BREAKING: South Carolina passes bill that bans nearly all abortions.
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Abortions will still happen. They'll just be in less reliably sterile environments, performed by less educated personnel. This is the only problem I see with it.
I mean if we just criminalize all guns, then nobody will have one.
That's how fucking stupid your argument is.
Ha ha, you accidentally said something smart.
In parts of Switzerland, for example, addicts are supplied with clean heroin and needles to shoot up safely at a govt. clinic at no charge, as part of a public health initiative. It is stunningly successful.
It costs the citizens far less than arresting and incarcerating users. They get off the street, stop committing crimes to support their habit, hold down jobs, regain custody of their children, slash the risk of disease and death...and receive all the counseling and rehab they want once they decide to kick, which is usually a lot SOONER than when out on the street sucking cock for smack, where they feel trapped with no way out. The only way to cope with the psychic pain of that lifestyle is...to shoot more dope. The vicious circle never ends.
Even Conservative George Shultz, Sec of State under Drug-War Kingpin Ronald Reagan, advocated full drug legalization back in the 80s after he left office. His position was that the drug war is an abject failure; people will get what they want; keeping drugs illegal costs society more than liberty; and viewing drug addiction as a health problem instead of a criminal justice problem is the way.
Yet there are still people who continue to believe stubbornly that if you just make drugs illegal enough, stigmatize users enough, punish them and hate them hard enough, then nobody will have any.
That wasn’t the argument. No one is arguing that making something against the law will stop all occurrences of that crime.
Did you see the movie about Gosnell, the abortionist in Philadelphia? His clinic was overrun by rats (and cats chasing the rats). But he kept one room clean(er) for the white women. How reliably sterile!
Murder belongs in dark alleys and unsterile environments.
Why is that a problem to you? Should the government provide body armor and better weapons to mass shooters and assassins too so that they can more safely murder others?
Non sequitur
Nowhere did I suggest government anything
All I said was they'll still happen, it will just be worse. It's merely an observation. More injured and infected women and girls; and more unwanted babies.
Making something illegal doesn't keep people from obtaining it. That's our argument against gun control, and it makes sense.
BTW I'm against abortion. But I'm also honest: I don't pretend to have a solution.
Saying "Abortion is murder; so we should TRY these females and give them the death penalty for first degree murder" and marching long lines of girls and women to the gallows isn't a good solution.
Punishing only the female isn't fair, because she had an accomplice in her murder. And punishing only the abortion practitioner, as if the female had nothing to do with killing her baby, also isn't a fair solution. They both get the death penalty. That might reduce abortions, but I'm not sure that's the solution.
Simply saying "Just don't have sex" or "Just carry it to term, and then give it up for adoption" or "Just get married immediately if you can find the father, and learn to be parents against your will at 16" aren't real, viable solutions IMHO.
Maybe if more adoption agencies and orphanages weren't fronts for hideous child-trafficking syndicates, that option could work for the ~15% of couples who can't conceive.
The safety of the murderer and their accomplices is irrelevant to the fact that abortion is murder. They are not the victims here and deserve no safety. Also, all the stats that originated from Roe v Wade regarding abortions and dangerous back alley abortions were all lies. Also, many women get killed or severely injured during the “safe” abortions in clinics too.
Again, that’s all irrelevant to the fact that abortion is murder and no situation can justify it.
Extremist viewpoints are seldom persuasive.
Almost nobody believes women and girls should be charged with murder for terminating a pregnancy, or forced against her will to carry to term the fetus of her rapist or family member. It's just not a rational position. I understand that you believe it is, so we agree to disagree.
Sounds like you're saying "Abortion is murder; so we should TRY these females and give them the death penalty for first degree murder", and that marching long lines of girls and women to the gallows is a good solution.
Exaggerated for effect, but is that essentially accurate?