Agree. Usually the “vaccine” has been rolled out to the risk groups first, heightening the odds that the people dying while being vaxed, aren’t the healthiest among us.
Yeah I was just coming to say something along those lines - it's difficult to determine the true effect of the vax because we don't have proper control groups to look at - those who are healthier and have lower risk will be more inclined to self-select out of the trials, those with greater risk factors generally more likely to self-select in.
Does anyone know where there is any good quality data on the actual effects of the Vax? I think one of the red flags for me around the whole situation is that those who want to take a dispassionate look at the data seem unable to do so because they just haven't been gathered, or if they have, they haven't been made clearly visible to general public.... There's no way I would change from my current "no thanks" to a "maybe" until I get eyes on proper data that i can see have been rigourously collected and analysed...
That may have been true in January and February but it is no longer. The death serum is everywhere and anyone who wants it can get it easily. The demographics that have had death injected into them is a cross section of humanity.
Yeah, it might be, but at least here in Sweden around 60% of the population is vaccinated, 90something% above 60: 3% under 30.
We need the full demographic data to know if these numbers are following the “normal distribution “ for C19 deaths. My guess is that it does, but we need to keep a keen eye, the “control group” of pure bloods are getting smaller by the minute.
We've gotta look at age and medical status too, if they're all old and sick then nothing has changed
Agree. Usually the “vaccine” has been rolled out to the risk groups first, heightening the odds that the people dying while being vaxed, aren’t the healthiest among us.
Yeah I was just coming to say something along those lines - it's difficult to determine the true effect of the vax because we don't have proper control groups to look at - those who are healthier and have lower risk will be more inclined to self-select out of the trials, those with greater risk factors generally more likely to self-select in.
Does anyone know where there is any good quality data on the actual effects of the Vax? I think one of the red flags for me around the whole situation is that those who want to take a dispassionate look at the data seem unable to do so because they just haven't been gathered, or if they have, they haven't been made clearly visible to general public.... There's no way I would change from my current "no thanks" to a "maybe" until I get eyes on proper data that i can see have been rigourously collected and analysed...
That may have been true in January and February but it is no longer. The death serum is everywhere and anyone who wants it can get it easily. The demographics that have had death injected into them is a cross section of humanity.
Yeah, it might be, but at least here in Sweden around 60% of the population is vaccinated, 90something% above 60: 3% under 30.
We need the full demographic data to know if these numbers are following the “normal distribution “ for C19 deaths. My guess is that it does, but we need to keep a keen eye, the “control group” of pure bloods are getting smaller by the minute.