Catholics shouldn’t judge the church by its human infiltrators, the fact is the church has not altered it’s teachings on anything and there are still many great priests out there faithfully administering the sacraments for those who care to find them. I personally go to a traditionally minded church where none of this modernist nonsense would be tolerated.
what about Vatican 2 - that was a pretty radical departure (some woukd describe it as an infiltration/coup) from everything that came before it in the prior 1000 years. the Novus Ordo (translated New Order) sect took over and its all been downhill since 1963.
Vatican 2, as I understand it, added nothing new that is an obligatory article of faith. I agree it was a subversive and confusing document, but it actually changed nothing. Likewise “Pope Francis” with all his nonsense and heresy has changed nothing, nor can he. If one believes Christ established an apostolic Church, with sacraments and the ability to bind and loose, then one needs to stick with the Church and drive the demons out. I am just a layman, a nobody, but I would never leave the Church, Christ, or the Blessed Virgin Mary and all the saints and martyrs of the last 2000 years; and I believe Christ will set things right after this time of trial. God Bless
Perfectly fits within clown world. Catholics have chosen a faith that has always relied on topdown control. If you don't like that type of organization you might want to look elsewhere. If you wish to remain within the Christian Faith do a search on the Reformation and Protestantism.
So you disagree with the Bible and it's teachings?
People change, the word of God is eternal.
1 Timothy 2:12 - But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1 Corinthians 14:34 - Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1 Corinthians 14:35 - And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
You’re ego has blinded you. How do I know that? Because I was once in the same place as you. “Women can be spiritual leaders too.” No. They cannot. It goes against the natural order. The “hierarchy” (if you want to call it that) is simple; God, Man, Woman. When this order is supplanted, suffering follows. Every time.
God's word only pertained to the first five books of Moses.
Have you read those? Man was made first. Woman came from man. Man is to have dominion over woman. See Genesis 3:16. There are also laws in Leviticus and Deuteronomy that show man is to have dominion over woman.
Yes, and the Abrahamic religions are the only religions in the world that do not mention goddess in their texts. Makes you wonder, or at lest it should, why that is. How many fallen angels were women? What sin did the the fallen angels commit? Are you sure you have a correct account of God?
Yes, Im a Sadducee. Im against the Catholic Church's version of Jesus Christ.
Are you anti-semitic?
You may want to rethink why those Jews turned against the C.C version of Christ. John 6:52-66
I'm against the Catholic church too but for many other reasons. For one thing, they're doctrine is built on paganism and other blasphemy.
I am also antisemitic. I've seen too many instances of jews working to subvert European and American culture to not be.
As for no goddesses in the Bible, the reason is right there in Genesis and in the 10 Commandments. God is the Father. He is the creator. He is the one God. Christ is His begotten Son, the Lamb given as the only perfect sacrifice in remittance of sin. Christ does the work of the Father and the Father is greater than the Son. There are no goddesses in the Bible because there are no goddesses.
As for fallen angels, who cares how many were women. Their sin was rebellion against God just as Satan's was.
John 6:52-66, Christ uses metaphor to emphasize the importance of believing in Him and accepting His gift to us.
If you follow the Pentatauch, do yoi still sacrifice lambs and goats when you break one of the laws?
It good to hear you are totally against the C.C. It doesn't get more pagan than the Eucharist/Communion.
Im not anti-semitic. You ask if I was a Sadducee and I said yes, in the fact that I question the NT Jesus. You could consider me Anti-Abrahamic Religion as it is documented in the OT, NT and the Koran though. They are all anti-feminine as is their religions.
This was the point in my last post. The fallen angels were all male and saw themselves superior to their wives, the daughter of men. This is how Satan also viewed humans. If God created us in his own image, it is my opinion that he would see us as equals or at least the potential to be equals and not superior to us.
Satan saw himself as superior to humans, this is why you think God is superior to you. Satan has played a trick on you and made you believe he is superior to you, he is the God in the OT that demands you fear him and worship him. Satan has gotten what he was after, man bowing down to him. Satan was cast out of heaven for not bowing down to man, he blames us for his fall and is making us pay by tricking us into bowing down/worshiping him. The true Gods demand no worship. They only ask for gratitude.
There are goddess and the Abrahamic religions removed them from their doctrine for nefarious intent. The Abrahamic religions are a devise of the fallen angels and John 6:52-66 is a testament to Enoch chapter 7.
John 6:55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. This is not metaphor. This is Satan getting you to agree that the eating of human flesh and drinking of human blood is acceptable to you, its a contract. Truth in plain sight.
I don't follow the Pentateuch, but if you believe Jesus is the father and the God of the OT, why do you not sacrifice lambs and goats when you break one of the laws?
