lol yeah... Years on the take and the Taliban lives in mud huts and ride 25 year old motorcycles.
btw... I don't even accept that Afghanistan has rare Earth reserves. They would have been accessed already, through cooperation between the Afghan government and US interests.
Afghanistan is a big CIA black market for drugs. It was really because of the CIA that overthrew the Taliban government in 2001. The Taliban government of the 1990s shut down 98% of the opium production. When the Taliban government was overthrown and the Karzai (an ex-Unocal representative) government was installed, the poppy field production again increased to former levels and even increased.
It's very 'odd' that the collapse occurred as fast as did. It's as if it was almost done intentionally. The weapons left behind is a tell-tale sign 'something' is not right with the official story.
I tend to believe what we are seeing is the Trump's Administration policy of ending the extensive CIA operation in Afghanistan for good. This massive CIA 'black project' netted the agency tens of billions of dollars in opium drug sales.
If the weapons were left behind, it isn't to defend against the Chinese, it is to defend against the CIA and its mercenary forces.
I can only buy the Chinese takeover due to the fact that they are not afraid to genocide people.
Complete and utter decimation is needed to completely take over and pacify Afghanistan. That is it, there is no other way.
Which is why you should not be trying to take over the region to begin with: If you do, you have to commit atrocities of a scope beyond anything we have done modern day (ala Carthage)
Um, the industrial Uighur death camps don’t seem to have bothered the mighty ummah that much. No, the Chinese don’t give a bleep for victimology (even while they create real victims with their serial depraved mass genocides), so the Islamic world, with their ceaseless “Islamophobia” victim whining, is rendered powerless against the Chinese.
"They don't give a fuck about oil pipelines and rare Earth minerals."
Really? It's unfortunate you don't know the history of the Taliban as it relates to the united States.
It was the Taliban that originally shut down opium production jeopardizing the CIA's world-wide 'black' projects. This is one of the reasons the US sent troops to Afghanistan.
The history of America's relationship with the Taliban goes back to the 1980s. It was the Taliban that the Carter Administration's Zbigniew Brzezinski funded to fight against the Soviets until the Soviets withdrew in 1989. When the Soviets withdrew, it was the Taliban that became Afghanistan's first installed government after the Soviets withdrew. This was all in accordance to CIA-controlled US policy.
Years later, the Bush Administration’s held negotiations with the Taliban government for building a pipeline from Caspian Oil Basin and Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to the Pakistani port city of Karachi. A branch of this pipeline was to feed all the power companies of western India. Enron had invested heavily in those power plants. It is well known that the American petroleum giant Unocal was very interested in this project and pursued it for years. The Taliban was in favor of building the pipeline. However in 1998, its efforts were thwarted because of the Afghanistan civil war and then after bin Laden was accused of blowing up two American embassies in Africa. This caused the Taliban to become diplomatically isolated. The regional instability halted any further discussions of the Afghanistan pipeline. Although, Bridas, a former Argentinean oil firm was favored by the Taliban and was willing to start building the pipeline despite the civil war.
It is interesting to note, the Taliban was first funded and installed by the American government, but were then ultimately overthrown by the U.S. Taliban delegates met with State Department officials ante bellum and Unocal in Washington D.C. and may have infuriated their hosts with their continued interest in Unocal’s competitor Bridas, (Bridas has since merged with BP Amoco Argentina). This was after Taliban government officials met in Houston and was given royal treatment that included a trip to see Mount Rushmore. There are several reports that describe the Bush administration's negotiations concerning the pipeline with the Taliban including threats of war if the project was not allowed to pass through Afghanistan. The Taliban was then overthrown by the US government and a new Afghani President, Harmid Karzai was installed in the Afghanistan government. It is more than coincidence that President Karzai was a former Unocal consultant.
With the Karzai government, opium production immediately increased to previous levels before the Taliban came to power.
The Taliban are not who the US government (CIA) portrays them as being.
I'm 55, dipshit, and have an MA in International Relations and a BA in Political Science. My thesis was on Pakistan and Nuclear Proliferation.
They absolutely don't care about Oil pipelines. They CANCELLED pipeline projects by Unocal, Shell, Enron and Haliburton. Although the invasion was specifically to restore the global heroin trade, it was hidden in the guise of the 9/11 attacks and oil greed.
Like I said you're a young whipper snapper. We use to say 'soft sciences' like political science degrees were the boatswain mates of college. We took those GE classes as mental R&R while taking the 'hard sciences' like engineering and physics.
"They absolutely don't care about Oil pipelines."
In a short time, depending on the Caspian Sea oil reserves, and if there is no further war in Afghanistan, there will be a pipeline. Count on it.
