forged close ties with very corrupt individuals, and the high esteem she started with has eroded dramatically. Worse, Myanmar has developed a reputation as a hotbed of human trafficking. The stateless Rohingya providing a near perfect source of children for the disgusting cabal, and Aung San Suu Kyi doing absolutely nothing to stop this state of affairs at best, and encouraging it at the worst. In short, she wasn't the savior the people had hoped for. And her party was going under.
So, she did what any corrupt politician does...she cheated. During campaigning they allowed each party to have a small amount of airtime on TV to present their case to the people. But the government refused to allow these parties to say anything bad about Aung San Suu Kyi or the NLD during these broadcasts. Many parties boycotted the rigged official statements. The government also systematically hindered voting in areas critical of the NLD party. And, of course, we now know they used corrupt Smartmatic voting software to rig the vote.
All of these tactics were designed to weaken the power of the military and unfairly strengthen her position. I doubt this was done without the support of the international cabal, given her compliance in providing them with Rohingya children for their sick practices.
The Burmese military is not known for being angels. In fact, they would rather not have democracy at all. But they are still viewed with more reverence by the average person in Myanmar than the corrupt police or politicians. So this is a complex situation, and I am not sure how closely it really parallels the situation in the USA. The one thing this does do however, is put the human trafficking pipelines in check for a while. And for that, I think we all have to be thankful.
I'll do some research tomorrow. I used to go to the South China Morning Post but they were taken over by the CCP Nov 2019. I'll be looking for English language papers in Thailand for starters. Taiwanese papers would also be worth investigating.
There was definitely fraud in their election, but now people are a little worried about the military just straight up taking control. The military has taken control in that country before and it did not end well for many people.
The average person in Myanmar is stuck between a rock and a hard place. There was RAMPANT fraud during the election, but having said that...nobody really wants the military to take over either.
I am ethnically Asian and have previously lived in Southeast Asia for over 10 years. There is a lot of important context that is often missing from the Western narrative. It is true that Myanmar experienced economic stagnation under military rule, but that was due to the socialist policies they implemented. In the 1962 coup where they first took over, the military was actually largely supported by the citizens, who believed that their country (which had just become independent not too long ago) would benefit from strong leadership and a new national identity. The citizens were dissatisfied with the elected government at the time, and viewed it as weak, corrupt, and not prepared to solve the country’s problems.
Even as recently as 2014, polls of Burmese citizens show that 84% of them hold “very favorable” or “favorable” opinions of the military, ranking it ahead of the government and media. The most common opinion among the Burmese is that while they acknowledge that life was far from perfect under military rule, they also view their military as essential to maintaining law and order, and believe it plays an important role. The Burmese have a long and proud military history that dates back to the 9th century, when the Burmese imperial army was one of the major military forces in Southeast Asia, and they accordingly consider it an important part of their heritage.
Let me copy and paste a comment I wrote earlier today on a separate thread, with some minor edits:
Speaking as an Asian person who has lived for over 10 years in Southeast Asia, the mainstream Western view of that part of the world is stunningly simplistic and ignores the fact that the average Burmese citizen does not necessarily view the military as a bad thing. In fact, when the military junta first came to power in 1962, they were largely supported by the citizens who were dissatisfied with the elected government at the time, which they perceived to be weak, corrupt, and not prepared to solve the country’s problems. Even in 2014, a poll of Burmese citizens showed that 84% of them hold “very favorable” or “favorable” opinions of the military, ranking it ahead of the government and media.
This narrative of “military bad, democratically elected government good” really shows Westerners’ lack of knowledge of the real situation. I am not implying that the Burmese military is perfect, but they are definitely not as awful as the way they are portrayed in Western media. The most common opinion among the Burmese is that while they acknowledge that life was far from perfect under military rule, they also view their military as essential to maintaining law and order, and believe it plays an important role. The Burmese have a long and proud military history that dates back to the 9th century, when the Burmese imperial army was one of the major military forces in Southeast Asia, and they accordingly consider it an important part of their heritage.
Thanks so much. I have been trying to reassure people that the Myanmar military is very professional and very anti corruption but as an American, my words only carry so much weight. Btw, I have been following Southeast Asian politics for 30 years. US news coverage is worse than bad; no understanding what so ever.
Americans tend to think everyone thinks like them. And many Americans think militaries are evil because they have been conditioned to think that way. They are incapable of understanding the pride that soldiers have in serving with honor and professionalism. They don't get that many cultures have a proud and glorious military history.