The Son is begotten of the Father. The Father is greater than the Son as the mountain from which the stone is cut is greater than the stone (Daniel 2:45).
The Father is the Creator. Christ came to do the will of the Father and died as the last sacrifice, the only perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world.
I'm what is referred to as a "Christian".
A person who believes God sent his only son to Earth to die for our salvation.
It's easy to tell what type you are though by your instant attacks when someone has a different view than you.
Feel free to share your old testament examples of women who led the churchs.
Until then.................................
You can sort it out with God on your day of judgement.
Really, what type of Christian, there are 30,000+ sects of Christianity all derived from Catholicism at least anyone that uses the New Testement. Is yours derived from Catholicism? If God only had one son, who are the "Sons of God" then? Didn't they come to Earth also? You need to question that rhetoric, its contradictory. Seems like your God likes to throw his sons into the "viper pit" to suffer and possibly be eaten. Kinda like Saturn/Cronus.
Please point out where I attacked someone for their views in this post. Its funny that you see the questioning of your religion as an attack. You maybe in a cult. What are you doing on a Q board if you're terrified of questioning? Question Everything - Q
There aren't any examples in the OT of women who lead churches. There weren't any churches in the OT there were Synagogues or Temples, churches didn't come about until Christ. As far as Christianity goes, I prefer the Cathar view of Jesus. The Cathars don't have churches so for me its a mute point, I don't have a dog in the race. They do however believe men and women are completely equal.
I read and study the OT and NT, I just don't see it as truth, or at least the complete truth. The God of the OT seems to rule with fear, something I seriously question. I prefer a God who doesn't use fear to control. I prefer one who is all loving and welcomes questioning.
You're terrified of your God's judgment aren't you? You may have Stockholm Syndrome.
"All derived from Catholicism"???????
Catholicism was founded in the third century, and has so many anti-Christian doctrines only a fool or a Satanist would claim they are of Jesus' teachings.
Your inner hate is palpable and you should really pray for God to open your eyes.
I showed you what you need to understand the evil that parades around as a "Church".
If you are too afraid of having the veil lifted from your eyes, that is your own problem.
By the way, answer me this.
If Jesus told us the only way to salvation is through him, and praying for God's forgiveness in Jesus' name, then why do Catholics tell their followers to go crawl in a box, tell some guy behind a privacy screen what they did wrong, and ask that person to pray for their forgiveness?
The sooner you learn it is God's preferences, and not your own, that matter, the sooner you will be on your way to salvation and forgiveness.
I suggest you watch a documentary entitled From "Babylon to America".
Once you do, you should be able to see how the deception of the Catholic Church has enslaved and doomed so many souls over the years.
If you refuse to watch, you are only allowing your own demise through ignorance, or you are truly doing Satan's work.
Your decision, good luck, I'll pray for you!
Im adamantly against the Catholic Church and well aware of their deception, like the Eucharist and Communion. That was my whole point they defiled Christ with the New Testament. Me and my God are fine, no need to pray for me.
Me either, valid point but the C.C has been corrupt since inception and this is cringe on another level. It reminds me of the way I felt when I saw the Finish governments action on rising sex crime by migrants was to create a song that women should use to defend themselves with. If you haven't seen it, I give you 'My no no square'.
https://youtu.be/s2Uru_vZZ8U
I've been saying that for ever but there is a certain portion of people that will never see it for what it is and will die on that hill. The institution is beyond corrupt.
This video confirmed so much for me about the Catholic Church.
It might be hard for many to accept, but once you watch it, it will be virtually impossible for anyone to dispute.
We are in the end times, and the Antichrist is not a single person, but the Catholic Church, and has been in our faces for a long time.
Apologies for the YT link.
Amen to that. We don't need fancy buildings, or even plain ones. Two or more is all you need. Prayer is between us and God. BTW, I grew up Catholic. Left the church practically the minute I turned eighteen.
Catholics shouldn’t judge the church by its human infiltrators, the fact is the church has not altered it’s teachings on anything and there are still many great priests out there faithfully administering the sacraments for those who care to find them. I personally go to a traditionally minded church where none of this modernist nonsense would be tolerated.
what about Vatican 2 - that was a pretty radical departure (some woukd describe it as an infiltration/coup) from everything that came before it in the prior 1000 years. the Novus Ordo (translated New Order) sect took over and its all been downhill since 1963.