"They CANCELLED pipeline projects by Unocal, Shell, Enron and Haliburton."
I already explained this to you.
"Although the invasion was specifically to restore the global heroin trade, it was hidden in the guise of the 9/11 attacks and oil greed."
This is true, but there was also the oil pipeline and rare earth metals that was attractive too. And let us not forget about the Russian Encirclement policy too.
The equipment left behind in the form of mechanized gear will not last without up keep and maintenance which they cannot do. The small weapons and explosives they can and will use.
What China has gained is we no longer have a foot hold in their back yard. The majority of the Chinese population is on the east coast the west is very rural and empty. Afghanistan boarders the western side.
China gained that the US military look terrible. Does the military need any more embarrassment or demoralization? This will make Taiwan among other nations question if the US can not to mention if we will honor our commitments.
Russia has committed to working with the Taliban and while China has not committed to it we know they will not hesitate to wipe out the population of the country without hesitancy if it suits their interest.
China now has another country for their Belt and Road project this one sites right between Iran and China.
What happens when the US starts Sanctioning on these countries? What happens when China says they will do business with them anyways? What happens when China is the avenue they can sell their goods to the rest of the world? What influence will America have as a world economic power as this continues to unfold.
Like it or not politics from local to global work on optics and influence. We just lost a ton ... again.
Since the DS is also very forward thinking and makes as much use of things as they can, this is probably intended. This will lead to the rise of the East, which will lead to eventual armed conflict. That is long term ancillary benefit to DS. They are already building the narrative for it.
As well the short term they will use this to turn the opinion of the "Blue no matter who" mob against Biden and prepare for his eventual removal. If he is assassinated they could blame the Red team or even military through veteran that is disgruntled or what have you. This cements the division driven in to the country presently.
This is not part of a good plan.
But what do I know I am just some uneducated peasant looking at outside of my assigned domicile.
lol yeah... Years on the take and the Taliban lives in mud huts and ride 25 year old motorcycles.
btw... I don't even accept that Afghanistan has rare Earth reserves. They would have been accessed already, through cooperation between the Afghan government and US interests.
the Taliban had 98% of the poppy fields razed by 2001
they killed the farmers that did not change their crops out
And after 911 it only took 2 years for them to get back to record level crops of heroin.
and then the Pill Mills and 50k American overdoses per year, for 20 years.
They single-handedly put the CIA worldwide opium black market in dire straits.
Exactly, they hated Sovjet communism, but they're gonna embrace Chinese communism? Gimme a break!
I was thinking this could be why equipment was left behind - to arm them to defend against ccp incursion.
Afghanistan is a big CIA black market for drugs. It was really because of the CIA that overthrew the Taliban government in 2001. The Taliban government of the 1990s shut down 98% of the opium production. When the Taliban government was overthrown and the Karzai (an ex-Unocal representative) government was installed, the poppy field production again increased to former levels and even increased.
It's very 'odd' that the collapse occurred as fast as did. It's as if it was almost done intentionally. The weapons left behind is a tell-tale sign 'something' is not right with the official story.
I tend to believe what we are seeing is the Trump's Administration policy of ending the extensive CIA operation in Afghanistan for good. This massive CIA 'black project' netted the agency tens of billions of dollars in opium drug sales.
If the weapons were left behind, it isn't to defend against the Chinese, it is to defend against the CIA and its mercenary forces.
Flynn's brother in the theatre is noted.
China gets the benefit of our military being sent to Afghanistan and not to Taiwan.
I can only buy the Chinese takeover due to the fact that they are not afraid to genocide people.
Complete and utter decimation is needed to completely take over and pacify Afghanistan. That is it, there is no other way.
Which is why you should not be trying to take over the region to begin with: If you do, you have to commit atrocities of a scope beyond anything we have done modern day (ala Carthage)
They would suffer the wrath of OPEC and the entire Muslim world if they pulled that shit in Afghanistan.
Um, the industrial Uighur death camps don’t seem to have bothered the mighty ummah that much. No, the Chinese don’t give a bleep for victimology (even while they create real victims with their serial depraved mass genocides), so the Islamic world, with their ceaseless “Islamophobia” victim whining, is rendered powerless against the Chinese.
we'll just have to wait and see...
Uighur's are not armed and they reside within Chinese borders. That is a false comparison and leaves out just about everything other than Motive.
Really? It's unfortunate you don't know the history of the Taliban as it relates to the united States.
It was the Taliban that originally shut down opium production jeopardizing the CIA's world-wide 'black' projects. This is one of the reasons the US sent troops to Afghanistan.
