This post is a great opportunity to talk about this .WIN's mission. As a member of the TDW .WIN community, we have a different Q focus than what it was on Voat or elsewhere. Our mission is to red-pill the normies. That's a different audience. Voat was a self-contained community where you could say whatever "the fuck" you wanted and any of whatever the most supposedly 'evil' codewords were just fine because everyone knew what they really meant. But we are a .WIN. Everyone's ID and PW work on all the .WINs. Normies from other .WINs could soon find themselves looking at our content. Sure, we're never going to treat them like idiots, but they're not as "advanced" into Q and the underlying issues as we are, and they need a bit more of a kid glove approach. Every post might be the only chance a normie gives us.
And there are some issues that are a huge turnoff to them, some of the, er, deeper conspiracy stuff (hence the "fringe conspiracies" sticky). There is a http://conspiracies.WIN for those. You won't be censored over there. But here, we will remain tightly focused on Q, and related habbenings, and the .WIN will be curated to reflect that.
Lastly, conduct. If you don't want a .WIN with basic participation standards, go elsewhere. This isn't censorship—it's taking out the TRASH. Posting this kind garbage, folks, will get you permanently invited to play elsewhere, and fast. The fact that this controversy all started with a sticky asking y'all to tone down all the obvious offensive language says everything anyone needs to know about this subject. WE are the guests. Normies coming here who are confused, seeking answers, and wondering what the hell is going on—that's who this .WIN is for. And this .WIN will continue to be curated to reflect that. KEEP IT CLASSY.
We're not the chans. We're not your moms. I'm leaving this post up, heck, I'll sticky it. We don't mind meta discussion about how our .WIN can evolve and improve, especially with the influx of new peeps who have their own passions and needs. But the mod team is not modding any differently than we have been during the past almost year we've been up. We want to accommodate you. Frankly, the board has really livened up with you guys here, and we're loving that. But, please say hello to the .WIN mission as laid out on the sidebar, because, as Q said, we have a mission. BE READY, because people are going to start freaking out when the events start coming fast. That's our mission.
This post is a great opportunity to once again state that the way you are handling this is in general terrible.
You guys conveniently ignore your own rules when it suits you and that's not cool.
For the fiftieth time in case you want to ree at me, I'm good with banning people for being egregious with that.
An unmoderated forum becomes Voat and that was a total cesspool.
But we don't need snarky posts attacking people, we don't need straw mans or ad hominems when we tell you we don't like it, and we don't need the attitude that you guys have shown.
I agreed with you on separating those conspiracy theories from this and relegating them to the conspiracy win. However, you broke the rules you set up for everyone else by calling everyone who believed in those "retards" -- I did not agree with that.
The post that sparked all this was a virtue signalling post that was poorly handled, attacking people in this community and trying to act like the people who were upset were the people doing it.
The mod hid behind statements of "I think they're shills", yet still continued in the comments section accusing other people of being the ones to do it.
When people bring how bad this is being handled up, yet another mod comes out and says "don't be dramatic" when it has totally distracted the community and created a divide that did not exist before the virtue signalling.
I will give you props for finally stickying something that isn't inflammatory towards users but I'm not sure the divide is going to be fixable if this behavior continues.
Please post this exact comment in the main stream? It's not visible to anyone here and it deserves to me. We can take the constructive criticism like this, ALL DAY, and we're grateful for it, and will be better.
EDIT, also, please know that we recently let a mod go, for, doing exactly this
The fact that this controversy all started with a sticky asking y'all to tone down all the obvious offensive language says everything anyone needs to know about this subject.
I don't appreciate this continued misrepresentation of why people are upset. The controversy started because of the sudden announcement that one slur above all others was now forbidden with apparently no exceptions. Also, despite initially claiming that only shills were using said language, UhtredRagnarok proceeded to direct his warning at users in general with an accusatory and threatening tone (e.g. "I shouldn't have to say this," and "Stop it, or else"). When people then expressed concern that this could be the start of a slippery slope, many of his replies were dismissive, mocking, and unprofessional, which did nothing to inspire confidence and only served to fan the flames. To make matters worse, I've yet to see a single mod acknowledge this, instead opting to conduct themselves similarly and accuse other users of being racists or shills.
Regardless of the content of his message, UhtredRagnarok objectively handled the situation badly. He could've just alerted the community to the uptick in shill activity and that we should report anyone we see using the N-word, rather than insinuating that a significant number of legitimate users were using the word and threatening them with permanent bans. He also should've structured his replies to be less disparaging. Had either of these been done, this situation could've largely been avoided.
