I've seen a lot of worry about the vaccine causing some prion disease. Do these fears have any basis in biology? Is there evidence to support these fears? Lets look at it a little bit.
The article put forth that discussed this makes several errors. It incorrectly states that the SARS-cov-2 vaccine has been shown to write to DNA. This is 100% false. The experiment cited begins with the premise that because people who have had Covid are later getting diagnosed with covid again (by the fraudulent PCR test!!!). They conjecture this is because the virus (not the vaccine) is being written to the DNA. The fact that the PCR test is shown to be completely fubar is not part of their discussion. This by itself is a huge red flag, but lets dig deeper.
The paper goes on to show that under lab conditions, when you take away the safeguards that exist in cells in vivo, inducing mitosis while under viral load, and introducing exogenous tools to make it happen (induced expression of HIV and LINE-1 Reverse Transcriptase) that the virus can write to DNA. Well of course it can, you just made it do it. It then showed that they got a positive result by only doing the first (induced mitosis while under viral load). But this is still the removal of a safeguard that is in place in vivo, and their positive results signal was so low as to be ridiculous. That doesn't mean it didn't happen, but if it did it was such a small occurrence as to have insufficient statistically meaningful results.
Then the other paper they are making the connection with to "prove" their overall theory of "causes neurodegenerative disease" is only showing a sequence similarity with another protein that can misfold, which can eventually lead to neurodegenerative diseases after the long term accumulation of these proteins. There are several problems with that paper as well, or at least with the conclusions that are being drawn from it:
- This theory ALSO requires the vaccine mRNA to write to DNA on a large scale. There is literally zero evidence to support such a claim, and biologically it makes zero sense
- it requires the same misfolding in the SARS spike protein as in the proteins that cause ALS etc. The problem here is two fold:
- The folding of proteins into their tertiary structure is a process that is dependent on OTHER parts of the protein. Just because there is a sequence similarity in one part, doesn't mean when it goes to fold up the forces of other domains will cause the same effect in the final structure. In fact, such a thing is very unlikely. More important, there has been no evidence to support such an idea. This was a THEORY put forth by someone who saw a sequence similarity.
- The spike proteins are TRANSMEMBRANE proteins, not cytosolic proteins. Transmembrane proteins are translated (created) directly into the membrane. This precludes them accumulating in the cytosol to cause the problems associated with these other diseases.
- The cell has an entire system put into place to take care of misfolded proteins. These misfoldings happen all the time. Pretty much all the time they are taken care of. The disease states from misfolded proteins are from the accumulation of such proteins, not in them existing in the first place. In these cases the misfoldings happen faster than the mechanisms in place can take care of them. There is not even a theoretical way that such accumulation can happen faster than their removal in the case of the vaccine mRNA.
- This effect would have to be taking place ON A LARGE SCALE, INSIDE THE BRAIN. This is incredibly unlikely, to the point of being absurd. There is no biological basis for such an effect to be happening in multiple, localized neurons. Even a single one of these lipid nanoparticles being transcytosed through the BBB is unlikely (though not impossible). This whole brain infection thing just adds several more biological improbabilities (virtual impossibilities in some cases) to the theory.
In order to show that the spike protein ACTUALLY misfolds in a similar manner, it would require doing ACTUAL experiments. Is it something worth looking into? Maybe, I guess, meh, but the paper did NOT show anything of the sort that is being claimed.
So both papers did not really say what the article writer is saying they said. The article both made mistakes (big enough to make the entire argument fall apart), AND false extrapolations (each of which also makes the entire argument fall apart).
This conjecture has no biological basis. That doesn't mean that biology can't be surprising. Biology is surprising more often than not. But without actual evidence of a problem, indulging in such fantasies to the point of being afraid of them is discrediting legitimate concerns. These ideas might be put forth in earnest, or they could be nefarious. Either way indulging in fantasies without evidence has a harmful effect on everyone.
I don't know about that. Several of the doctors who were warning about prion illnesses... have been right so far. Several of them predicted serious blood clotting issues months before it became a thing.
I do know that the ones selling the vaccine, or "informing us" about Covid-19, have been wrong consistently.
I'll believe the doctors who have been right about the vax symptoms.
I have a couple problems with this argument.
If you wish to present some actual evidence to support the claim I will be happy to look at it. If you wish to present more conjecture I will also look at it, though i have probably already seen it. Nevertheless, if it will help put these fears to rest I will address any specifics you want.
