You aren't aware? Probably not. Here's what is: country types have been organizing for years. In general, they have dumped large orgs like OK and III% because of the infighting and bullshit. Most have formed small groups of 6-12 and train together; there is trust within, and these little groups are becoming highly skilled. Almost all gun nuts are decent marksmen, and with training become superb special ops types. Circulating videos show these guys appearing and disappearing as if ghosts. Also, and who is behind this is unknown, many of these small groups have acquired veteran SEALs, Force Recon, Delta and others as trainers - a LOT of them. There are at least five groups in TX I know of in one area that each have a trainer. There are at least two dozen in GA that move like the SOGs I worked with in Nam (real badass characters).
I suspect that neither side really knows what will happen if the crap does hit the fan, honestly. But the major surprise will come from the goofball globalists that think they're all powerful.
If crap does hit the fan some of these groups might merge into each other out of necessity. I'm of the opinion that at the very least every militia and irregular unit in a state's borders should get together and cross train even if they don't necessarily have the same views. In a crisis they should form up into the "Militia of insert state". At that point The states can decide who wants to ally with who. I would also organize by region even. For example. Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri and maybe Arkansas militias could form into the "Army of the Lower Plains" where as Utah, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and right wing Californian militias could form the, "Death Valley Corps.". I dunno That's what I'd do. It seems logical too me. I agree though. the lack of trust and coordination is going to be a hinderance from the get go. The lack of trust thing to me stems from the fact the the leftist for years have been running ops to frame the militias. I think the neighborhood watches and militias need to train in counter-intelligence operations. That way as the groups form together they'll be able to recognize actual globalists. That would increase the trust and coordination among the legitimate militias.
What I noticed was that there was infiltration of the larger groups. Also, those who ascended into 'command' positions were more political than knowledgeable. I watched a III% group do training near here, about 25 or so, and the bunch I associate with would have utterly destroyed those boys. Saw the same with others who were training. What has been done around here is that the groups are small and very skilled, and most have acquired that popular Baofeng radio. The various groups periodically do comms, never enough to be tracked, and each group is ready to aid other groups. We are primarily community/neighborhood protection. Those I know in NC, TN, GA, and TX are likewise. As to statewide operations, while the orgs do have a lot of members, at least half will stay with smaller groups and not respond to state calls individually. Nobody trusts the state.
Yeah. I think that a lot of guys get in and it's, at the current time, more of a way for them to show some kind of dominance or to meet some kind of ulterior goals. Hopefully that will change as things become more uncertain. If there's not more coordination then we'll just disintegrate to bands of roving raiders or, in the most noble situations just a smaller local defense force countering raids from people that could have been allies while the NatPols gain control.
I'm all for personal liberty but if that happens we will have no liberty if the NatPols regain control. I get what you mean though. More ambition than knowledge sometimes. I think two things really need to happen. Militias are irregular militias this mean groups who do not see regular kinetic conflict. Most of the leaders I've seen think they're special forces. Chest puffing is awesome but realism saves lives. We need to work up to the special force thing.
The second thing is we need to read up on and learn how to wage effective irregular and asymmetric warfare. Forming regional alliances and running coordinated counter intelligence is the back bone of irregular warfare. one of the reason the VietCong were effective was because a lot of the village leaders and populations in the south were accepting of them. They might have been Buddhist or Catholic but they were Vietnamese first and foremost. That's what made Lawrence of Arabia so effective. He met with local and tribal leaders and pooled resources together with them.
The key to asymmetric warfare is hit and runs sure but it's also force multipliers in the right place. For example using trains and semis to block off sections of town, forming up in effective squads to utilize terrain, placing enough people in the right area at the right time and/or ensuring supply continuity for larger forces by forming hunting parties and economic and diplomatic task forces.
Think about it like this
Irregular- What's the over arching goal(s)?
-Regional Stability
-Alliances
-Proper Training and supply procurement
-Intelligence or Counter-Intelligence
-Insurgency or counter-insurgency
Asymmetric- How do you actually engage a large force?