The history of America's relationship with the Taliban goes back to the 1980s. It was the Taliban that the Carter Administration's Zbigniew Brzezinski funded to fight against the Soviets until the Soviets withdrew in 1989. When the Soviets withdrew, it was the Taliban that became Afghanistan's first installed government after the Soviets withdrew. This was all in accordance to CIA-controlled US policy.
Years later, the Bush Administration’s held negotiations with the Taliban government for building a pipeline from Caspian Oil Basin and Turkmenistan through Afghanistan to the Pakistani port city of Karachi. A branch of this pipeline was to feed all the power companies of western India. Enron had invested heavily in those power plants. It is well known that the American petroleum giant Unocal was very interested in this project and pursued it for years. The Taliban was in favor of building the pipeline. However in 1998, its efforts were thwarted because of the Afghanistan civil war and then after bin Laden was accused of blowing up two American embassies in Africa. This caused the Taliban to become diplomatically isolated. The regional instability halted any further discussions of the Afghanistan pipeline. Although, Bridas, a former Argentinean oil firm was favored by the Taliban and was willing to start building the pipeline despite the civil war.
It is interesting to note, the Taliban was first funded and installed by the American government, but were then ultimately overthrown by the U.S. Taliban delegates met with State Department officials ante bellum and Unocal in Washington D.C. and may have infuriated their hosts with their continued interest in Unocal’s competitor Bridas, (Bridas has since merged with BP Amoco Argentina). This was after Taliban government officials met in Houston and was given royal treatment that included a trip to see Mount Rushmore. There are several reports that describe the Bush administration's negotiations concerning the pipeline with the Taliban including threats of war if the project was not allowed to pass through Afghanistan. The Taliban was then overthrown by the US government and a new Afghani President, Harmid Karzai was installed in the Afghanistan government. It is more than coincidence that President Karzai was a former Unocal consultant.
With the Karzai government, opium production immediately increased to previous levels before the Taliban came to power.
The Taliban are not who the US government (CIA) portrays them as being.
no shit...
did you see my comment about that on this very thread?
I know all about the BIG GAME, as Brzezinski named it. I actually studied Central Asia in great detail in college.
Then why did you state the following when it's not true?
I lived it. You're young. That's why we use to call general ed classes the 'soft sciences'.
I'm 55, dipshit, and have an MA in International Relations and a BA in Political Science. My thesis was on Pakistan and Nuclear Proliferation.
They absolutely don't care about Oil pipelines. They CANCELLED pipeline projects by Unocal, Shell, Enron and Haliburton. Although the invasion was specifically to restore the global heroin trade, it was hidden in the guise of the 9/11 attacks and oil greed.
Like I said you're a young whipper snapper. We use to say 'soft sciences' like political science degrees were the boatswain mates of college. We took those GE classes as mental R&R while taking the 'hard sciences' like engineering and physics.
In a short time, depending on the Caspian Sea oil reserves, and if there is no further war in Afghanistan, there will be a pipeline. Count on it.
I already explained this to you.
This is true, but there was also the oil pipeline and rare earth metals that was attractive too. And let us not forget about the Russian Encirclement policy too.
So Much This
The equipment left behind in the form of mechanized gear will not last without up keep and maintenance which they cannot do. The small weapons and explosives they can and will use.
What China has gained is we no longer have a foot hold in their back yard. The majority of the Chinese population is on the east coast the west is very rural and empty. Afghanistan boarders the western side.
China gained that the US military look terrible. Does the military need any more embarrassment or demoralization? This will make Taiwan among other nations question if the US can not to mention if we will honor our commitments.
Russia has committed to working with the Taliban and while China has not committed to it we know they will not hesitate to wipe out the population of the country without hesitancy if it suits their interest.
China now has another country for their Belt and Road project this one sites right between Iran and China.
What happens when the US starts Sanctioning on these countries? What happens when China says they will do business with them anyways? What happens when China is the avenue they can sell their goods to the rest of the world? What influence will America have as a world economic power as this continues to unfold.
Like it or not politics from local to global work on optics and influence. We just lost a ton ... again.
Since the DS is also very forward thinking and makes as much use of things as they can, this is probably intended. This will lead to the rise of the East, which will lead to eventual armed conflict. That is long term ancillary benefit to DS. They are already building the narrative for it.
As well the short term they will use this to turn the opinion of the "Blue no matter who" mob against Biden and prepare for his eventual removal. If he is assassinated they could blame the Red team or even military through veteran that is disgruntled or what have you. This cements the division driven in to the country presently.
This is not part of a good plan.
But what do I know I am just some uneducated peasant looking at outside of my assigned domicile.
willingly ...
Its possible that the Afgan government was going to allow China to get oil/rare earth minerals and the Taliban is trying to put a stop to that.