Apologies—my previous post invoking the Nuremberg trials caused some understandable consternation. My bad! The Nuremberg trials represent MILITARY LAW, and should not be construed as a call for violence or death against someone (many received prison sentences or had sentences commuted). 🇺🇸
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Cool. I feel better now, FWIW. 👍 This site has been really strong lately, and you deserve a LOT of credit. So that spicy hot take that I obviously disagreed with gave me pause.
We all have bad takes, poorly worded episodes - your role here just makes yours a bit more high profile, and thus having to say "Let's redo this" a little tougher, so when you do, big credit to you.
One tangential point I'll add: Calls for violence and death aren't inherently bad... I just didn't think it was deserved for THAT guy. What he admitted could not have been easy.
Cheers, cats!
Absolutely. I think of myself as one of you, but with extra duties (banning shills and keeping things civil is a "job" for sure). When I get it wrong, I appreciate getting called out. And if I stickied my hot-headed take, then I have to sticky this one, too. Rats, sigh.
My post might have avoided all this had I said, "I don't forgive you, I want you tried under military law." So, definitely, your point was valid. But, OK, since we buried that hatchet, ON to the next one! So let me ask: do you think he can be forgiven, given his position?
Before I retired, I worked in journalism for 25 years, 15 of it at some of the biggest Midwest newspapers. The idea that they didn't KNOW is just ludicrous to me. At the newspaper (at least back then) the editors were untouchable. We answered to the readers alone. The executives only ran the paper, and would even ignore us and avoid being seen talking to us in any informal way due to optics. Now?
To me, this guy was complicit for 18 months. He dumped his reader's best interests—in my mind, a fiduciary duty—and let the narrative be dictated to him. That... Well, from my perspective, that literally BOGGLES my mind. I've seen editors (none I knew personally, mind you) walk for MUCH less. That's why I'm all over the "knowingly" part.
I don't doubt that/disagree with that for a second. (You carried the "knowingly" over to our crypto debate, which confused me there for a bit. 😀)
Yes, he know. They knew. That knew that they we're lying, and they knew that that was wrong.
But they sunk into lies gradually, which is how it happens. Likely he dug that hole over a lifetime. And to now shake them off, in this still-totalitarian-statist environment, publicly, is not. easy. at. all. "Stunning and brave", I might have been tempted to call it, if that phrase weren't so woke-broken.
That's not to say there weren't real, terrible results from those lies. That's not to say there shouldn't be consequences for what he has done. But, at the same time, practically and humanely, we want to make clear there are going to be rewards, there will be grace for those who can turn away from lies at the very time when doing so will be the most difficult.
Respectfully, however, I don't for one second call reversing their stance Brave or courageous when clearly, they are only doing it because the protesters are in the streets literally outside their headquarters. Six months ago? Maybe that would have been brave. But no, absolutely, not now.
No worries and no forgiveness needed from me u/catsfive! I understood and THANK you for your service as a Patriot. Get some rest fren!
Haven't seen anyone calling for vigilante killings. We all want JUSTICE. Proper justice through the systems we have in place, and the appropriate punishment many of these globohomo traitors have earned is death.
I'm not sure what he said that you disagreed with in that other post, since I am at the point where I agree wholeheartedly.
Try reading what I wrote.
I was very clear.
Everyone else understood.
It's not that difficult.
You can manage.