Person moved here in their teens. He is now in his 20s. He really believes Americans are only white people. And he keeps referring to the white people are the ones causing all the problems. I said it's not the Americans it's the government and if the United States government is treating the rest of the world the way they are treating us now then I can see why the rest of the world doesn't like the Americans. Then he changed the subject. Then I came back and asked if we could talk cause I'm highly concerned about this whole white people logic and trying to understand. I'm white just to put that out there. While we were talking the logic never matched up to how white people specifically are the cause of the problems. Then he asked me who lives in America and I kept saying Americans. Then he said but you're white and I pointed out he was brown but he went through the citizenship process. Then he said in his old country it was so dangerous but here the white people are afraid and that's why they pull to the side of the road when an ambulance is passing because they won't get a ticket. I told him that isn't because of fear but out of respect for the ambulance to get to the emergency situation to save a life. I understand the fact he was raised more from a different country but the fact is this country is being influenced to believe what he already believes. When he said I refer to myself as an American he said I lumped myself into the white people. With him being brown I used his same logic and asked him "so if you were a burglarer and robbed a place does that make it a fair judgment to say all brown people steal?" It's sad the critical thinking skills wasn't there. I would stump him and he would just change the subject. It's sad and makes me understand how in critical care the free world needs to be if this is really the last free place on the planet and we are borderline unfree.
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Critical Thinking about issues of life must be nurtured. Continue to mentor him in a non-aggressive manner and that will make a difference. Foreign-born people now living in the USA are culture-shocked even if living here for years.
He seems so set that "the white people" are lazy and so unappreciative that there is 24/7 electricity, constant supply of drinking water and more jobs that people willing to work. He thinks the Americans behave the way they do because they are scared. I explained to him my spectrum of what I understand racism to be and that thinking that's all Americans and pointing out I'm still struggling understanding the white people part of it, that all Americans are that.
I grew up in a very 'ethnic' city. Almost every nationality has a festival culminating into a huge folk festival where all nationalities show off their culture. New and old immigrations get together.
My only issue is this: If you hate this country, why did you come and why wont you leave. After all this is still a free country.
It has a lot to do with your environment. A lot of immigrants legal or not attach themselves to their community groups of the same culture and never break free from a dogma of the cultural group. They sometimes miss out on the greatness of America. Living in freewill outside of a Matriarchal and oppressed system is hard to conceive or scary to some when it is all you know.
Yeah I get irritated working with him. From his cultural women are subhumans. So you got me a white female incharge of him. For the most part he's good but those little side comments that he genuinely doesn't mean to insult happen. He even says no offensive and then explains himself overboard which tells me he's coming from his good place. It's crazy because without that Critical thinking component I can see people getting trapped and not ever being free. He was projecting on me telling me I behave the way I do because I'm fearful. It'll take some time to figure out how to wake him up. The real question is what is the question I'm supposed to ask him that he will have no choice but to answer it for himself to get the critical component started?
No offense, but when somebody says "no offense" they know exactly what they are saying is offensive.
I live in a democratic state but more of a conservative area. Pretty mixed if you ask me based on my observations. I did bring up the demographic statistics of my area which is 97% white. Heck, I'm from long island so when I moved here I had my own culture shot. There is more crime in my area from where I grew up but because the demographic is 97% white those crimes are 97% likely to be commit by that colored skin. Just like the workers are 97% white so workers who don't show up to work in this area are more likely to be white.
Thanks for trying, pede. Hope you have many more conversations with this young man who went through the naturalization process. ??
Oh I plan to. Hopefully in more depth. When he told me where he was from I straight up told him I think of deserts and hot weather and huts.
I think this is an official conversion attempt on my end. It's kinda hard cause he works for me and I look at him an get all angry. But he asked about his break tonight. I asked him what he would do of I said no. He said "I have no choice then" I told him "you always have a choice." Then he said he didn't study he didn't know he was going to have a test today. I told him "you have the choice if you want to take your break now or not". He stood there actually thinking about it. He eventually figured out he was free to take a break. He's smiling but it's hard. I'm very skeptical if I'm making a difference or if he still thinks "lazy american". Also note right before that he made the comment about the food I had, "typical American food." I do not have any belief he is flirting. There is another dude here and he got pissed off about the food comment too.
This then begs the question: why did this person become a citizen if he felt this way about Americans?
The logic I'm grasping is because he's brown, as he identified himself as before I went with it. The gist of what I got is he's here because there's always electric and drinkable water running. This has opened up my eyes to understand the rest of the world is selfish due to no fault of their own because their basic human needs are food/water/habitable shelter is not consistently met. If those leaders were parents and their people were the kids, CPS would have come for their asses long time ago for the abuse. It really is up to the Americans to speak up and ask the abused to correct questions so they end up reflecting in the fact they've been abused and now are safe. We have to help keep the triggers going so they can see they don't have to be neglected anymore and that it doesn't have to be better you than me and that there is plenty to share as long as you treat everyone the way you want to be treated.