What is your expertise? Why do you know better than the M.D. who wrote the original research paper? And the other doctors. I'm not being snarky. You seem to be absolutely certain you know better than all these other people. If you stated your credentials somewhere, I missed it.
I'm a researcher in cell biology and bio-nanotechnology.
I'm not sure which original research paper you are talking about. The person who wrote the article that made a (inappropriate) connection between TWO DIFFERENT papers was wrong. I pointed out what the papers actually said and pointed out what they didn't actually say to show how the connection of the article author (some random person on the internet who wrote that crap) was wrong.
Thanks, this is good to know.
A lot of the info about the vaccines, depopulation, prion disease, etc. has been so over the top that it just didn't make any sense to me.
The vaccines are still experimental and voluntary, and for a disease that has such a high survival rate (especially if vitamin C and D deficiencies can be avoided), I don't believe they are even necessary.
I have other questions regarding why the vaccines are being pushed so hard by the DS propagandists though... we still need a lot more info to figure out what is really going on.
I do not think this is the first time. I think they high jacked vaccines a long time ago for nefarious purposes. It gives them all kinds of benefits.
It's demoralizing, and encourages essential steps towards slavery (giving up freedoms for security). It causes cognitive dissonance, especially when the evidence suggests the vaccine is completely unnecessary, and perhaps even more harmful than the disease itself. This state of mind causes people to stop asking questions, and conform. It encourages people to give up their critical thinking skills. It is another level of control.
It also helps separate out the population into willing slaves, and those that would resist slavery. The second category can then be killed, just like what happened in soviet Russia and China.
Vaccines also push the ideas of "hidden enemy" and allow for "saving" from those hidden enemies without any actual proof of saving or enemy. Its an easy narrative to spin.
They are also a gateway to REAL biological control. When we get used to vaccines every year, how many would want an implant that tells you if you need it at all? Once you get the implant, its all over but the crying.
Vaccines are the perfect gateway for all of the goals of the Cabal. I don't think this vaccine is anything other than what it says it is, but the real effects from this vaccine are enough, and it starts the ball rolling into perfect slavery, where no one will ever question again, and no one will have the power to resist even if they do.
Does this mean that you think pathogenic priming is an accident rather than a depopulation feature of the vaccine? What do you think about the rumored effect of the spike protein on Syncytin 1 and 2 and infertility?
We know the cabal has used vaccines to make people infertile before, using HCG I think
Here is an example I just used on a comment on another post
https://thenewamerican.com/doctors-un-vaccines-in-kenya-used-to-sterilize-women/
I think it is more likely to be a happy, but minor, benefit for those wishing to depopulate. A coronavirus (and not a flu variant) may have been selected as the weapon of choice because of this. I don't know though. I do not think it is going to be a major problem regardless, only because if it was we would already be seeing the effects widespread.
That doesn't mean I don't think it will be a problem at all. I have seen evidence that supports it being a problem, but 0.5% of vaccine recipients (an approximation based on too little data, but at least some data) is not a real depopulation level event. Its more a scare, and devastating for enough people to have a real impact on the world. I do worry that this might be the "scare event" that is necessary.
To put this into perspective, if that initial estimate is correct, if 3.5B get vaccinated (~half the worlds population), that would result in 17.5M deaths. That's brutal, and almost everyone will know someone who dies from such an event, but it isn't depopulation, its just enough to scare the shit out of everyone.
Such an event, if it happens could be beneficial to both white hats and black hats. I won't speculate further on that (all of that is very speculative), but I will put it out there for cogitation.
Thank you for your very thoughtful reply
I have a couple more questions if you have time:
I wonder why they have gone the mRNA / DNA route and for the first time got human cells to produce viral spike proteins if they did not want special effects such as pathogenic priming.
Why not use an old school vaccine?
If you say - because they never developed a coronavirus old school vaccine then I would ask - why did they release a coronavirus rather than a different class of virus for their initial bioweapon.
They have absolutely produced old school coronavirus vaccines. They have been trying to make a cold vaccine for decades. THOSE were the evidences of pathogenic priming that we have. We do not have any for these new vaccines. It may even be that part of their goal was to reduce this effect. I'm not saying it was, but its not impossible.
Indeed if the effect is really reduced to 0.5% as I suspect (with insufficient evidence) then this technology DID reduce the effect by an order of magnitude. Its still wildly unacceptable losses for the current application, but it would be a substantial improvement.