This post is a great opportunity to talk about this .WIN's mission. As a member of the TDW .WIN community, we have a different Q focus than what it was on Voat or elsewhere. Our mission is to red-pill the normies. That's a different audience. Voat was a self-contained community where you could say whatever "the fuck" you wanted and any of whatever the most supposedly 'evil' codewords were just fine because everyone knew what they really meant. But we are a .WIN. Everyone's ID and PW work on all the .WINs. Normies from other .WINs could soon find themselves looking at our content. Sure, we're never going to treat them like idiots, but they're not as "advanced" into Q and the underlying issues as we are, and they need a bit more of a kid glove approach. Every post might be the only chance a normie gives us.
And there are some issues that are a huge turnoff to them, some of the, er, deeper conspiracy stuff (hence the "fringe conspiracies" sticky). There is a http://conspiracies.WIN for those. You won't be censored over there. But here, we will remain tightly focused on Q, and related habbenings, and the .WIN will be curated to reflect that.
Lastly, conduct. If you don't want a .WIN with basic participation standards, go elsewhere. This isn't censorship—it's taking out the TRASH. Posting this kind garbage, folks, will get you permanently invited to play elsewhere, and fast. The fact that this controversy all started with a sticky asking y'all to tone down all the obvious offensive language says everything anyone needs to know about this subject. WE are the guests. Normies coming here who are confused, seeking answers, and wondering what the hell is going on—that's who this .WIN is for. And this .WIN will continue to be curated to reflect that. KEEP IT CLASSY.
We're not the chans. We're not your moms. I'm leaving this post up, heck, I'll sticky it. We don't mind meta discussion about how our .WIN can evolve and improve, especially with the influx of new peeps who have their own passions and needs. But the mod team is not modding any differently than we have been during the past almost year we've been up. We want to accommodate you. Frankly, the board has really livened up with you guys here, and we're loving that. But, please say hello to the .WIN mission as laid out on the sidebar, because, as Q said, we have a mission. BE READY, because people are going to start freaking out when the events start coming fast. That's our mission.
Thanks
This post is a great opportunity to once again state that the way you are handling this is in general terrible.
You guys conveniently ignore your own rules when it suits you and that's not cool.
For the fiftieth time in case you want to ree at me, I'm good with banning people for being egregious with that.
An unmoderated forum becomes Voat and that was a total cesspool.
But we don't need snarky posts attacking people, we don't need straw mans or ad hominems when we tell you we don't like it, and we don't need the attitude that you guys have shown.
I agreed with you on separating those conspiracy theories from this and relegating them to the conspiracy win. However, you broke the rules you set up for everyone else by calling everyone who believed in those "retards" -- I did not agree with that.
The post that sparked all this was a virtue signalling post that was poorly handled, attacking people in this community and trying to act like the people who were upset were the people doing it.
The mod hid behind statements of "I think they're shills", yet still continued in the comments section accusing other people of being the ones to do it.
When people bring how bad this is being handled up, yet another mod comes out and says "don't be dramatic" when it has totally distracted the community and created a divide that did not exist before the virtue signalling.
I will give you props for finally stickying something that isn't inflammatory towards users but I'm not sure the divide is going to be fixable if this behavior continues.
Please post this exact comment in the main stream? It's not visible to anyone here and it deserves to me. We can take the constructive criticism like this, ALL DAY, and we're grateful for it, and will be better.
EDIT, also, please know that we recently let a mod go, for, doing exactly this
Wait, was Evspra who was let go? Ahhhhhh
No, a different mod. Evspra is still on the mods list --------->
Well put!
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Thanks mate
I don't appreciate this continued misrepresentation of why people are upset. The controversy started because of the sudden announcement that one slur above all others was now forbidden with apparently no exceptions. Also, despite initially claiming that only shills were using said language, UhtredRagnarok proceeded to direct his warning at users in general with an accusatory and threatening tone (e.g. "I shouldn't have to say this," and "Stop it, or else"). When people then expressed concern that this could be the start of a slippery slope, many of his replies were dismissive, mocking, and unprofessional, which did nothing to inspire confidence and only served to fan the flames. To make matters worse, I've yet to see a single mod acknowledge this, instead opting to conduct themselves similarly and accuse other users of being racists or shills.
Regardless of the content of his message, UhtredRagnarok objectively handled the situation badly. He could've just alerted the community to the uptick in shill activity and that we should report anyone we see using the N-word, rather than insinuating that a significant number of legitimate users were using the word and threatening them with permanent bans. He also should've structured his replies to be less disparaging. Had either of these been done, this situation could've largely been avoided.
Can I use the N word if I’m quoting Joe Biden?