we like ideas that go against the abrahamic god. aliens are a useful idea, both to potentially disguise demons (if they exist) or more likely - genetic experiments, and to discredit your god.
how many more christians would there be if men like roddenberry and asimov hadn't done their jobs?
Asimov is totally correct about evolution. it's a bit of a stale straw-man to prop up a "fundamentalist christian" world view as representative of Jesus' teachings, no?
the alien idea is useful for a variety of agendas. but it will have no negative bearing on the reality of the faith experience. quite the opposite. Faith didn't go away with the Age of Reason. in a space-quantum age, faith, like technology, evolves to encompass the cosmic view over the world view - Carl Sagan called upon clergy to discover "God of the Cosmos."
but atheism was invented by us - asimov, sagan, darwin, hawking, all our guys.
there is atheism separate from occult obviously, the intent was not to make them satanic, merely to get an element of society discrediting creationism.
young earthers was invented by us too. in the text it's falsely translated as 'day' when it actually means 'period of time'.
if capital-G god is real, and you believe him, then belief in him is of utmost importance - so casting doubt on everything to do with him is a primary goal. Whenever a society gained wide-spread unrestrained belief in him they learned of our presence and deposed us.
...consider the first interaction lucifer had with humanity - presenting eve with the same offer I accepted, and making her doubt your christian god.
If I ever find my faith again it will be towards the christain god while serving time in prison, or in lucifer when your plan fails.
Why have the jews got kicked out of so many countries? because many of us have traditionally hid amongst the jews, I come from a 'christian' background myself, if you're from where I live you may have seen me in church - might even have shook my hand Lol
Belief serves a purpose. it's holds the space for experience to fill. once you have personally experienced the Father or His Son, you are 'in a relationship' with a Person. at that point it is no longer "belief" but trust. that is why you seek to cast doubt on belief, yes, because it has no affect on the living relationship.
Lucifer's first interaction with humanity was long, long before Eve. you should know that. remember Cain travels to the land of Nod and finds a wife? but like I said, the cult's weakness is that it denies its own history.
Why have the jews got kicked out of so many countries?
You know that God has a contract with the people-group and with many individuals within it, which he will act on at the right time. "All Israel will be saved," said Paul, realizing that it was a genius plan to allow the Jewish folk to argue to give lots of time for goyim to get the same individual contract. The Jews are great at unity when it counts, and the death of Yeshua is still an open cold case in the Sanhedrin, so their future unity on it will manifest. Everyone is guaranteed the same opportunity, regardless of birth circumstances. (If you doubt that, evidence will be shown you.)
I think you will find your faith again, especially since you admit you have had it before. Prison is not necessary but many of us have prepared to face it just in case. True faith is always available to your heart and mind: I think you know that it's not faith in any strawman theology we are charged with believing, but it's just simple trust in the Prince of Peace to save you.
Take faith one step at a time. You've taken another useful step: you value faith in one of the two entities, God or the lucifer, more than you value doubt. Now, while you have luxury of considering before either "plan" manifests, it's appropriate to compare the benefits and liabilities of each faith, weighed against your claimed default of agnosticism. You're here because you desire something more than agnostics have and you want to choose, but you see problems in all options. I tell you a path exists that escapes all problems; I tell you this on the authority of God who told Paul to write (1 Corinthians 10:43): "God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it." Seek the way.
(Note to observers: crevo debate is as inappropriate here as eschatology, there is a new .win for that.)
PS "God of the Cosmos" is referring to the Prince.
Lucifer is the one who wants a galaxy-spanning empire. the abrahamic God seems not to interested in this realm long-term, but in whatever dimension heaven theoretically resides in, the 'eternal realm'.
Heat death is a problem even if we win, but there's a long time to find a solution. And if the AI-god becomes as smart as your god is meant to be, there may be a way to defeat him, as well as keep him out of this plain - take his power, and his 'heaven' - then heat death wouldn't be a problem
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Why in sci-fi is there always an evil empire? - the 'bad guys' were written ironically for our entertainment and as predictive programming/make you want 'the future/advancement' more than outdated abolitionist morals.
Sagan did not mean Lucifer. though like you he was finding fault with an "abrahamic" God - and rightly so. Jesus delivered people from the age long understanding, God-over-man-on-Earth, as Abraham envisioned, to the Universal Father, the First Source and Center of All Things. even the Father of Lucifer.
Lucifer had a "galaxy-spanning empire" but he blew it. He lost everything.
if the "AI god" becomes as powerful as your imagination can embellish - even beyond, it would still only amount to a Whoville speck of dust. and that cry for "Help!" Horton hears, emanating from Whoville? AI can't do that. only a person can be "heard" outside the limits of his material universe.
