How else can corruption be eliminated? Live simple and remove them from our lives.
Money has no value, labor and goods do, however.
The value of money is an illusion and a means of control.
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Which is also a useless representation of labor and goods, but I do own silver. ?
Thx 4 the needed sanity here, fren.
Going from “tyrants are trampling on our rights” to “let’s mandate a ban of all intermediary currencies” is frighteningly unserious.
And it’s classic “horseshoe theory”. When people move so far to the “right” that they become unmoored from principles and reality, they start to sound eerily like Leftists.
And hey, if people want to live like that, to reject money and only trade by direct barter, in a free country, you can! (I just don’t think they’d like it very much... at all ?)
Investing? Like hedge funds? Good.
I mean is this really that bad of a thing? Tribal times planning 1-2 years out at most is more along what is more natural to us as humans.
At least you know who is beating you and can arrange to stop it...
With a global cabal that has access to technology and massive amounts of arms that doesn't even compare to the pea shooters we have, you don't stand a chance.
I'm not saying go back to complete square one, but we only have the illusion of money at this point and we are screwed if they decide your money isn't worth anything one day as we are so reliant on it and most people wouldn't be able to trade their time for valuable skills in the event that there wasn't a dollar.
I can get behind that for sure
Agree, but money enables this corruption. I'm thinking simplify.
Money was used as an intrinsic part of the wide spread corruption. So was human nature. So was communication. So was every single tool we have ever created.
Should we eliminate all of the tools they used to dominate our society? No more hammers. No more forks. We can't use agriculture, because they have used that against us. We can't use the wheel. They've used that against us too. No more language. No more speaking or writing. Its all been used against us.
A tool is not evil. Evil people use tools for evil purposes. We are removing their evil. A tool will be just a tool again. I'm not throwing out my tools!
Agree, I'm a gun owner. Not throwing out my tools.
I just think that the belief in a fiat currency gives people undue power, especially when they have the power to print that currency
Silver and gold are the exact opposite of a fiat currency. That is the whole point. It is exactly because they give power to everyone that the Luciferians worked so hard to take us off them and create the fiat currency we have.
A real tangible asset like silver or gold is a convenient barter intermediate. These metals were used for adornment before they were used as this intermediate. Their rarity made them very valuable v. their mass/volume, and their intrinsic value (value having nothing to do with being a barter intermediate) is what allowed them to remain a meaningful currency for all of human history up until the DS finally eliminated it 50 years ago (after a more than 200 year effort to do so).
I agree with your sentiment, but disagree with your assessment. Silver and gold have real value. People trade for them even though they aren't useful for money. People trade for them even if they have no intention of using them as a storage of wealth or for investment. People want them no matter what and they always will because they are pretty and/or have amazing physical properties for our technology. That is why they are useful as a currency and always will be (or at least for the foreseeable future).
Why do they have value? It's a belief that they do.
The only real value for humans is an expenditure of calories when you get to the root of it no?
What is value? People desired and used them before they were used as currency. Is that not value? People desired them A LOT. They are both beautiful and rare. Is that not value? They have unique physical properties (separate from their lustre) that allow our technology to work. Without them our entire society would be substantially diminished (technically speaking). Is that not value?
Is the only possible value food, and protection from the elements? We are much more complicated than just being biological factories. To ignore that obvious fact is to be a minimalist of absurd degree.
I’m torn on the silver issue. Unless it takes off, I have a hard time buying at mid $30’s considering your paying $8 oz commission. It’s been $15-22 for a long time and all the talking heads are saying $30 for the next five years... ?
PMs are Cabal money. Both gold and silver are trading at least 50% higher than their long-term averages, and every pumper on the planet is flood-filling the boards trying to unload. "Little people" in the aggragate never end up owning more than a minuscule fraction of the total amount, and so the price is always bossed by the Cabal to make or break 'em.
Or you can get in on the ground-floor of the one thing whose roll-out specifically precludes cabal whale early buy-in.
Bartering is too inefficient which is why money is necessary. However, like JP Morgan said in front of congress in 1912: "Money is gold, nothing else." A perfect money has a list of requirements and only gold - and to a lesser extent, silver - has all of the necessary properties. Both have been valuable for thousands of years and it has nothing to do with industrial uses.
Anything you can conjure out of thin air is worthless and that includes US dollars since 1971. We're about to relearn that fact as yet another generation of fiat currencies plunges to their real value of toilet paper. Only a return to gold-backed currencies can save us going forward. If talk of GESARA and the quantum financial system is true, that may well happen.
Maybe that inefficiency is necessary.
They would get things instead of the money. Nothing changed about corruption.
Look Switzerland political system. Look founding fathers times. Look Athènes too. None ideal,but what is common ?
Representatives role were never to rule,it was to REPRESENT. Represent who ? What means "representation" ? What is its purpose ?
What is democracy ? dḗmos krátos... what that mean ?
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/demos
https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/%CE%BA%CF%81%CE%AC%CF%84%CE%BF%CF%82
Power shall return to the people.
I just think corruption where there was no currency abstraction would be much more difficult.
Completely agree
Corruption is difficult too when you have to corrupt everybody or even "only" majority.
This is answer after you would answer to all questions I was asking you about. But avoid shortcut I gave you and research yourself my questions.
I do agree but the hard part is gauging value. How much is your good or service worth in terms of trading for a good or service of equal value? I’ve contemplated this many times and still haven’t come up with anything reasonable
Does it matter what the value is relative to anything other than what you are willing to pay with either a good or labor?
Well let’s say you want to acquire a good from a website. Do you just trade them something you consider equal value? What if you don’t have something to trade and can only offer a service to someone on the other side of the country? I mean I guess those things don’t really matter. I’m just more curious how it all would work logistically
Answer: it wouldn't. Because in a barter-mandated economy, websites and the Internet would simply cease to exist. (Hell, even just making pencils would be nigh impossible, too. https://mises.org/library/i-pencil )
Saying "We need to get rid of intermediary currencies" while typing on a Internet-connected computer or phone is just absurd as those advocating Communism on their MacBooks and iPhones.
It wouldn't work in the society we have today.
This is the way. We need to always be open and available to trade among ourselves. There’s gotta be a way to get masses of people onto this program
Also avoids taxation, cut out the corrupt middle man that always takes a massive cut of any transaction.
I love the barter system! I do alot of business that way.
mun monies
Precious metals