Lovely discussion I just had about facemasks
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So wearing a mask is like pissing your pants. I see the parallels. I’m convinced. Great argument.
The CCO of my former company knows a guy that knows a guy that died of a covid induced heart attack 4 weeks after being cleared of the coof. "Covid affects everyone differently".
Fuck you Eric!!!
Does he wear a mask when he's peeing on people?
It's a very specific fetish apparently.
First, I love your responses. Hilarious.
Second, this guy literally proved the point of your first statement. You said “Wear a mask if you’re scared. They work... right?”
In his analogy, you could still be naked and him wearing pants, he pees, you don’t get wet. He does.
Idiot.
And he should keep his weird fetishes to himself, what a pervert.
I love the oblivious double down
Huge fan myself, use it often.
To a non disabled observer, their ignorance of your feigned obliviousness really accentuates the ridiculousness of their position nicely.
If it means anything, with your name, I didn't picture it as two guys haha.
Never even thought about it I just got a real feminine vibe. These days I don't bother asking. They give off a fem vibe I have to assume they're a female.
I didn't either until I read the post from expert testimony. Then I had to reread the whole thing.
This implies only that those with disease should wear a mask. You arent pissing if you arent ill in this analogy.
Reddit. There's your mistake right there.
This makes the assumption pants are capable of stopping or slowing down liquid which is true. No easily available mask like an N95 is capable of slowing or stopping an airborne coronavirus. They are three times smaller than its best filter rating.
The virus doesn't just float through the ether. Let that sink in.
It's embedded in water droplets that exit the body with the most force via sneezing/coughing. And those masks will absorb most of the water droplets.
I'm still not worried about the Rona because I'm not a fat diabetic, but you need to understand how these things work.
Show me the evidence to support that statement.
Here is evidence that says the opposite. This is the only study that I have seen that ACTUALLY looks at viral transmission (people getting sick) through various types of masks.
While this sounds like it makes sense, without actual evidence, such statements are meaningless from a scientific perspective, and harmful if used to control a societies actions.
The truth is, viruses can exit through breath without having a large water droplet envelope and evidence suggests that is their primary mode of transmission for these types of viruses. In other words, the evidence suggests they exit as just viruses, and viruses are thousands of times smaller than the pore size of the finest "approved" mask.
Aerosolization (the ability to travel far) is also dependent on size, so those viral particles that pass easily through masks, also get caught in air currents and travel the furthest, so social distancing is also complete bunk.
The only "scientific" mask studies that show they work, show only that they work on water droplets FAR larger than the size of the virus. They never measure actual viral transmission (is someone getting sick?) they only measure the effects of the hypothesis you stated. They never test the hypothesis itself.
The water droplets are absorbed or adsorbed by the mask fibers and evaporate. What happens to the million viruses that were in each droplet then?
Many "N95" masks have a one-way valve so you can breathe out unimpeded.
I didn't say there was no such thing as a mask that could block a virus, at least somewhat. A hasmat suit is pretty good at it. If we really wanted to stop viral transmission we would all walk around in gear like that. I am talking about surgical masks, or any of the other masks that are used by most people (and recommended to be used). As for N95, they still aren't perfect barriers, but even in where they do work, they only work in one direction. So unless everyone on the planet is using N95 (a new one every day, since sterility is essential) then they are also useless for population level reduction in viral transmission.
Who said there are millions of viruses in each water droplet? Where is the evidence to support that?
Even if that is true, there is no evidence to support the assertion that THOSE virus particles are the ones that are the primary spreaders of these particular viruses between people. There is literally ZERO evidence to support that assertion. It is a story, without evidence, that everyone believes.
The only scientific endeavor that tests mask effectiveness of reducing actual viral spreading (among people) is the paper I linked above. There is one other paper that tested viral transmission through masks by measuring incident viruses on a measuring device. It found no evidence for any reduction for cloth masks, and a 50% or so reduction for N95 masks. I can't find that paper in my notes at the moment, so take that with a grain of salt.
The point is, all studies that support the theory that are espoused as canon are not measuring the premise (that the virus is transmitted through LARGER droplets), but are taking the premise on faith, and measuring upstream consequences of the premise.
It seems like we're both right. Initial dispersion is with water droplets, but the water can evaporate and leave the virus to disperse through the air on its own.
https://www.tmc.edu/news/2020/07/can-the-coronavirus-spread-through-the-air/#:~:text=Once%20the%20aerosols%20are%20airborne,an%20extended%20period%20of%20time.
So a mask will help protect people if the virus is still airborne via droplets (however there's no way for us to observe this outside of a lab,) which will increase the amount of viral load required to infect a person. I'm curious if a mask with enough condensation from exhalation would be still more effective.