Vatican 2, as I understand it, added nothing new that is an obligatory article of faith. I agree it was a subversive and confusing document, but it actually changed nothing. Likewise “Pope Francis” with all his nonsense and heresy has changed nothing, nor can he. If one believes Christ established an apostolic Church, with sacraments and the ability to bind and loose, then one needs to stick with the Church and drive the demons out. I am just a layman, a nobody, but I would never leave the Church, Christ, or the Blessed Virgin Mary and all the saints and martyrs of the last 2000 years; and I believe Christ will set things right after this time of trial. God Bless
Not even the Vatican is ok with this BS, which says a lot.
School girls in the back ground to add a couple of levels of weird to it!
This doesn't seem to be produced or endorsed by the Catholic church but rather an appeal to the church to allow female priest.
That's how you know they're definetly not catholic at all. Everyone knows they prefer boys
God please help us ??
If someone is not happy with catholic church rules, you are free to find a church more suitable for your needs.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pQvM9ZY41k
Perfectly fits within clown world. Catholics have chosen a faith that has always relied on topdown control. If you don't like that type of organization you might want to look elsewhere. If you wish to remain within the Christian Faith do a search on the Reformation and Protestantism.
Im against the C.C. for sure and bad song parities, but Im not against women as religious leaders at least no more so than men as religious leaders.
So you disagree with the Bible and it's teachings? People change, the word of God is eternal.
1 Timothy 2:12 - But I suffer not a woman to teach, nor to usurp authority over the man, but to be in silence.
1 Corinthians 14:34 - Let your women keep silence in the churches: for it is not permitted unto them to speak; but they are commanded to be under obedience, as also saith the law.
1 Corinthians 14:35 - And if they will learn any thing, let them ask their husbands at home: for it is a shame for women to speak in the church.
Yes I do disagree with the Biblical translations and canon.
God's word only pertained to the first five books of Moses.
Way too many contradictions to be God's word.
You're one of those MGTOW aren't you.
You've lost, You're lost
Do you often make claims without proof?
Where am I wrong?
You’re ego has blinded you. How do I know that? Because I was once in the same place as you. “Women can be spiritual leaders too.” No. They cannot. It goes against the natural order. The “hierarchy” (if you want to call it that) is simple; God, Man, Woman. When this order is supplanted, suffering follows. Every time.
Mary Magdalene was an apostle.
Damn, what woman hurt you?
Have you read those? Man was made first. Woman came from man. Man is to have dominion over woman. See Genesis 3:16. There are also laws in Leviticus and Deuteronomy that show man is to have dominion over woman.
Are you a Sadducee?
Yes, and the Abrahamic religions are the only religions in the world that do not mention goddess in their texts. Makes you wonder, or at lest it should, why that is. How many fallen angels were women? What sin did the the fallen angels commit? Are you sure you have a correct account of God?
Yes, Im a Sadducee. Im against the Catholic Church's version of Jesus Christ.
Are you anti-semitic?
You may want to rethink why those Jews turned against the C.C version of Christ. John 6:52-66
I'm against the Catholic church too but for many other reasons. For one thing, they're doctrine is built on paganism and other blasphemy.
I am also antisemitic. I've seen too many instances of jews working to subvert European and American culture to not be.
As for no goddesses in the Bible, the reason is right there in Genesis and in the 10 Commandments. God is the Father. He is the creator. He is the one God. Christ is His begotten Son, the Lamb given as the only perfect sacrifice in remittance of sin. Christ does the work of the Father and the Father is greater than the Son. There are no goddesses in the Bible because there are no goddesses.
As for fallen angels, who cares how many were women. Their sin was rebellion against God just as Satan's was.
John 6:52-66, Christ uses metaphor to emphasize the importance of believing in Him and accepting His gift to us.
If you follow the Pentatauch, do yoi still sacrifice lambs and goats when you break one of the laws?
It good to hear you are totally against the C.C. It doesn't get more pagan than the Eucharist/Communion.
Im not anti-semitic. You ask if I was a Sadducee and I said yes, in the fact that I question the NT Jesus. You could consider me Anti-Abrahamic Religion as it is documented in the OT, NT and the Koran though. They are all anti-feminine as is their religions.
This was the point in my last post. The fallen angels were all male and saw themselves superior to their wives, the daughter of men. This is how Satan also viewed humans. If God created us in his own image, it is my opinion that he would see us as equals or at least the potential to be equals and not superior to us.
Satan saw himself as superior to humans, this is why you think God is superior to you. Satan has played a trick on you and made you believe he is superior to you, he is the God in the OT that demands you fear him and worship him. Satan has gotten what he was after, man bowing down to him. Satan was cast out of heaven for not bowing down to man, he blames us for his fall and is making us pay by tricking us into bowing down/worshiping him. The true Gods demand no worship. They only ask for gratitude.