Yes, there is often a lot of cultural and historical context that is completely missing from these overly simplistic Western narratives. Please feel free to save a copy of my comment and pass it on to others if you wish.
Thanks, I will do that. Btw, I've known not to believe the papers since 1972. I've always looked for alternate sources of information. I'm fortunate in that I have and have had friends and close coworkers from all over the world, Thailand, Laos, Cambodia, Malaysia, India, Indonesia, Vietnam, etc. I like to learn so I have always asked a lot of questions. Btw, I'm also ex-military and generally have a great respect for all soldiers.
Thanks for that background. True, our besotted MSM covers only the surface matters and then spins their bias on that, such that we really don't know what's going on around the world unless we dig, dig, dig. Good summary!
Lol
This is a copy and paste from another post I commented on. Just some background.
I am an American expat in Thailand. As such, I am not intimately familiar with Myanmar, but I have a general understanding of what was happening there. Understand that the current regime led by Aung San Suu Kyi, the NLD party, was very popular a decade ago. She came to lead the government with a lot of hopes. The Burmese constitution is basically a power sharing arrangement between the military and the political establishment. Each keeps checks on the other.
Over the years people have become less enchanted with Aung San Suu Kyi. She has forged close ties with very corrupt individuals, and the high esteem she started with has eroded dramatically. Worse, Myanmar has developed a reputation as a hotbed of human trafficking. The stateless Rohingya providing a near perfect source of children for the disgusting cabal, and Aung San Suu Kyi doing absolutely nothing to stop this state of affairs at best, and encouraging it at the worst. In short, she wasn't the savior the people had hoped for. And her party was going under.
So, she did what any corrupt politician does...she cheated. During campaigning they allowed each party to have a small amount of airtime on TV to present their case to the people. But the government refused to allow these parties to say anything bad about Aung San Suu Kyi or the NLD during these broadcasts. Many parties boycotted the rigged official statements. The government also systematically hindered voting in areas critical of the NLD party. And, of course, we now know they used corrupt Smartmatic voting software to rig the vote.
All of these tactics were designed to weaken the power of the military and unfairly strengthen her position. I doubt this was done without the support of the international cabal, given her compliance in providing them with Rohingya children for their sick practices.
The Burmese military is not known for being angels. In fact, they would rather not have democracy at all. But they are still viewed with more reverence by the average person in Myanmar than the corrupt police or politicians. So this is a complex situation, and I am not sure how closely it really parallels the situation in the USA. The one thing this does do however, is put the human trafficking pipelines in check for a while. And for that, I think we all have to be thankful.
Not sure we can know the answer for sure.
I'll do some research tomorrow. I used to go to the South China Morning Post but they were taken over by the CCP Nov 2019. I'll be looking for English language papers in Thailand for starters. Taiwanese papers would also be worth investigating.
I was looking for videos to see what was going on. I couldn’t find anything.
There was definitely fraud in their election, but now people are a little worried about the military just straight up taking control. The military has taken control in that country before and it did not end well for many people.
The average person in Myanmar is stuck between a rock and a hard place. There was RAMPANT fraud during the election, but having said that...nobody really wants the military to take over either.
I am ethnically Asian and have previously lived in Southeast Asia for over 10 years. There is a lot of important context that is often missing from the Western narrative. It is true that Myanmar experienced economic stagnation under military rule, but that was due to the socialist policies they implemented. In the 1962 coup where they first took over, the military was actually largely supported by the citizens, who believed that their country (which had just become independent not too long ago) would benefit from strong leadership and a new national identity. The citizens were dissatisfied with the elected government at the time, and viewed it as weak, corrupt, and not prepared to solve the country’s problems.
Even as recently as 2014, polls of Burmese citizens show that 84% of them hold “very favorable” or “favorable” opinions of the military, ranking it ahead of the government and media. The most common opinion among the Burmese is that while they acknowledge that life was far from perfect under military rule, they also view their military as essential to maintaining law and order, and believe it plays an important role. The Burmese have a long and proud military history that dates back to the 9th century, when the Burmese imperial army was one of the major military forces in Southeast Asia, and they accordingly consider it an important part of their heritage.
Lets see what they do with the "control". I pray they hold a legit election.
Well, if it's anything like that last time they took over...they'll keep power for about 40 years lol
Better that than under a globalist pedophilic regime.