-Petty Warfare
-Hit-and-run
-Ambush
-Force Multipliers and concentration
-Effective squad composition and tactics
-Disrupting movement and supply lines
Most of the militias are barely looking at how to run Asymmetric War and not how to run a concurrent irregular warfare strategies. Some might but the vast majority are the quintessential weekend warriors. Don't get me wrong the more people in the militias the better but things will go from weekend warrior fun to hardened demoralized raiding bands quickly in SHTF situations.
What strategies to use depends on the opponent though.
Local Cartels and Criminals and/or Anti-Fa/BLM- They're an insurgent group in addition they most likely can't run any concise counter-intelligence. Also with the exception of actual criminal outfits they will most likely have no support in local governments. Though, some states it might be a good idea to speak with community leaders in black communities if they bring BLM into the fold. Additionally they won't be able to take our guns and supplies with threat of law. This would be an issue with the NatPols though. So that means we run a simple;
-Counter insurgent, intelligence operation- Who are their leaders in the area and what are their proclivities? We know most of them are weak willed, drug addicted, fags so we can run smear campaigns. Demonize them more and illustrate our good and righteous cause to the public. It may be a good idea to figure out any local politicians and media types that would support them and get them out of office before any anti-fa steps foot in a red state. I'd even go so far as to frame them for crimes and shit if they can't be moved out of office the legal way.
-Infrastructure Stability-
It seems to me that a huge part of the anti-fa strategy is to enforce pro-Chinese global warming environmental policy that hobbles local economies. There has been anti-fa who HAVE been caught trying to destroy energy infrastructure. I think the issue in Florida and the poison found being put in the Texas water supply by computers are Chinese backed Anti-fa ops. We should really try to hire on to the energy sector and ensure it doesn't collapse with repeated infrastructure attacks by using the militia structure. They've been mostly ineffective but if there's a serious push into red states the frequency will increase at the very least. If younger and/or older militia member with energy sector esxperience hire on to the energy sector we can give accurate information to all local militias. Oakville's power plant and Appleton's (Which is 12 miles away) water plant might under assault with in weeks of each other but if we don't install militia and coordinate we wouldn't know until the power goes out and the water smells green.
I've already made this an essay and I didn't want too. I have more strategies. I don't know if I'll share them out of the need to use them in my neck of the woods though. Not that I don't trust you per say. This is the internet after all. You never know who's looking.
True, you never know. There are some things to consider, parallel or outside your post. Among them is that the truckers already are set to cut cities off. As to LE and the idea of pols being able to take guns, around here the LE has been told (actually, pretty much throughout MO) that if they plan on being LE when TSHTF, they will be shot on sight. In the local agencies, most are carrying civvies with them, because they are on our side. I know of only two in a 50 mile radius who will attempt to enforce.
The words have been spread here that if you belong to a city, Kansas City, Springfield, St Louis, you better stay there and not try to come outside. While it may sound a bit wild west, I have no choice but to warn the creeps off with a couple over-their-heads shots. They're generally chickenshit; they don't know where the shots originate (just about everyone here has a can of one sort or another) but they hear the bullet path. All the people I know locally (25 mile radius) are capable of 500 yard shots, and most outfitted years ago. Also, most are woodsmen and can hide; most will, and any army coming through would suffer badly. We also have a substantial number who are capable with 'field expedient' types of things. In other words, the entire state is locked, excepting the liberal cities.
Some of my group were Nam vets, myself included, and are quite familiar with tactics going well beyond the current 'asymmetric' stuff. We also know that the VC took a very bad hit during Tet 68, when they were inducted into the NVA push. Afterwards, VC were no longer considered viable, and those of us involved in the now have done instructions on exactly that. Your ref to hit and run is good; a sniper or two doing that can effectively control a large area, allowing other tactics to unfold. Some of us have studied the military for decades, including the art of war stuff; we have generally concluded that knowing Tsu is a good thing, since the enemy will be using it, and we can predict their tactics.
Anyway, this is a situ in which Yamamoto's statement is accurate. There WILL be a rifle behind every blade of grass, and no force internal or external will be able to subdue that in the final analysis.
