Not sure why the poster deleted their response to you, but I'll assume it was this logic:
So the vaccine is a placebo currently, in which case it's perfectly safe to take?
You must've meant perfectly unnecessary if such were true.
If - side effects are being reported and documented, people are experiencing medical issues after vaccination, and some even dying - the argument was never "all vaccines are placebos."
Given the fear of the words, vaccine hesitancy, do you not speculate how much we are not being told?
On top of that - why are there some very adverse reactions, like sickness over the course of days and even weeks, while others feel little difference than before? Why give those who received the Placebo shot the same level of rights as those who received the real deal?
Do you simply never ask questions like this?
You - many outsiders, and even many (most) here miss the point of opposing the vaccine passport, the vaccine mandates, and the threat of firing for the unvaccinated.
This isn't about being Anti-Vax. Q himself counteracts the concept;
In no statement, does he attempt to COERCE the American people, into getting this vaccine. If they want it - they can get it. If they don't - so be it.
When an employer threatens repercussion - Coercion.
When a government demands it for a passport - Coercion.
When it becomes mandatory - Coercion.
"Permissible Medical Experiments"
The voluntary consent of the human subject is absolutely essential. This means that the person involved should have legal capacity to give consent; should be so situated as to be able to exercise free power of choice, without the intervention of any element of force, fraud, deceit, duress, overreaching, or other ulterior form of constraint or coercion; and should have sufficient knowledge and comprehension of the elements of the subject matter involved as to enable him to make an understanding and enlightened decision. This latter element requires that before the acceptance of an affirmative decision by the experimental subject there should be made known to him the nature, duration, and purpose of the experiment; the method and means by which it is to be conducted; all inconveniences and hazards reasonably to be expected; and the effects upon his health or person which may possibly come from his participation in the experiment. The duty and responsibility for ascertaining the quality of the consent rests upon each individual who initiates, directs, or engages in the experiment. It is a personal duty and responsibility which may not be delegated to another with impunity.
The experiment should be such as to yield fruitful results for the good of society, unprocurable by other methods or means of study, and not random and unnecessary in nature.
The experiment should be so designed and based on the results of animal experimentation and a knowledge of the natural history of the disease or other problem under study that the anticipated results will justify the performance of the experiment.
The experiment should be so conducted as to avoid all unnecessary physical and mental suffering and injury.
No experiment should be conducted where there is an a priori reason to believe that death or disabling injury will occur; except, perhaps, in those experiments where the experimental physicians also serve as subjects.
The degree of risk to be taken should never exceed that determined by the humanitarian importance of the problem to be solved by the experiment.
Proper preparations should be made and adequate facilities provided to protect the experimental subject against even remote possibilities of injury, disability, or death.
The experiment should be conducted only by scientifically qualified persons. The highest degree of skill and care should be required through all stages of the experiment of those who conduct or engage in the experiment.
During the course of the experiment the human subject should be at liberty to bring the experiment to an end if he has reached the physical or mental state where continuation of the experiment seems to him to be impossible.
During the course of the experiment the scientist in charge must be prepared to terminate the experiment at any stage, if he has probable cause to believe, in the exercise of the good faith, superior skill and careful judgment required of him that a continuation of the experiment is likely to result in injury, disability, or death to the experimental subject.
The existence of Placebo injections show everything people here need.
These vaccines are an experimental procedure, and none of the above rules have been followed.
Trump gave us the vaccine, yes. Only Tyrants have tried to make it mandatory.
The only reason I brought it up in the first place is because IF the vaccine is currently saline, as some people here suggest, then that means itβs perfectly safe. Saline is definitionally safe. And since most people here do NOT think the vaccine is safe, I just thought it was an odd theory for Q World.
Q isn't here. Only anons are. Anons are all unique individuals and theories people have that aren't related to Q drops are just that. Nobody's here speaking for the "movement." They're speaking for themselves or shilling.
Q World is a big tent kind of place! πͺ π But we draw the line at clowns: no clowns allowed, unless they've completely disavowed being clowns in action and have flipped, making them contortionists or trapeze-types.
Not sure why the poster deleted their response to you, but I'll assume it was this logic:
You must've meant perfectly unnecessary if such were true.
If - side effects are being reported and documented, people are experiencing medical issues after vaccination, and some even dying - the argument was never "all vaccines are placebos."
I remember when Israel was the first to break the news regarding Myocarditis.
1:100,000 officially recognized, became 1:20,000 as per findings of the researchers, by the release of the article. That is a "risk." Enough of a "risk" that the CDC now prominently features a glaring warning regarding Myocarditis.
Given the fear of the words, vaccine hesitancy, do you not speculate how much we are not being told?
On top of that - why are there some very adverse reactions, like sickness over the course of days and even weeks, while others feel little difference than before? Why give those who received the Placebo shot the same level of rights as those who received the real deal?
Do you simply never ask questions like this?
You - many outsiders, and even many (most) here miss the point of opposing the vaccine passport, the vaccine mandates, and the threat of firing for the unvaccinated.
This isn't about being Anti-Vax. Q himself counteracts the concept;
u/#q1010
This is about refusing to be coerced into a medical procedure.
Furthermore, this is about refusing to be coerced into an EXPERIMENTAL medical procedure.
Liberty of the individual, extends to their right to determine the medical treatment they see as fit for themselves. Trump showed this when he opened the gateway for Americans to opt for experimental medical trials. https://www.cnbc.com/2018/05/30/trump-signs-right-to-try-legislation-on-experimental-medicines.html
In no statement, does he attempt to COERCE the American people, into getting this vaccine. If they want it - they can get it. If they don't - so be it.
When an employer threatens repercussion - Coercion.
When a government demands it for a passport - Coercion.
When it becomes mandatory - Coercion.
"Permissible Medical Experiments"
The existence of Placebo injections show everything people here need.
These vaccines are an experimental procedure, and none of the above rules have been followed.
Trump gave us the vaccine, yes. Only Tyrants have tried to make it mandatory.
The only reason I brought it up in the first place is because IF the vaccine is currently saline, as some people here suggest, then that means itβs perfectly safe. Saline is definitionally safe. And since most people here do NOT think the vaccine is safe, I just thought it was an odd theory for Q World.
Q isn't here. Only anons are. Anons are all unique individuals and theories people have that aren't related to Q drops are just that. Nobody's here speaking for the "movement." They're speaking for themselves or shilling.
Q World is a big tent kind of place! πͺ π But we draw the line at clowns: no clowns allowed, unless they've completely disavowed being clowns in action and have flipped, making them contortionists or trapeze-types.