Don't let your end time theology ruin your faith to overcome this world, your faith to be the victor in Christ. Jesus returning to take us away is a faith that weakens the resolve to make the world a better place, it weakens the resolve to win, overcome and conquer by faith in the word of God. End time theology makes Christians weak, waiting instead of acting, expecting God to fix everything, and not take responsibility for making the kingdom of God on earth. God is not going to fix it without people of faith taking action. Don't let your doctrine make you a weak poor example of a human being.
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Taking us away from the world is not the same as taking us away from the earth.
The Earth is God-Made The World is Man-Made. The end of the world is the end of the system that has been set up by evil.
Right, and you are in the world, but not of the world. Great point.
This is 100% correct.
Don't know about that. The physical body isn't designed to last. Besides, the Creator said: "You shall die on the day you eat of it" Adam lived to be several hundred years old.
Did he die?
yes. He died spiritually. He left God's presence, and the position of God's son, and adopted Lucifer as his new Father, and become Lucifer's guy. Spiritual death is being separated from God, and being part of Satan's lineage, not Christ's lineage.
I mean, why do we have to be "reborn"? Because we are all born in the Satanic lineage, not in God's. Thus, through Christ, we become "reborn" into Christ's lineage. We pass from death, to life.
Christ's return is the completion of the process. Because, although our spirits are returned to God's lineage by the Blood of the Cross, our flesh has remained under Satan's control, and Satan's lineage. Both the earth, and our flesh, needs to complete the process, so that in spirit AND in flesh, we are part of Christ's lineage.
ROM 8:23
Yes, they would. The physical body only does not last because of the fall.
"Don't know about that. The physical body isn't designed to last."
Don't forget there was a 2nd tree in the Garden: The Tree of Life.
This is why Cherubim were placed at the entrance with a flaming sword to keep Adam and Eve (and Satan - another Cherubim) out of the Garden, lest they eat of the Tree of Life and live forever with the knowledge of Good and Evil.
"Then the LORD God said, “Behold, the man has become like one of Us, knowing good and evil. And now, lest he reach out his hand and take also from the tree of life, and eat, and live forever...”Therefore the LORD God banished him from the Garden of Eden to work the ground from which he had been taken. So He drove out the man and stationed cherubim on the east side of the Garden of Eden, along with a whirling sword of flame to guard the way to the tree of life."
~ Gen 3:22-24
Certainly don't forget that.
But also, consider:
"Hope deferred makes the heart sick, but when longing is fulfilled, it is a tree of life"
"Blessed are those who wash their robes, so that they may have the right to the tree of life and may enter the city by the gates."
So, what is this tree of life? What was the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil?
Some will interpret this completely literally, thinking there were two literal trees, and a fruit on one of them, and a snake that spoke with words.
But that's not really logical or consistent with so much we know about God.
Why did God give the commandment? "Do not eat of the Fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil" but NOT say "Do not eat of the Tree of life?" Why was the way to the ToL only blocked AFTER the fall?
Test? No. IF I put my children at home, put a bottle of cyanide or lets say, a delicious bar of chocolate laced with cyanide on the table, then said: "Kids, I'm going out! Don't eat the chocolate! If you eat the chocolate, you will die!"
If I tested my kids in that manner, I'd be put in a nuthouse or sentenced for murder. A Father of love would NOT test his children in a test that would result in their death and thousands and thousands of years of suffering if they failed. Inconceivable.
Also, Adam and Eve BOTH knew they would die if they ate. So what could they possibly desire MORE than life itself? Some random fruit, no matter HOW delicious, no way anyone would eat it, let alone pure children of God, if they knew it meant they would die.
Moreover, can the mere act of something cause sin? "Not what goes into the mouth defiles a man; but what comes out of the mouth, this defiles a man." Matt 15:11. Jesus words.
Conclusion? The fruit was not a literal fruit. It was a symbol of something. Just as the snake was not a literal snake, but a symbol (which we know subsequently was a symbol of Lucifer, one of the 3 most powerful and senior archangels)
Whatever it symbolized, Adam and Eve were tempted to "eat" it, even though they knew the consequences would be death.
And if the Fruit is a symbol, what about the two trees? The two trees are symbols too. Like the snake.
Why is Jesus called "The true vine"? What did Adam desire, such that his Fall meant he was cut off from it?
The Tree of Life was the symbol of the perfected Son of God. Adam was destined to become that son, but he fell. Thus Jesus had to come in order to fulfill that perfection. From before the creation of the world, God had already planned the perfection of his Son. The Son is the model for the entire creation. In this sense, when Jesus fulfilled this, he became the fulfillment of that vision and ideal.