There are goddess and the Abrahamic religions removed them from their doctrine for nefarious intent. The Abrahamic religions are a devise of the fallen angels and John 6:52-66 is a testament to Enoch chapter 7.
John 6:55 For my flesh is real food and my blood is real drink. This is not metaphor. This is Satan getting you to agree that the eating of human flesh and drinking of human blood is acceptable to you, its a contract. Truth in plain sight.
I don't follow the Pentateuch, but if you believe Jesus is the father and the God of the OT, why do you not sacrifice lambs and goats when you break one of the laws?
Jesus is the Son. The Father is God the Creator.
The Son is begotten of the Father. The Father is greater than the Son as the mountain from which the stone is cut is greater than the stone (Daniel 2:45).
The Father is the Creator. Christ came to do the will of the Father and died as the last sacrifice, the only perfect sacrifice for the sins of the world.
I'm what is referred to as a "Christian". A person who believes God sent his only son to Earth to die for our salvation. It's easy to tell what type you are though by your instant attacks when someone has a different view than you. Feel free to share your old testament examples of women who led the churchs. Until then................................. You can sort it out with God on your day of judgement.
Really, what type of Christian, there are 30,000+ sects of Christianity all derived from Catholicism at least anyone that uses the New Testement. Is yours derived from Catholicism? If God only had one son, who are the "Sons of God" then? Didn't they come to Earth also? You need to question that rhetoric, its contradictory. Seems like your God likes to throw his sons into the "viper pit" to suffer and possibly be eaten. Kinda like Saturn/Cronus.
Please point out where I attacked someone for their views in this post. Its funny that you see the questioning of your religion as an attack. You maybe in a cult. What are you doing on a Q board if you're terrified of questioning? Question Everything - Q
There aren't any examples in the OT of women who lead churches. There weren't any churches in the OT there were Synagogues or Temples, churches didn't come about until Christ. As far as Christianity goes, I prefer the Cathar view of Jesus. The Cathars don't have churches so for me its a mute point, I don't have a dog in the race. They do however believe men and women are completely equal.
I read and study the OT and NT, I just don't see it as truth, or at least the complete truth. The God of the OT seems to rule with fear, something I seriously question. I prefer a God who doesn't use fear to control. I prefer one who is all loving and welcomes questioning.
You're terrified of your God's judgment aren't you? You may have Stockholm Syndrome.
"All derived from Catholicism"??????? Catholicism was founded in the third century, and has so many anti-Christian doctrines only a fool or a Satanist would claim they are of Jesus' teachings. Your inner hate is palpable and you should really pray for God to open your eyes. I showed you what you need to understand the evil that parades around as a "Church". If you are too afraid of having the veil lifted from your eyes, that is your own problem.
By the way, answer me this. If Jesus told us the only way to salvation is through him, and praying for God's forgiveness in Jesus' name, then why do Catholics tell their followers to go crawl in a box, tell some guy behind a privacy screen what they did wrong, and ask that person to pray for their forgiveness?
The sooner you learn it is God's preferences, and not your own, that matter, the sooner you will be on your way to salvation and forgiveness.
I suggest you watch a documentary entitled From "Babylon to America". Once you do, you should be able to see how the deception of the Catholic Church has enslaved and doomed so many souls over the years. If you refuse to watch, you are only allowing your own demise through ignorance, or you are truly doing Satan's work. Your decision, good luck, I'll pray for you!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pQvM9ZY41k
You need to go reread my post.
Im adamantly against the Catholic Church and well aware of their deception, like the Eucharist and Communion. That was my whole point they defiled Christ with the New Testament. Me and my God are fine, no need to pray for me.
Me either, valid point but the C.C has been corrupt since inception and this is cringe on another level. It reminds me of the way I felt when I saw the Finish governments action on rising sex crime by migrants was to create a song that women should use to defend themselves with. If you haven't seen it, I give you 'My no no square'. https://youtu.be/s2Uru_vZZ8U
Same band as the no no square master piece?
All religions have been infiltrated by the synagogue of Satan
I've been saying that for ever but there is a certain portion of people that will never see it for what it is and will die on that hill. The institution is beyond corrupt.
This video confirmed so much for me about the Catholic Church. It might be hard for many to accept, but once you watch it, it will be virtually impossible for anyone to dispute. We are in the end times, and the Antichrist is not a single person, but the Catholic Church, and has been in our faces for a long time. Apologies for the YT link.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5pQvM9ZY41k
Amen to that. We don't need fancy buildings, or even plain ones. Two or more is all you need. Prayer is between us and God. BTW, I grew up Catholic. Left the church practically the minute I turned eighteen.
The book of Galatians also teaches about following rituals as a means of salvation.