This technology (if it worked well enough) would actually be really useful as a general template for other immunotherapies. In fact it was first designed to be a cancer immunotherapy. It has a lot of potential applications. That is one reason I think it is what it says it is. They wanted to test it. This technology opens up a lot of doors, both good and bad.
All the safe and straightforward therapies including HCQ and ivermectin have been suppressed in order to test a technology?
Testing a new experimental technology by lies and coercion on a large part of the population with no idea how many it will kill or incapacitate. How can they justify this for "potential applications"?
I think you are right that the cabal wants to install mandatory vaccines and they intend to put other things in the injections in the future as the see fit and as a part of a larger control system.
No. Look at my other posts in this thread. I talk about other motivations for vaccines in general, and this vaccine specifically.
None of the plans of the cabal fit with a simple cheap treatment.
I never meant to imply any sound justification, just an argument for why it is what it purports.
I've looked at the two proteins and their sequences. Upon inspection the spike protein just doesn't have enough similarity to be a problem I don't think. They are actually quite different, even though they are in the same family of proteins. In general, same family rarely has the same immune response unless they are very closely related. These are not. Anti bodies are just too specific. This is not imo a legitimate fear.
Having said that, I think its legitimate enough that it should be tested. But after looking at them both, this concern is very low on my priority list.
I hope you don't mind me replying to so many of your comments.
I am concerned about the fertility issue for two reasons:
There seem to be cases of changed menstruation and there seem to be cases of miscarriage both occurring after vaccination. I don't have figures for them. Both of these reduce fertility and if they are caused by the "vaccines" then the effect is occurring whether or not it involves antibodies to Syncytin 1 or Syncytin 2
Reduced fertility has seemed to be the goal of some vaccine programs in the past, Notably in Kenya and India involving the hormone HCG added to the injection. The UN, Bill Gates and the pharma industry have form for doing this and state it as their intention in tangential ways (Like Bill Gates talking about wanting to reduce population by vaccines in his TED talk).
I worry a lot about the fertility aspect, I think it's a main aim, it's just working out how and when they intend to go about it.
I have seen anecdotal evidence of this, and it seems to be fairly common, though I will wait for further evidence to say anything about this.
The study found here matches the published information on average rate of miscarriages found here (and other places).
The study suggested there was no discernable evidence of increased problems with pregnancy from the mother taking the vaccine. I haven't seen any other evidence to support the idea that the vaccine is causing pregnancy problems.
Agreed. Vaccine technology was highjacked long ago by the Cabal I think for nefarious purposes. That doesn't mean all instances of vaccines, or vaccine technologies are necessarily bad. I think the first vaccine probably saved many millions of people for example. But they have added some bad shit, they have used it for the wrong reasons, and it may be that many vaccines do more harm than good even if they are doing exactly what they are supposed to be doing, by weakening our innate immune system.
Its a legitimate concern for vaccines in general, as well as the plans of the cabal. I have not seen legitimate concerns for the coronavirus vaccines however. The jury is still out on some of the concerns, but there has been no evidence presented that doesn't have flaws in assumptions of biology or incorrect thinking on what the technology can do. Even still, an eye should be kept on it. The menstrual issues may provide some light.
Thanks Slyver,
Oh I have legitimate concerns because fertility damage may be done by the time we detect it, and it's on the cabal's bucket list.
I think what you mean is that you don't see the exact mechanism by which it can happen and you don't see incontrovertible data that fertility damage has occurred due to the "vaccines".
I'm not going to cancel my concerns on that basis but your analysis sharpens my thinking and makes me feel more hopeful
Yes.
I haven't seen any GOOD data that supports the claim at all. Incontrovertible is a whole other level of evidence.
I strongly encourage not taking my word for anything. It is nothing more than an informed opinion and/or presentation of evidence to support it. Questions are always welcome. It enhances my arguments and sometimes makes me reconsider them. I learn in the process of answering questions.
The way I understand how this 'vaccine' works is that it uses mrna to make the spike protein. So it gets into a cell, makes this spike protein over and over, until the cell dies, releasing all the spike protein to make the immune response attack the spike protein, and it identifies that spike protein. couple of problems, how do you turn it off, and what happens to that spike protein when it attaches to cells in your lungs and other places, that have that receptor. Whos to say there's not some other engineered virus sitting back waiting to attach to that specialize spike receptor. Nope its still experimental, and I will choose to remain in the control group.