You aren't aware? Probably not. Here's what is: country types have been organizing for years. In general, they have dumped large orgs like OK and III% because of the infighting and bullshit. Most have formed small groups of 6-12 and train together; there is trust within, and these little groups are becoming highly skilled. Almost all gun nuts are decent marksmen, and with training become superb special ops types. Circulating videos show these guys appearing and disappearing as if ghosts. Also, and who is behind this is unknown, many of these small groups have acquired veteran SEALs, Force Recon, Delta and others as trainers - a LOT of them. There are at least five groups in TX I know of in one area that each have a trainer. There are at least two dozen in GA that move like the SOGs I worked with in Nam (real badass characters).
I suspect that neither side really knows what will happen if the crap does hit the fan, honestly. But the major surprise will come from the goofball globalists that think they're all powerful.
If crap does hit the fan some of these groups might merge into each other out of necessity. I'm of the opinion that at the very least every militia and irregular unit in a state's borders should get together and cross train even if they don't necessarily have the same views. In a crisis they should form up into the "Militia of insert state". At that point The states can decide who wants to ally with who. I would also organize by region even. For example. Texas, Oklahoma, Kansas, Missouri and maybe Arkansas militias could form into the "Army of the Lower Plains" where as Utah, New Mexico, Nevada, Arizona and right wing Californian militias could form the, "Death Valley Corps.". I dunno That's what I'd do. It seems logical too me. I agree though. the lack of trust and coordination is going to be a hinderance from the get go. The lack of trust thing to me stems from the fact the the leftist for years have been running ops to frame the militias. I think the neighborhood watches and militias need to train in counter-intelligence operations. That way as the groups form together they'll be able to recognize actual globalists. That would increase the trust and coordination among the legitimate militias.
What I noticed was that there was infiltration of the larger groups. Also, those who ascended into 'command' positions were more political than knowledgeable. I watched a III% group do training near here, about 25 or so, and the bunch I associate with would have utterly destroyed those boys. Saw the same with others who were training. What has been done around here is that the groups are small and very skilled, and most have acquired that popular Baofeng radio. The various groups periodically do comms, never enough to be tracked, and each group is ready to aid other groups. We are primarily community/neighborhood protection. Those I know in NC, TN, GA, and TX are likewise. As to statewide operations, while the orgs do have a lot of members, at least half will stay with smaller groups and not respond to state calls individually. Nobody trusts the state.
Yeah. I think that a lot of guys get in and it's, at the current time, more of a way for them to show some kind of dominance or to meet some kind of ulterior goals. Hopefully that will change as things become more uncertain. If there's not more coordination then we'll just disintegrate to bands of roving raiders or, in the most noble situations just a smaller local defense force countering raids from people that could have been allies while the NatPols gain control.
I'm all for personal liberty but if that happens we will have no liberty if the NatPols regain control. I get what you mean though. More ambition than knowledge sometimes. I think two things really need to happen. Militias are irregular militias this mean groups who do not see regular kinetic conflict. Most of the leaders I've seen think they're special forces. Chest puffing is awesome but realism saves lives. We need to work up to the special force thing.
The second thing is we need to read up on and learn how to wage effective irregular and asymmetric warfare. Forming regional alliances and running coordinated counter intelligence is the back bone of irregular warfare. one of the reason the VietCong were effective was because a lot of the village leaders and populations in the south were accepting of them. They might have been Buddhist or Catholic but they were Vietnamese first and foremost. That's what made Lawrence of Arabia so effective. He met with local and tribal leaders and pooled resources together with them.
The key to asymmetric warfare is hit and runs sure but it's also force multipliers in the right place. For example using trains and semis to block off sections of town, forming up in effective squads to utilize terrain, placing enough people in the right area at the right time and/or ensuring supply continuity for larger forces by forming hunting parties and economic and diplomatic task forces.