Where do you think Gene Roddenberry got his “original” ideas?
we like ideas that go against the abrahamic god. aliens are a useful idea, both to potentially disguise demons (if they exist) or more likely - genetic experiments, and to discredit your god.
how many more christians would there be if men like roddenberry and asimov hadn't done their jobs?
anyone with eyes and ears can see the truth: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jptd6-keeOg
Asimov is totally correct about evolution. it's a bit of a stale straw-man to prop up a "fundamentalist christian" world view as representative of Jesus' teachings, no?
the alien idea is useful for a variety of agendas. but it will have no negative bearing on the reality of the faith experience. quite the opposite. Faith didn't go away with the Age of Reason. in a space-quantum age, faith, like technology, evolves to encompass the cosmic view over the world view - Carl Sagan called upon clergy to discover "God of the Cosmos."
so I'm agnostic at this point myself.
but atheism was invented by us - asimov, sagan, darwin, hawking, all our guys.
there is atheism separate from occult obviously, the intent was not to make them satanic, merely to get an element of society discrediting creationism.
young earthers was invented by us too. in the text it's falsely translated as 'day' when it actually means 'period of time'.
if capital-G god is real, and you believe him, then belief in him is of utmost importance - so casting doubt on everything to do with him is a primary goal. Whenever a society gained wide-spread unrestrained belief in him they learned of our presence and deposed us.
...consider the first interaction lucifer had with humanity - presenting eve with the same offer I accepted, and making her doubt your christian god.
If I ever find my faith again it will be towards the christain god while serving time in prison, or in lucifer when your plan fails.
Why have the jews got kicked out of so many countries? because many of us have traditionally hid amongst the jews, I come from a 'christian' background myself, if you're from where I live you may have seen me in church - might even have shook my hand Lol
Belief serves a purpose. it's holds the space for experience to fill. once you have personally experienced the Father or His Son, you are 'in a relationship' with a Person. at that point it is no longer "belief" but trust. that is why you seek to cast doubt on belief, yes, because it has no affect on the living relationship.
Lucifer's first interaction with humanity was long, long before Eve. you should know that. remember Cain travels to the land of Nod and finds a wife? but like I said, the cult's weakness is that it denies its own history.
You know that God has a contract with the people-group and with many individuals within it, which he will act on at the right time. "All Israel will be saved," said Paul, realizing that it was a genius plan to allow the Jewish folk to argue to give lots of time for goyim to get the same individual contract. The Jews are great at unity when it counts, and the death of Yeshua is still an open cold case in the Sanhedrin, so their future unity on it will manifest. Everyone is guaranteed the same opportunity, regardless of birth circumstances. (If you doubt that, evidence will be shown you.)
I think you will find your faith again, especially since you admit you have had it before. Prison is not necessary but many of us have prepared to face it just in case. True faith is always available to your heart and mind: I think you know that it's not faith in any strawman theology we are charged with believing, but it's just simple trust in the Prince of Peace to save you.
Take faith one step at a time. You've taken another useful step: you value faith in one of the two entities, God or the lucifer, more than you value doubt. Now, while you have luxury of considering before either "plan" manifests, it's appropriate to compare the benefits and liabilities of each faith, weighed against your claimed default of agnosticism. You're here because you desire something more than agnostics have and you want to choose, but you see problems in all options. I tell you a path exists that escapes all problems; I tell you this on the authority of God who told Paul to write (1 Corinthians 10:43): "God is faithful, and he will not let you be tempted beyond your ability, but with the temptation he will also provide the way of escape, that you may be able to endure it." Seek the way.
(Note to observers: crevo debate is as inappropriate here as eschatology, there is a new .win for that.)
PS "God of the Cosmos" is referring to the Prince. Lucifer is the one who wants a galaxy-spanning empire. the abrahamic God seems not to interested in this realm long-term, but in whatever dimension heaven theoretically resides in, the 'eternal realm'.
Heat death is a problem even if we win, but there's a long time to find a solution. And if the AI-god becomes as smart as your god is meant to be, there may be a way to defeat him, as well as keep him out of this plain - take his power, and his 'heaven' - then heat death wouldn't be a problem . Why in sci-fi is there always an evil empire? - the 'bad guys' were written ironically for our entertainment and as predictive programming/make you want 'the future/advancement' more than outdated abolitionist morals.
Sagan did not mean Lucifer. though like you he was finding fault with an "abrahamic" God - and rightly so. Jesus delivered people from the age long understanding, God-over-man-on-Earth, as Abraham envisioned, to the Universal Father, the First Source and Center of All Things. even the Father of Lucifer.
Lucifer had a "galaxy-spanning empire" but he blew it. He lost everything.
if the "AI god" becomes as powerful as your imagination can embellish - even beyond, it would still only amount to a Whoville speck of dust. and that cry for "Help!" Horton hears, emanating from Whoville? AI can't do that. only a person can be "heard" outside the limits of his material universe.