I'm not sure cell death is certain, though that is the most likely outcome of an immune response. Nevertheless, most of what you said up to this point is true enough.
It turns itself off. The half-life of the mRNA is about one day. Within a week or two its pretty much all gone, and is increasingly less effective every day.
In general, cells don't go attacking other cells. I'm not saying this is impossible, if say a cell of the immune system is the recipient of one of the lipid nanoparticles containing the mRNA, which almost certainly happens, but then it would need to go to the cell expressing the ACE-2 protein, for which there is no apparent motivation, then it would need to bind, and... Then what?
Unlike viruses or lipid-nanoparticles that are small enough to be endocytosed or otherwise be induced to release their contents into a cell, other cells interact by sending each other signals. They don't start eating each other. The ACE-2 expressing cell certainly isn't likely to be eating the mobile immune cell, on the contrary the opposite is likely to happen (and even then, there is no apparent motivation to begin this process). That unlikely hypothetical would result in the death of the ACE-2 expressing cell, not the creation of it becoming a spike protein factory.
In other words, there is no reason to think this could be cell-to-cell infectious.
These things don't stay "attached' forever... On the contrary, such attachment is very brief. If endocytosis doesn't start reasonably soon, its not likely to happen at all (with that specific connection). This idea just doesn't have any basis in biology. So I guess, biology would be the "who" who says.
I am 100% with you there. I am trying to reduce what I see as likely false fears, so we can remain focused on the real ones that exist. If easily proven false fears take root, it delegitimizes the real fears we discuss to externals who look in, i.e. new people, or active agents of the opposition.
In general, cells don't go attacking other cells. I'm not saying this is impossible, if say a cell of the immune system is the recipient of one of the lipid nanoparticles containing the mRNA, which almost certainly happens, but then it would need to go to the cell expressing the ACE-2 protein, for which there is no apparent motivation, then it would need to bind, and... Then what?
Unlike viruses or lipid-nanoparticles that are small enough to be endocytosed or otherwise be induced to release their contents into a cell, other cells interact by sending each other signals. They don't start eating each other. The ACE-2 expressing cell certainly isn't likely to be eating the mobile immune cell, on the contrary the opposite is likely to happen (and even then, there is no apparent motivation to begin this process). That unlikely hypothetical would result in the death of the ACE-2 expressing cell, not the creation of it becoming a spike protein factory.
In other words, there is no reason to think this could be cell-to-cell infectious.
However, no one mentions that cell death can result in over production of the spike protein, doesn't matter what cell it is. Now all these generated spike proteins are released into the body... looking for ACE-2 receptors. in theory..and yes this is a theory, the immune system will attack said spike proteins, no mention of where they might be when this happens. Stuck to an ace-2 receptor thats lung tissue...
I have no idea where you are getting such an idea, but even if true (for which there is no impetus nor evidence) then what?
Spike proteins are a transmembrane protein. They live INSIDE the membrane. So you are suggesting that a transmembrane protein that only can exist in a membrane is making little bubbles of cells float throughout the body?
Cell death is a process where the cell is broken up into small bubbles (blebs) and engulfed by the cells designed to eat them. The contents are then destroyed. They never enter the cytoplasm of the phagocyte (the cell doing the eating). There are no free floating spike proteins. Its basically impossible. Could there be free floating blebs with spike proteins? I find that extremely unlikely but I'll give it to you. What then? Why then it still gets eaten.
But lets say this hypothetical bleb escapes all that, what then? How does it find an ACE-2 receptor to dock to? That's a miracle worth solving.
So it goes into the blood stream (by some miracle) to seek out these receptors and gets eaten by cells in the blood designed for that express purpose. That's what happens to foreign bodies in the blood.
Bummer.
But this is the miracle bleb. Lets say it escapes all that.
Somehow it finds a path out of the blood vessels into the lumen of some tissue. Not going to happen, but I'll give it to you for this discussion.
Lets say, by some miracle it just so happened to be in a place with cells where ACE-2 is expressed and this theoretical bleb, that made it all this way, has finally found its mate.
Guess what happens? It gets eaten and destroyed. There is no mechanism on the spike protein to release anything into the cytoplasm of the new cells. That's what the rest of the virus is for. This miraculous spike protein expressing bleb would dock, be endocytosed, and consumed in the resulting lysosome.
Bummer.