"For it became Him, for whom are all things, and through whom are all things, in bringing many sons unto glory, to make the author of their salvation perfect through sufferings"
Christ grew to his perfection via his sufferings in his life. His life before he began his ministry was not actually a happy one at all. Sufferings.
The Tree of the Knowledge of Good and Evil is a symbol of Eve. Even before perfection. Everything hinged on Eve. If Eve resisted temptation from the Archangel, there would be no fall. Adam and Eve would grow to perfection, and God's kingdom would have come to fulfillment without a history of pain and torture.
Two trees in the midst of the Garden? = two humans, a male and a female - at the very central point of God's universe and creation. His son and daughter. And, because they had to grow to perfection by their OWN responsibility, responsibility to be faithful, to obey, to UNITE with their Father's word, that's WHY they were given the commandment.
No commandment? = no responsibility = not growth, maturity and self-creative effort (via faith). Robots, only.
BUT if they failed, it would bring disaster. Death, spiritual death, separate from God, and become reborn as Satan's children.
So what was the fruit? What would be so precious that they would even risk death, be drawn across the line?
What is a fruit? a fruit is that which contains the seed of the next generation. it is the fulfilment, the sweet, tasty, fulfillment that contains the seed for the next generation.
The fruit of the Tree of the knowledge of Good and Evil was the fruit of Eve, her sexual nature. Eating that prematurely, would bring disaster. ONLY after she had matured, should they eat. Also, they ONLY way they would eat this fruit prematurely, sinless as they were, would be IF the Archangel tempted Eve and seduced her.
Think about it. What is the greatest tool of the Cabal, the Satanic bloodlines? Pedophlia. Sex with immature, pure children. Coincidence? No. The FIRST crime ever committed against God was the crime or pedophilia. The First Pedo was Lucifer. He tempted God's pure and immature daughter, whom God had warned, via Adam, NOT to eat. What happened? She ate. Then? She went to Adam and tempted him to eat. What happened? They, reborn now as Satan's children via a blood connection, lost their capacity and even qualification to live in "Eden" - God's Created ideal world - and the way to perfection was cut off by Adam.
Until the True Vine came, after millenia of preparation, and through his own suffering and effort, accomplished perfect unity with the Father's heart. So that the Father lived in and through him 100%, as humans were originally designed to do.
Why else do we have to be "reborn"? Why do we await our adoption as sons, the deliverance of our bodies? Because we are all born of that fallen lineage of the Archangel.
And if and when we unite with Christ at the Second Coming, we will be adopted, our flesh restored to God's full dominion, and the way for our own perfection will open up. We will wash our robes (Unite in purity) and be qualified to eat of the Tree of Life (become part of Jesus' perfect lineage via our own perfection through him.
Solomon talks all the time about conjugal love as being likened to eat a fruit. All the time.
These and other mysteries...
To some, well most, these ideas and this interpretation will bee shocking. unbelievable. Trigger a christian form of cognitive dissonance. Because we have NEVER read of understood the scripture from this perspective. But the more one investigates it, the more it makes sense. Not just sense. It opens up the reality of God's true heart. His heart was broken on the day his children abandoned him for an eternity of suffering. Jesus was a man of tears. (read the gospels, to see)
Christ is not only our savior. It through CHrist and the Holy spirit that we leave the realm of death - slavery under the false father Satan - and enter the realm of life, destined to be restored to God in both spirit AND in flesh.
"Not only so, but we ourselves, who have the firstfruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait eagerly for our adoption to sonship, the redemption of our bodies" Rom 8:23
Our Bodies redeemed? Why? Because still the flesh has remained under Satan's ... dominion.
Peace and Strength, in Him, patriot...
FI
What you say is correct.
"But our citizenship is in heaven, and we eagerly await a Savior from there, the Lord Jesus Christ...' ~ Philippians 3:20
Striving to establish or "keep" what we have here on this earth is futile, in the long run. For Satan is the Prince of the air, the current Ruler of this world. Only the Christ can defeat Lucifer and the Kingdom he (lucifer) is trying to establish. We know, from prophecy, that Satan WILL be successful for a time at setting up this kingdom (One World Governance) here on earth.
We (Believers in the Christ) are also called "sojourners" on this earth:
1 Chronicles 29:15; Psalm 39:12; Psalm 119:19; Psalm 119:54; Hebrews 11:9; Hebrews 11:13
There are always two prophecies: one if we fail, and one if we succeed. Only Christ has defeated Lucifer, but he needs US to unite with him and finish the job. That's what all this is about.
"Does the Lord delight in burnt offerings and sacrifices / as much as in obeying the Lord? To obey is better than sacrifice."
Better to unite, and fulfill his will, than to disobey, not unite, and require a penance, an atonement.
Christ could forgive sins BEFORE he went to the cross, right?