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Kristi Noem Tells Unvaxxed Facing Vaccine Mandates at Work to Just Find a New Job (thelibertydaily.com)
posted 4 years ago by ashlanddog 4 years ago by ashlanddog +26 / -0
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– cluff1973 16 points 4 years ago +16 / -0

Actually, I agree with her. The title of this article is misleading. She said that workers who are facing vaccine mandates can say no and they can find an employer that values their individual choice. Wouldn't you rather work for a company that is not mandating vaccines than fight one that is trying to? Also, she is talking about her state because they have a booming economy and lots of opportunities. While many are taking it as she is condoning vaccine mandates, she is kind of reminding us we have a choice. Regardless of the laws and ethics behind these companies trying to mandate this, fighting them will take time and for the immediate future, there are choices that can be made.

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– test_pattern 5 points 4 years ago +5 / -0

the issue is the power of the regulatory agencies over whole business sectors.

Noem does not seem to be positioning herself to fight from a State rights and Constitutional protections stronghold.

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– ashlanddog [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That was my take on the article, thanks for your comment....

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– Taffy333 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0

A year ago she showed such promise; however, lately she keeps shooting herself in the foot, the end result being that she's turned herself into a has-been. I hope someone better primaries her.

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– ashlanddog [S] 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Sad but true...

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– deleted 9 points 4 years ago +9 / -0
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– special1ntere5t 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

My OHs company has just written to them all saying if they aren’t jabbed x2 by November they will have a meeting to discuss termination. Totally illegal. It’s coercion. So now we’ve got to lawyer up for OHs medical exemption

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– ghostsage 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Lawyer up for severance though, not continued employ. You have to let bad businesses die.

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– deleted 8 points 4 years ago +8 / -0
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– Junionthepipeline 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Sure they do

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– HunnyB 7 points 4 years ago +7 / -0

A little context since it looks like you chose not to provide any.

“Workers whose employers are mandating a vaccine for continued employment have the power to say no. Our robust economy and job market gives them the option to find a new employer that values personal choice and responsibility, and doesn’t force mandates on their employees.”

Not the same thing as when the Dems told people to learn to code, there like here in my state it's an employee's market because there are so many job openings.

Also this

There’s a fine line between defending individual rights and supporting the rights of private businesses to run their operations without government intervention. It isn’t always black and white, but the Covid-19 “vaccine” issue is one that steers a good chunk of conservatives away from our standard hands-off approach to business. Forcing vaccine mandates onto employees is a form of discrimination. Even if we set aside the skepticism millions of Americans have when it comes to the so-called “vaccines,” we cannot dismiss the draconian nature of vaccine mandates forcing people to choose between their careers and their healthcare freedoms.

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– ashlanddog [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I just post articles, I leave it up to the dear readers to make up their own minds and post comments...Diversity of thought is welcome in my world....

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– wisconsheepgirl 6 points 4 years ago +6 / -0

Sounds like a RINO. Why not protect the workers health freedom and privacy?

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– ashlanddog [S] 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

They can sue for wrongful termination later....

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– deleted 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0
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– Junionthepipeline 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Even in anti workers rights states you can

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– Bigly2020 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Ffs are there any of them worthy? But at the same time none will think exactly or do exactly what we expect.

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– ashlanddog [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Valid observation...

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– redtoe-skipper 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Bull shit article full of bias.

The question is whether you want bi gov only for the areas you are interested in?

Before shooting from the hip, first do your risk assessment. Not only for your personal circumstances, but also for the employer. Demonstrate you are a negotiating partner.

RISK ANALYSIS:

Assign a number 1-10 for each question. 1= nill, non-existent, very low probability, 10 is assured destruction.

  1. What is the chance of an issue manifesting?
  2. What is the chance of the issue NOT being detected?
  3. What is the impact of the issue manifesting?

And this leads to question: What are the mitigating measures.

So, in terms of covid and this sarscov "virus".