The legal immigrants I know clawed and scratched their ways to be here LEGALLY. the adult, 1st generation Americans DESPISE border hoppers...but I'm older and hang out with 30+ somethings
Our Prime Minister Boris Johnson is an immigrant. He was born in NYC. Would you like him back? (Please?)
Ahh I need to follow more in that dude. Lastbi heard he's not exactly good. I would love to hear your oppinion if it doesn't get your introuble for speaking lol.
That’s why all immigration should end for at least a decade. You came here bitch; we don’t have to like nor accept you. Our country has been infiltrated by dual citizens and stupid low iq racists. I’m black and we are sick to their attitude and ungratefulness.
I attempted to explain to him the divide and conquer tactic being used on US right now. He wasn't hearing it. It dawned on me we are going to have to go into overdrive mode on the kindness process and a lot of hope even after we take the country back. There's a lot of healing to do.
I agree but I’m not overdoing any kindness after what has been done to my family by them during the pandemic. I have first hand experience with legal immigration with my ex and honestly, they need to go back home. I’m tired of dealing with foreigners.
I thought most Americans claimed to be from somewhere else? I met a girl in US once who told me she was Polish. I innocently replied something like "oh that's cool, how long ago did you move here?" I meant when did she leave Poland and arrive in America.
She gave me a weird look and said she was born in USA. So were her parents actually but in her mind she was still "Polish" because of her grandparents.
Then again every March 17 everyone suddenly becomes "Irish" !
Exactly. As a black American with 150 yrs of lineage I can track, I’m tired of being told to just deal with all the foreigners they dump in the community. That’s why we moved.
Well I know where my ancestors came from and when and what generation and how they arrived here. Nothing wrong with holding onto the traditions from your roots but its supposed to be a melting pot where everyone accepts each other's difference and may not agree with some traditions but able to respect by either not participating or celebrating. It's wrong though when people sabotage others joys. If you enjoying sabotage and to experience the misery of others to make yourself happier or to wrongfully gain, you most likely will commit a crime at some point.
Thank you for speaking with logic and discernment friend!
It’s harsh but it’s tough love time.
"Let me into America to be oppressed!"
What a low IQ piece of shit.
I don't think it's his fault or the thousands of others like him. I realized something. We might be at that final point to turn things around and we need to start figure out the right questions to ask. And just start asking these truly oppressed people basic IF questions to make them think about what they are saying. Maybe if we all out out heads together we can come up with the most productive IF question ever. simple and basic that anyone from a 2 IQ all the way up to a 400 or whatever the highest IQ is. Basically just have No choice but to think about what they just heard. There will still be sheep but wake up the last of the bunch.
Okay then I guess it wasn't the Nazis fault either.
Wasn't it just the soldiers who were incarcerated at the end? Or was it also the citizens who feel for the trap?
The citizens paid dearly.
People wishing for the end of a Christian moral world will miss it when it's gone. Natural law is that the strong eat the weak not protect them.
Nothing wrong with sorting through the live people and the sheeple with one last round of free speech. Even domestic violence victims once they get out of that situation it takes them years to recover and it turns out they were very strong all along.
So much of all this is because civics understanding and national pride is gone, destroyed by cultural Marxism in the education and media. Your friend is probably like so many other Americans who don't have a positive grasp of what being American means, they only know memes and negative historical guilt and racial tension indoctrinated into them. Yes it is dismal and sad but we don't have time to convince them all before soon they'll have brainwashed everyone into destroying the world. I wouldn't worry about changing minds until we strategically fix the sources that are keeping them brainwashed. Just like in your example the victim of the abuse can't recover while remaining in the abusive relationship but unlike this example people can't choose or get assistance to walk away from their education and media environment. Those institutions have to be fixed or they will produce perpetually broken minds.
What a very good point.
Tribalism takes precedence over logical thinking when your IQ is low. You should look up the average IQ of the country this man came from. We used to be picky about what nationalities we let into this country for this very reason.
https://www.worlddata.info/iq-by-country.php
Interesting. That would make sense. Only allow higher IQ to breed with the Americans to make a stronger american lol.
Where I used to live pregnant women would avoid drinking Coke so as to avoid having a dark skinned baby.
Maybe the be less white campagin was not meant to offend with racism but to inside joke on whatever tradition your community did. Although I cant fully finish my own thought to conclude the possiblity that skin color seemed to matter. But coke is also good for cleaning blood stains of the concrete when severe accidents happen.