The spike protein is not a virus. Its not a miracle. Its just a protein that docks to a receptor. What happens next is whatever would normally happen. If the spike protein is attached to a virus, it does its virus thing. If the spike protein is attached to the dead bleb, it gets eaten. Its that simple.
You know more about this than I do. So we get the terminology right, to make sure am expressing my view, and you can tell me thats not how it works. so the mRNA gets into a cell,and hijacks the manufacturing process like 'virus' to make the spike protein. how many will it make? if they are in the cell, won't they stay inside ( the manufactured spike protein) what causes them to be seen by the white blood cells,(again the spike protein). Once the body recognizes the spike protein it can make an antibody to gum it up and be removed as it is found (clumps of antibodies around that foreign protein. The problem I see is that there is no information on how this vaccine 'works' its a trust us kind of thing. I have listened to a few doctors explain how it works and that's where I have formed my hypothesis. the thing is we have seen evidence of blood clots in dead patients, so somehow its causing a immune response. with me so far?
Nobody knows what is in this vaccine or what exactly it can do to us except the ones who created it.
And I wouldn't bet that even they know for sure. This whole virus/injection thing is driven by a fair amount of hubris, and hubris always screws things up with unexpected consequences.
Fair point. I think it is unlikely that it is other than what it says however.
I think they want to test this technology. It opens up a lot of doors for future human experiments that are much more nefarious, as well as potential actual helpful uses.
They also are not in complete control and the risk of getting caught is too high. If I had a sample I could analyze it completely. Anyone could. I don't care to do that because I'm not in any way concerned about this. There are too many reasons for it to be what it says it is, including the evidence of the harmful results.
I have a suspicion that the companies are shipping different preparations in different batch numbers and testing all sorts of things in parallel on an unsuspecting public and quietly collecting the results. This would have the benefit of confusing any studies of the vaccine's side effects because the patchiness of who got what would make the side effects look as if they have a different cause.
This is a possibility. I would need evidence to support this supposition to move it up to a real concern, but its certainly something worth watching out for.
Thanks Slyver,
Thank you for going into the detail of this. You've taken a load off my mind.
I guess the seizures, Bells Palsy which occur soon after "vaccine" injection have another cause, perhaps inflammatory.
I think many of the problems that happen are autoimmune related (inflammation is part of an immune response). There are other factors, like histamine reactions that have legitimacy, but the majority seem to be related to the very function the vaccines are designed to induce; an autoimmune response.
First of all no one said prions are in the vaccine. There was a paper that speculated and said they speculated that in order to hide prions that will lay dormant for a set amount of time they need the vaccine to stay about minus 70 degrees and lo and behold this vaccine needs to stay minus 70. The reason for this is the prions will not show in an analysis if it stays at this cold temperature. They said possible not that it will be. You are confused many doctors scientists and microbiologists have said they have tried to come up with an MRNA since sars which is also covid. They have not been able to do it because even though all their animal tests showed promise as soon as they infected them with another virus all the animals died. So there fore the vaccine is a death shot. The MRNA is designed to rewrite your DNA period none of the vaccine manufacturers have denied that. So those getting the vaccine may be ok today but as soon as they are hit with a wild virus they will likely die, the vaccine is made for the orignal covid period. The only way around that is to keep giving boosters every year.
And neither did I.
I have seen no paper that said this, and such a thing doesn't make any sense to me, at least as you have stated it. If you have a paper that you think said this, please present it.
You mean they tried to come up with a vaccine (not mRNA) and they failed. This is not entirely true. They came up with several REAL vaccines.
What the tests showed was that the vaccines they had developed caused an effect called pathogenic priming, which encourages an extreme autoimmune response that caused death in some cases. On average the probability of death upon later encountering the real virus was about 5%. There was only one test (that I know of off the top of my head) where ALL vaccine recipients died. Suggesting this 100% death rate happened in the numerous vaccines is misinformation, and easily proven untrue. Just do a search for "coronavirus vaccine" on scholar.google.com. Set the search date before 2018 or you will get a whole lot of crap about Covid-19.
They have all denied that. They have denied it because it has no basis in biology. For example, from Moderna he talks about "code". Articles written about it mistakenly think when talking about "changing code" he means DNA. He does not, and in context it is obvious he is speaking about altering the SOFTWARE of the cell. mRNA is largely considered to be software of the cell. It is thought of in this manner because it is a perfect analogy. DNA on the other hand can be thought of as the HARD DRIVE. Again, this is a perfect analogy. Extrapolating talking about changing software code with changing hard drive storage is the fault of the interpreter. The Moderna rep who said it did NOT misspeak. Making him say something he did not mean in context is called disinformation.
