I have, and I always get attacked. I will again, sure.
VAERS and every other statistic that shows tens of thousands of vaccine deaths aren't very reliable if you're looking for a realistic amount of people the vaccine killed. They are incredibly noisy, can be reported to by anyone, and healthcare professionals are encouraged to report any reactions regardless if they believe they were from the vaccine or not. If you look further into the data you see that the vast majority of these 'vaccine deaths' are, much like covid, very old people with multiple preexisting conditions. If you set up a system like VAERS to track a placebo, it will still record deaths.
None of the above is me supporting the vaccine. The vaccines do appear to be more dangerous than advertised, and I'm sure they've killed some people and given many other people heart issues and blood clots. But these issues are very rare, and the amount of deaths that you can realistically attribute to the vaccine alone is much much lower than is generally presented on this site.
Healthcare providers are required to report to VAERS the following adverse events after receiving these EUA vaccines:
Death
A life threatening adverse event
A significant or persistent disability or incapacity
Hospitalization or prolonging of hospitalization
“CDC or FDA scientists follow up on reports identified as serious adverse events immediately by obtaining medical records to better understand the event.”
Source: CDC.GOV
So while it is true that anyone can report an event on these covid vaccines, because of the emergency use authorization hospitals and doctors are required to report. AND the FDA/CDC is required to immediately follow up on these specific reports.
What % of healthcare providers are administering the vaccine? I know someone who works vaccine clinics at company facilities. The employees walk in, get vaccinated, and walk right back out. Not even a 15 minute sitdown.
Who reports the reactions from vaccination at events like this?
We've seen other evidence here that doctors are pointing their patients to the clinics because they don't want to be associated with the outcomes.
I’m interested. I pulled data from VAERS the other day and it was still in the 5000s - obviously we’re pulling data differently. I could use some guidance
Always pay attention to the date at the top. They are loading data at random times now. So it's possible it was updated since you tried it. Also I heard they are about 3 months behind in loading reports.
Ok, checked. This report is pulling reports entered up to 6/25 with vaccinations and onsets being random as would be expected. What it doesn't show is when the reports were submitted, that field is zeroed out. 699 pages of reports.
Daily reminder y'all don't understand VAERS.
Then explain. This is a place to teach and learn, not a place to make snarky insults.
I have, and I always get attacked. I will again, sure.
VAERS and every other statistic that shows tens of thousands of vaccine deaths aren't very reliable if you're looking for a realistic amount of people the vaccine killed. They are incredibly noisy, can be reported to by anyone, and healthcare professionals are encouraged to report any reactions regardless if they believe they were from the vaccine or not. If you look further into the data you see that the vast majority of these 'vaccine deaths' are, much like covid, very old people with multiple preexisting conditions. If you set up a system like VAERS to track a placebo, it will still record deaths.
None of the above is me supporting the vaccine. The vaccines do appear to be more dangerous than advertised, and I'm sure they've killed some people and given many other people heart issues and blood clots. But these issues are very rare, and the amount of deaths that you can realistically attribute to the vaccine alone is much much lower than is generally presented on this site.
What are the odds of false reports outweighing unreported incidents?
This is the question.
Healthcare providers are required to report to VAERS the following adverse events after receiving these EUA vaccines:
“CDC or FDA scientists follow up on reports identified as serious adverse events immediately by obtaining medical records to better understand the event.”
Source: CDC.GOV
So while it is true that anyone can report an event on these covid vaccines, because of the emergency use authorization hospitals and doctors are required to report. AND the FDA/CDC is required to immediately follow up on these specific reports.
What % of healthcare providers are administering the vaccine? I know someone who works vaccine clinics at company facilities. The employees walk in, get vaccinated, and walk right back out. Not even a 15 minute sitdown.
Who reports the reactions from vaccination at events like this?
We've seen other evidence here that doctors are pointing their patients to the clinics because they don't want to be associated with the outcomes.
From your answer below, it doesn't seem like we fail to understand VAERS, or even understand it differently.
We've simply come to a massively different conclusion than you have about the meaning of the #'s on it.
I’m interested. I pulled data from VAERS the other day and it was still in the 5000s - obviously we’re pulling data differently. I could use some guidance
Always pay attention to the date at the top. They are loading data at random times now. So it's possible it was updated since you tried it. Also I heard they are about 3 months behind in loading reports.
Excellent point. When I downloaded again on 7/1, the date was 6/18 - so that might be the delta here.... thank you for that reminder.
Or is it six months behind, the first reports pulled are from Dec. I'll have to do more checking.
Ok, checked. This report is pulling reports entered up to 6/25 with vaccinations and onsets being random as would be expected. What it doesn't show is when the reports were submitted, that field is zeroed out. 699 pages of reports.