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Where are the animal test results? (www.fda.gov)
posted 4 years ago by krypt0 4 years ago by krypt0 +17 / -0
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– krypt0 [S] 4 points 4 years ago +4 / -0

Step 1 - Sponsor must test new drug on animals for toxicity. Multiple species are used to gather basic information on the safety and efficacy of the compound being investigated/researched.

Where are the results of this step?

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– MAG768720 3 points 4 years ago +3 / -0

Another interesting question is about the Phase I, Phase II, and Phase III process of a drug trial.

Pre-Phase I: lab animals (where are the results of this?)

Phase I: 20-100 subjects (where are the results of this?)

Phase II: 100-300 subjects (where are the results of this?)

Phase III: several thousand subjects, evaluated OVER A 2 TO 5 YEAR SPAN

They went straight to Phase III, and it lasted 3 months.

http://www.marginc.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/08/Phase_I_II_III_for_website.pdf

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– AngelArmy0980 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

There are not any…

They all died, those are the results..

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– krypt0 [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

Animal test results are supposed to be available in step 7 NDA Application. Great, let's see the test results.

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– Awokcanuck 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Animal test results also required in the Nuremberg code.

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– PrayingforMiracles 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

That's my question. They skipped right to human trials?

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– test_pattern 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

there are animal studies. they show the spike protein does not stay in the shoulder (who would ever promote such absurdity assumes you failed high school biology).

the data is there, it's just they set up their trials to measure antibody development within a certain interval as their measure of "success." in other words, the adverse events are not part of the trial parameters.

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– Lonegunman65 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

There are none! AND as a matter of fact, they don’t have a placebo control group as well!

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– test_pattern 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

they contaminated their placebo group. decided early data showed their vaccine was "so effective!" if would be immoral to withhold it from control group. so they injected their control participants. now there is no control. therefore, NO STUDY.

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– Lonegunman65 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yes! The placebo control is the most important part of a clinical study. AND if this study were a true scientific study, it should have been double blind meaning they shouldn’t have known who was getting placebo and who wasn’t. this is complete bullshit!

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– test_pattern 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

it means the way they set up study parameters are not comprehensive of generally recognized safety requirements. it also means, since even their own narrowly defined study has been abandoned before completion, there is no peer reviewed disinterested science that proves the product safe and effective.

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– krypt0 [S] 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

If they skipped animal testing then this is not by definition a full authorization.

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– noidolsleft 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

All we got was that organ distribution study in rats smuggled out of Japan.

They skipped animal testing.

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– krypt0 [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

If they skipped animal testing then this is not by definition a full authorization.

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– noidolsleft 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Yeah, they don't care. We're in some lawless territory here.

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– Taffy333 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

I read last year and even just a few months ago in several different places that they stopped the animal tests when all the animals died from a cykotine storm. Can't find the articles back so can't prove it. Everything now on search engine (not Google) says they didn't die, but what I read seemed to be from reputable sources. Have also heard it from people like Dr. Tenpenny.

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– krypt0 [S] 2 points 4 years ago +2 / -0

I remember that from last year and it was in reference to prior attempts at a coronavirus vaccine. That's why it was so alarming that they skipped animal testing this time around.

Emergency use was granted without animal testing, but that is not to say that since the EUA was granted that they did not conduct the animal tests.

"Everything now on search engine (not Google) says they didn't die,"

Are you seeing the results of animal tests on the covid 19 or SARS-CoV-2 vaccines? This would be different from what we saw last year.

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– muhqtardtho 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Ah I've been wondering about that since it gets reposted on here a bunch. I brought up them stopping animal trials due to them dying with a spectrum-y friend and he said they never did that for these gene therapies being pushed.

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– Oblakhan 1 point 4 years ago +1 / -0

Buried with all the dead animals.

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