I don't even like the plan if Q wins. How is forgiving all debt a good, just thing for society? Why should my choice to live responsibly in a modest home within my means fund anyone one else's frivolity? According to what you have said here, our choices are communism or communism, regardless of who wins.
Ok so you're saying that because the system has always been crooked I should have (perhaps like you?) taken on more risk and debt than I could ever hope to repay with my own labor trusting that a future bailout from Trump or some other superhero would eventually come to save the day? This is wrong thinking. I don't like the idea of having outside forces "leveling the playing field" by essentially watering down whatever wealth or savings I have acquired through personal sacrifice and hard work whether it is done by actions from the Fed Reserve or whether it is done in the name of some other grand reset plan. If they want to seize assets, for example, from people who are lawfully tried and found to be traitors of the country and redistribute that wealth to every American citizen that is one thing. People with debt could pay their debts. People who have already paid their debts could enjoy having extra $$$ for other enjoyable things they opted to forego until now.
Eliminating the debts of some while others sacrificed to pay their own way is un-American and wrong.
I don't support any plan, candidate or "purported patriot" that endorses this idea. Forgiveness of debt that only benefits some members of the population is nothing more than another form of wealth redistribution and social injustice.
"Yeah, it sucks but...." Wrong. Sound money is sound money and the rules of sound money will persist regardless of any reset. It is disordered thinking (and pathetic and frankly unattractive) to see people who have not managed their finances embrace ideas like this with the mindset that it's all good for you because you have personal debt you don't want to repay and because you feel entitled to own things you didn't work for. This thinking is disordered. It's demoralizing when even people who claim they are on the right and who should celebrate principles of sound money are instead embracing communism because of a perceived personal benefit. I have a feeling that just like all the other benchmarks haven't quite gone as expected, this one will let you down too. "You will own nothing and you will be happy." Never forget that that's the plan. They've told you. Don't be so sure that this Nesara/Gesara agenda isn't part of that.
IF there was a just way to reset (IMO) & migrate to some crypto.
All secured debt is forgiven. The largest secured debt would be the basis for the new savings amount for those who were debt free from their own frugal lifestyle & those who have nothing saved up, at least they have physical possessions they can sell to get their lives up and running again without any debt to repay.
Any saving would convert to the new system (would need to look at the math & data to even begin an educated guess).
All unsecured debt being forgiven would also be added into the initial accounts of those more frugal.
This basic premise allows for those who were frugal, meek & humble to become the most wealthy. Those who lived lavishly do not need to be worried about monthly payments, but they will need to sell lots of "stuff" or find other ways of providing value to take care of themselves.
No. We’re saying take it all on right now! Anyone that will lend you anything right now.....? Party like it’s 1999! Go get a new car/truck with 0 down, if you can find a new vehicle. Love that new 2021
Suburban leather smell just grabbed me one.
Next, cash out refi your house at 2.6 and then dump 401k’s and IRA’s but don’t volunteer to withhold the penalties upfront. Empty bank accounts 9k/day and then buy gold/silver with most of it - save some to make your mortgage payments with useless fiat so they don’t take your house.
Lastly, even if your friends think you are nuts at this point, get some long term food/water preps, guns/ammo, gardening/seeds supplies and a Bible if you don’t already have one. Best of luck to you friend!
Some of what you suggest is sensible and the rest is downright dishonest. I'm good on the "free car" in anticipation of not having to pay for it. I have the exact cars I want and I already paid for them. People who couldn't manage money or their lives before a reset are not suddenly going to gain competence or self control or a mindset of frugality just because a reset happens. Not sure where this disordered thinking and celebration of dishonesty and thievery is coming from but people who are planning on this outcome and taking your advice of running up a bunch of debt without the means to pay it and with the belief it will be forgiven are not likely to enjoy a happy ending. The best way for them to own everything and make you a more dependent slave is to entice you into debts that you can never repay.
tidbits here and there say that all INTEREST paid by you for many decades will be refunded to you.....credit cards, mortgage, etc....supposedly they have found tons of gold and other cabal assets to make this happen..
I hope my lifetime of living responsible doesn't come back to haunt me.....I could have had huge boats instead of a tiny fishing boat, a mercedes rather than a camry....etc etc....
