If you actually read the studies they quote, they are basic mechanistic studies testing the physical properties of cloth. They place a petri dish 8" from a person's mouth and have them cough into it, with and without a mask. That is the "study". It bears no relation to how people interact with each other in the real world.
The control they never include: are wearing masks any better than just coughing into your fucking elbow?
For the "studies" that "scientifically determined" that masks were not harmful in long term use, they had people wear fresh masks for one hour and measured their oxygen before and after. Visit any service business and tell me those people have only been wearing their sweat soaked masks for one hour.
OSHA is in the process of destroying decades of science, procedure, and policy on mask wearing right now to cover this up. Prior to Wuhan Flu, long term mask wearing always had to be accompanied by a fresh air supply because it's fucking obvious that you need fresh air.
But medically they help more than not according to science.
False. "According to science," every journal article I can find says the exact opposite. The masks are not only useless, they are medically harmful to many wearers. And this thread has 30 links I haven't even gotten to yet.
Socio economically they are more damaging than helping. But medically they help more than not according to science.
I think you better recheck your science.
If you actually read the studies they quote, they are basic mechanistic studies testing the physical properties of cloth. They place a petri dish 8" from a person's mouth and have them cough into it, with and without a mask. That is the "study". It bears no relation to how people interact with each other in the real world.
The control they never include: are wearing masks any better than just coughing into your fucking elbow?
For the "studies" that "scientifically determined" that masks were not harmful in long term use, they had people wear fresh masks for one hour and measured their oxygen before and after. Visit any service business and tell me those people have only been wearing their sweat soaked masks for one hour.
OSHA is in the process of destroying decades of science, procedure, and policy on mask wearing right now to cover this up. Prior to Wuhan Flu, long term mask wearing always had to be accompanied by a fresh air supply because it's fucking obvious that you need fresh air.
Bravo! Well said.
False. "According to science," every journal article I can find says the exact opposite. The masks are not only useless, they are medically harmful to many wearers. And this thread has 30 links I haven't even gotten to yet.
He said according to science as if he was quoting someone, not like he conducted the experiments himself.
The notion that he had conducted the experiments himself never entered my mind