They MAY die, and pathogenic priming is a real concern. HOWEVER, pathogenic priming is NOT prion disease. Thus prion disease is a FALSE concern that delegitimizes the REAL concern of pathogenic priming.
This pathogenic priming concern however is almost certainly not going to be THAT bad because otherwise we would already know. Vaccinated people would ALREADY be dropping like flies, and they are not.
The idea of "mutations" is also a false fear. It has nothing to do with reality. A gain of function mutation is so unlikely as to be laughable. Its not impossible, but they just don't happen that often. That is why they invested so much time and money to MAKE it happen in a lab. They may have used HIV code to do it. They certainly took pieces from other viruses and meshed them together. THAT is the real fear, not random gain of function mutations. THAT is the scam, designed to discredit real info.
And once again, none of this has anything to do with very likely false claims of prion disease.
I'll tell you this. If anyone thinks theybare publishing the truth Bout any of it they're crazy.
I agree with this statement. That doesn't mean we can't weed out disinformation designed to (or unintentionally resulting in) discrediting real concerns that we can't dismiss.
I'm curious your thoughts on the novel infection mechanism. I have seen reports of false positive HIV in patient testing. Do you believe this is the novel infection mechanism.
If it is, and you get vaccinated or get the virus, would this open up 'pathways' or infection vectors similar to HIV / AIDS?
HIV includes within its genome an essential tool required to write itself to the DNA (HIV Reverse Transcriptase). Most viruses do not have this type of technology. RNA viruses specifically, with the exception of HIV rarely have a permanent imprint on the DNA. Its still relatively rare in HIV, but it happens often enough that its problematic.
So in answer to the question:
No. There is no connection between the SARS virus or the mRNA in the vaccines and the mechanism by which HIV writes itself to DNA (the main problem with curing HIV).
I read the paper a while ago that looked into it, but if I remember correctly there was a section of the spike protein that was very close to HIV that was itself responsible for an increased binding affinity to the ACE-2 protein, causing it to be more infectious than other SARS in the past.
In fact, the reason that SARS-cov-1 was not a problem even though they were playing it up is because it just wasn't very infectious. My suspicions (without more evidence) is that SARS-cov-2 and the HIV similar section of the spike protein was a DESIGN of SARS-cov-2 to improve over the failed SARS-cov-1 that they tried to use as a pandemic instigator 20ish years ago.
Other than that small section of protein (only a few amino acids) there are no other similarities between SARS-cov-2 and HIV that I am aware of.
Thank you for your reply. I'm guessing based on your response that you believe the virus was engineered and released on purpose.
I know there was some work done at some point on using the HIV infection mechanism for drug or vaccine delivery, that's why I asked in combination with the false positive HIV tests...
Either way thank you for bringing you expertise to the forum.
I think there is substantial evidence to support that claim.
In the case of the coronavirus vaccine, I think it was just an antibody test for the receptor protein. If the specific antibody for that particular HIV test matched the specific portion of SARS that matches HIV (a very small portion, but enough to potentially match an Ab test), that would produce a false positive.
Its not anything concerning, except in that it is further evidence of a lab created SARS-cov-2 virus.
so now that it has been said that spike proteins do escape from infected cells, where does that change your hypothesis? also what happens to a cell making these that gets infected by a live virus?
And where is this shown? Where is the test evidence that supports this? The spike protein that the mRNA makes is specifically designed to block the cleavage site making it impossible, even in the most abnormal case.
Of course things can go wrong, nothing in biology is certain. It's conceivable it could happen one out of a gajillion times, but I have seen no credible evidence to support your statement. If it exists, please show me the experimental report so that I can examine their data and experimental methods.
Any cell making the spike protein from the mRNA should be killed by the immune system. That is after all the entire purpose of the technology. Further, any cell that is infected by the virus would also be killed, either by the virus or by the immune system, because that is how both viruses and immune systems work. This hypothetical "co-infection" would have to happen within a few weeks of getting the jab, since the mRNA is almost certainly completely gone after 2-3 weeks. So its a narrow window, but most likely the outcome would be the death of the cell.
seems like my hypothesis was right, I am not and have never been in the medical field, this is just knowing the science.