I don't even like the plan if Q wins. How is forgiving all debt a good, just thing for society? Why should my choice to live responsibly in a modest home within my means fund anyone one else's frivolity? According to what you have said here, our choices are communism or communism, regardless of who wins.
Cause the entire system in the first place was based on debt usury slavery.
Ok so you're saying that because the system has always been crooked I should have (perhaps like you?) taken on more risk and debt than I could ever hope to repay with my own labor trusting that a future bailout from Trump or some other superhero would eventually come to save the day? This is wrong thinking. I don't like the idea of having outside forces "leveling the playing field" by essentially watering down whatever wealth or savings I have acquired through personal sacrifice and hard work whether it is done by actions from the Fed Reserve or whether it is done in the name of some other grand reset plan. If they want to seize assets, for example, from people who are lawfully tried and found to be traitors of the country and redistribute that wealth to every American citizen that is one thing. People with debt could pay their debts. People who have already paid their debts could enjoy having extra $$$ for other enjoyable things they opted to forego until now.
Eliminating the debts of some while others sacrificed to pay their own way is un-American and wrong. I don't support any plan, candidate or "purported patriot" that endorses this idea. Forgiveness of debt that only benefits some members of the population is nothing more than another form of wealth redistribution and social injustice.
Yeah, it’s sucks but you played under a different set of rules. No one told you to pay off your debts.
I want to watch it burn and the $29tril debt I DIDNT ASK for to go away.
"Yeah, it sucks but...." Wrong. Sound money is sound money and the rules of sound money will persist regardless of any reset. It is disordered thinking (and pathetic and frankly unattractive) to see people who have not managed their finances embrace ideas like this with the mindset that it's all good for you because you have personal debt you don't want to repay and because you feel entitled to own things you didn't work for. This thinking is disordered. It's demoralizing when even people who claim they are on the right and who should celebrate principles of sound money are instead embracing communism because of a perceived personal benefit. I have a feeling that just like all the other benchmarks haven't quite gone as expected, this one will let you down too. "You will own nothing and you will be happy." Never forget that that's the plan. They've told you. Don't be so sure that this Nesara/Gesara agenda isn't part of that.
IF there was a just way to reset (IMO) & migrate to some crypto.
All secured debt is forgiven. The largest secured debt would be the basis for the new savings amount for those who were debt free from their own frugal lifestyle & those who have nothing saved up, at least they have physical possessions they can sell to get their lives up and running again without any debt to repay.
Any saving would convert to the new system (would need to look at the math & data to even begin an educated guess).
All unsecured debt being forgiven would also be added into the initial accounts of those more frugal.
This basic premise allows for those who were frugal, meek & humble to become the most wealthy. Those who lived lavishly do not need to be worried about monthly payments, but they will need to sell lots of "stuff" or find other ways of providing value to take care of themselves.
No. We’re saying take it all on right now! Anyone that will lend you anything right now.....? Party like it’s 1999! Go get a new car/truck with 0 down, if you can find a new vehicle. Love that new 2021 Suburban leather smell just grabbed me one.
Next, cash out refi your house at 2.6 and then dump 401k’s and IRA’s but don’t volunteer to withhold the penalties upfront. Empty bank accounts 9k/day and then buy gold/silver with most of it - save some to make your mortgage payments with useless fiat so they don’t take your house.
Lastly, even if your friends think you are nuts at this point, get some long term food/water preps, guns/ammo, gardening/seeds supplies and a Bible if you don’t already have one. Best of luck to you friend!
Some of what you suggest is sensible and the rest is downright dishonest. I'm good on the "free car" in anticipation of not having to pay for it. I have the exact cars I want and I already paid for them. People who couldn't manage money or their lives before a reset are not suddenly going to gain competence or self control or a mindset of frugality just because a reset happens. Not sure where this disordered thinking and celebration of dishonesty and thievery is coming from but people who are planning on this outcome and taking your advice of running up a bunch of debt without the means to pay it and with the belief it will be forgiven are not likely to enjoy a happy ending. The best way for them to own everything and make you a more dependent slave is to entice you into debts that you can never repay.
tidbits here and there say that all INTEREST paid by you for many decades will be refunded to you.....credit cards, mortgage, etc....supposedly they have found tons of gold and other cabal assets to make this happen..
I hope my lifetime of living responsible doesn't come back to haunt me.....I could have had huge boats instead of a tiny fishing boat, a mercedes rather than a camry....etc etc....