@1.Every year we have a flu season with an IFR of 0,1 - 0,2. In this case we have an IFR of 0,13 - 0,16. Every year! So, the chance of this occurring is 10!

@2. Detection is quite possible given the quality of health care. Note that while the shit was on in China, on January 15 2020 a traveler was spotted entering the US and quarantined.

So, the actual answer here may be 1 or 2. You may also consider your personal circumstances. What is the chance of you not detecting? Quite low, is it not? Especially, given 1.5 years of attention to this matter.

@3. Well, you MAY et sick, or not. What is YOUR general health situation. What risk group are you in? Do you have underlying problems, like obesity, heart and vascular issues, cancer, the usual suspects.

So, your chance of getting ill are quite low, but the chance of you dying from it, are even lower. The infection fatality rate is 0,13 - 0,16. However, depending on your age bracket, your survival rate approaches 100%!

Spread is the fearful thing. How do you combat spread. Apparently NOT with a vaccine, as these neither prevent spread nor illness. But rather, induce side effects of all kinds in the short term, while long term effects are not yet manifest. How smart is it to introduce unknown risks vectors, that may cause long term disability.

So, actually, the answer to the 3rd question maybe 1 to 3.

Taken together:

In the scenario where every answer is 1, the result is: 1 * 1 * 1 equals 1. Or no problemo.

In a scenario where every answer is 10, the result is: 10 * 10 * 10 equals = 1000. This is a scenario where all the stops are pulled, the country is on a war footing, every jack is armed and ready, blasting bullets around.

But with the answer found we may have

a. 10 * 1 * 1 = 10 b. 10 * 1 * 2 = 20 c. 10 * 1 * 3 = 30

In total, in relation to the shooting war, this is nothing to be afraid of. Depending on the risk factor of each question, certain particulars may indicate mitigation measures should be conceived a la: If this then that, iterative.

Mitigation:

It may even be fruitful to discuss actually the problem with viruses: replication. What you need is replication inhibitors. We are talking Vit D , Zinc and Selenium. And of course, HCQ and Ivermectine.

And even if you were to get sick, N-acetylcisteine will also be able to help you cure. And once cured, you have transited to the immune bracket! So, actually, helping to STOP the spread.

This type of analysis comes from a system called Six Sigma. And allow me to tell you, risk managers are totally silent and do not apply these principles to the created plandemic. I have yet to see anyone taking that route.

I used it in a letter last year to my Senators and was only met with silence. But, if you prepare, your logic will show the way forward. You can use this for all types of issues.

So, talk to your employer, based on the facts of the plandemic, your personal circumstances and objectives of your employer. Try to find common ground without compromising principles.

Sell me this pen!

If that does not work, there is always the option to look around. Maybe, you have to jump in the water and swim freely.

Companies that lose their employees over this matter, actually SHOULD not be allowed to succeed! And that is a risk worth taking?

One overarching question

There is one powerful, overarching question I always use to analyze anything (cause and effect, knowing when and where you are. Certain people will get very uncomfortable, because their bullshit is shown to fly around)

Who does what when where how against which costs and profit?

Q told us to use logical thinking. Risk assessment can help to do just that.

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– ashlanddog [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Thoughtful comment, thanks for taking to time to share it....

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– Halya 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Like everyone else I'd try to keep my job as long as I can but in the meantime I'd look for another job. After all I dont want to work for a tyrant. Go figure, what's next. If they mandate this they can mandate everything including transfer to a camp.

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– ashlanddog [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

File this under "Distinct Possibilities"...

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– Taffy333 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

I'd file it under "I Hope Trump Has More Sense Than That".

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– ashlanddog [S] 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Mr Trump has exhibited some rather "interesting" personal choices over the course of his presidency....

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– ghostsage 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

(personnel)

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– vetpatriot17 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That's shortsighted stupidity. Fed govt is now leading the way. Eventually millions and millions searching for the few businesses with jobs not forcing vaccinations will be a losing proposition. And it isn't capitalism. It's fascism.

This is America. She's wrong.

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