About a year ago, in March of 2020 I believe, Trump mentioned he wanted prayers because he was about to make the most difficult decision of his life.
Any spectulation of what that was?
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I very much appreciate your response. It's great to have a dialogue.
I know he has said "enjoy the show" and I do like that idea. There's no question that having the shots actually be saline (or even being actually safe and effective) would be vastly preferable to being harmful.
I also know the drops about multiple movies playing at once. In this case we have one movie claiming the shots are effective and work (pushed at face value by every layer of the establishment, and also by trump himself if you take his statement at face value) and another claiming that they are harmful (various social media sources, various heavily censored people on the internet, people on this forum and myself, being fairly well convinced.)
If I understand your position, it is that the vax/novax controversy is manufactured by creating false narratives of unsafety to further divide us, and to drum up more active conflict and provide new excuses for yet more authoritarian bullshit.
This theory implies: entering a lot of false data into VAERS, crisis actors to appear to keel over after the shots, social media / internet manipulation and corresponding fake censorship, and making sure real doctors and establishment people don't accidentally believe VAERS and other false sources of problems.
My dilemma is that taking the jab would make my life a whole lot easier - I'm under a lot of pressure to do so - and my children also are under pressure, and it could even be mandated for school next year. With my current mindset this is very distressing because I want to avoid it at all costs. Trusting the plan would suggest I should just get it and give it to the children. I understand trust the plan but I guess I'm not trusting enough to do this yet.
I have several other questions:
Do you think it's actually a vaccine that works, or just some harmless material?
Or is it an important vaccination against something else other than COVID?
Does COVID even exist at all?
Interesting data point: over at Quodverum they are strongly of the opinion that COVID exists and the vaccine is safe and effective and everyone should get it if possible, and its safety was not compromised by the speed of development and testing, which they attribute to removal of unnecessary red tape. Personally I don't think something like this can be developed safely in a year because by definition the long term effects cannot be known. Unless either: COVID does not exist and the shots are just saline; or COVID itself was under development for a long time before release and the vaccine was as well. Of course neither of those viewpoints are held by Quodverum folks.
I'm willing to go down these rabbitholes in good faith, but I'm still not ready to stake my life or the lives of loved ones on it. I would much rather take ivermectin prophylactically, which I believe to be known safe... but this doesn't help my pressure dilemmas. Because "CDC says ivermectin doesn't work".
Sitting in my bookcase is the 1989 edition of the American Medical Association Medical Encyclopedia. In it, it says: Rhino viruses and corona viruses are what we know as the common cold.
So,Covid-19 is the common cold, just developed to be a severe variety. The deaths have been inflate by a few methods we all know of by now: 1. Governors housing the sick with the elderly. 2. Government paying hospital corporations a premium for every covid patient, thus incentivizing them to inflate case numbers - i.e. a flu is now Covid, etc. 3. Altering the PCR tests to 30 cycle or more, so that basically anything will test positive for Covid, instead of the 15 cycles, where only sick people would test positive. 4. People who died of any cause - Car accidents, cancer, etc. listed as Covid deaths, if they simply ever had tested positive. and so on.
The vaccine works. It is what Trump says it is. It is essentially this years flu shot. (I am not getting one, but I normally don't get the flu shot either.)
The CDC is politically corrupted. We know this. Scroll through this:
https://qposts.online/?q=CDC&s=keyword
Q has spoken at great length on these subjects. Using qposts.online and then clicking the little magnifying glass at the bottom, then entering the word you are looking for, like COVID, C-19, Corona, CDC will bring many answers for you. Many people here migrated here from other .win communities, and simply have not done the reading and the research. All the hard work has been done for us, we simply need to take the time to read what Q says:
https://qposts.online/?q=covid&s=keyword
https://qposts.online/?q=corona&s=keyword
Agree 100%
But, it's not a flu shot - Influenza is a different virus. (Even though, as you observe, nearly all flu cases were classified as covid)
According to VAERS the flu shot killed 42/170M people, whereas covid vax killed 200x more...
Supposedly, researchers have spent 15 years attempting and failing to develop a working vaccine for SARS 1 (also a severe type of coronavirus, and prototype for SARS 2 / "covid"). So, it's possible that an attempt to do so in 3-6 months would also fail. (If you believe that they are mRNA technology .. that also has has 10 years of failure behind it, largely because they could not localize uptake or target specific cells)
100%
But, I'm having trouble wrapping my head around the idea of corrupt CDC fraudulently pumping UP the adverse events, when normally any significant signal in that database would cause an immediate halt. (Which of course didn't happen).
Reviewing the Q posts, I think Q is saying covid was something about as deadly as a bad flu year but was amplified for political purposes - totally agree. The vaccine as a "way out" of the fear programming has been somewhat successful, but then there's the question of risks, even if it was developed with good intentions.
For me, I'm not afraid of covid because I know it's not a real threat, especially with the even less dangerous "delta variant", and viable treatments exist which should cancel the EUA but for the massive corruption.
... but that doesnt mean i'm not concerned about being forced to poison myself.
It's too bad Q stopped posting lately, but he didn't seem to be that pro-vaccine
https://qposts.online/?q=vaccine&s=keyword
All I can say is I can't wait for the credits to roll on this movie.
When I said it's basically a flu shot, I meant it in the sense that we have a new virus, and they developed a vaccine for it, like they do each year with the seasonal flu.
You are of course, correct: the cold is not the flu, or vice-versa. If anyone took that from my statement, that was not my intention. I was trying to answer the question of what did I think the vaccine was, (I was asked was it saline, etc.) I was trying to make a comparison of it as being similar to the seasonal flu vaccine.
Sorry, I misunderstood your point.
If I understand, you mean that it is in fact a vaccine against coronavirus.
The authorities claim this is the case, and that it specifically targets the spike protein of the SARS 2 virus.
I believe both of those claims - but I am skeptical that the resulting vaccine is safe.
Flu vaccines based on well-tested platforms (tested over many years) and are annually updated with new strains. According to VAERS the flu vaccine is pretty safe. I'm not a fan of these for various reasons, but they don't seem that overtly harmful.
If we take the authorities story at face value: The new coronavirus vaccines are a new vaccine on a new platform with no long term studies in humans. They work using a very different mechanism from flu shots, which could reasonably be expected to cause problems (and indeed VAERS is a train wreck).
The vaccines used in the US are (claimed to be) based on mRNA or adenovirus vectored DNA platforms, which have never been approved for use in any product. I believe the Chinese vaccine is a killed or inactivated whole virus type vaccine which would be closer in mechanism to typical flu shots.
I would call Covid deaths an "adverse event"... and we know the CDC pumped up those up by 95%, and then quietly walked them back after the new year.
Yes, but the difference here is that VAERS deaths are counter-narrative.
Pumping up deaths from COVID creates the need for the vaccine. Pumping up adverse effects from the vaccine should be counterproductive to selling vaccines.
VAERS reports that are subsequently ignored does aid in the general attempt to divide the populace though.