Think about it like this
Irregular- What's the over arching goal(s)? -Regional Stability -Alliances -Proper Training and supply procurement -Intelligence or Counter-Intelligence -Insurgency or counter-insurgency
Asymmetric- How do you actually engage a large force? -Petty Warfare -Hit-and-run -Ambush -Force Multipliers and concentration -Effective squad composition and tactics -Disrupting movement and supply lines
Most of the militias are barely looking at how to run Asymmetric War and not how to run a concurrent irregular warfare strategies. Some might but the vast majority are the quintessential weekend warriors. Don't get me wrong the more people in the militias the better but things will go from weekend warrior fun to hardened demoralized raiding bands quickly in SHTF situations.
What strategies to use depends on the opponent though.
Local Cartels and Criminals and/or Anti-Fa/BLM- They're an insurgent group in addition they most likely can't run any concise counter-intelligence. Also with the exception of actual criminal outfits they will most likely have no support in local governments. Though, some states it might be a good idea to speak with community leaders in black communities if they bring BLM into the fold. Additionally they won't be able to take our guns and supplies with threat of law. This would be an issue with the NatPols though. So that means we run a simple; -Counter insurgent, intelligence operation- Who are their leaders in the area and what are their proclivities? We know most of them are weak willed, drug addicted, fags so we can run smear campaigns. Demonize them more and illustrate our good and righteous cause to the public. It may be a good idea to figure out any local politicians and media types that would support them and get them out of office before any anti-fa steps foot in a red state. I'd even go so far as to frame them for crimes and shit if they can't be moved out of office the legal way.
-Infrastructure Stability- It seems to me that a huge part of the anti-fa strategy is to enforce pro-Chinese global warming environmental policy that hobbles local economies. There has been anti-fa who HAVE been caught trying to destroy energy infrastructure. I think the issue in Florida and the poison found being put in the Texas water supply by computers are Chinese backed Anti-fa ops. We should really try to hire on to the energy sector and ensure it doesn't collapse with repeated infrastructure attacks by using the militia structure. They've been mostly ineffective but if there's a serious push into red states the frequency will increase at the very least. If younger and/or older militia member with energy sector esxperience hire on to the energy sector we can give accurate information to all local militias. Oakville's power plant and Appleton's (Which is 12 miles away) water plant might under assault with in weeks of each other but if we don't install militia and coordinate we wouldn't know until the power goes out and the water smells green.
I've already made this an essay and I didn't want too. I have more strategies. I don't know if I'll share them out of the need to use them in my neck of the woods though. Not that I don't trust you per say. This is the internet after all. You never know who's looking.
True, you never know. There are some things to consider, parallel or outside your post. Among them is that the truckers already are set to cut cities off. As to LE and the idea of pols being able to take guns, around here the LE has been told (actually, pretty much throughout MO) that if they plan on being LE when TSHTF, they will be shot on sight. In the local agencies, most are carrying civvies with them, because they are on our side. I know of only two in a 50 mile radius who will attempt to enforce.
The words have been spread here that if you belong to a city, Kansas City, Springfield, St Louis, you better stay there and not try to come outside. While it may sound a bit wild west, I have no choice but to warn the creeps off with a couple over-their-heads shots. They're generally chickenshit; they don't know where the shots originate (just about everyone here has a can of one sort or another) but they hear the bullet path. All the people I know locally (25 mile radius) are capable of 500 yard shots, and most outfitted years ago. Also, most are woodsmen and can hide; most will, and any army coming through would suffer badly. We also have a substantial number who are capable with 'field expedient' types of things. In other words, the entire state is locked, excepting the liberal cities.
Some of my group were Nam vets, myself included, and are quite familiar with tactics going well beyond the current 'asymmetric' stuff. We also know that the VC took a very bad hit during Tet 68, when they were inducted into the NVA push. Afterwards, VC were no longer considered viable, and those of us involved in the now have done instructions on exactly that. Your ref to hit and run is good; a sniper or two doing that can effectively control a large area, allowing other tactics to unfold. Some of us have studied the military for decades, including the art of war stuff; we have generally concluded that knowing Tsu is a good thing, since the enemy will be using it, and we can predict their tactics.
Anyway, this is a situ in which Yamamoto's statement is accurate. There WILL be a rifle behind every blade of grass, and no force internal or external will be able to subdue that in the final analysis.