Don't be going out there trying to do this shit unless you are not squared away and ready to experience true evil, those things are old af. Props for the guy trying but he let that thing infect him with negative thoughts and images in his mind. "Tearing babies apart, babies blood steaming from the ground" this is what they do. Never convers with the one running the show...only try to slip a message of hope to the brother sealed inside that thing. The first little cut is to break your peace in Jesus Christ. The focus of the situation should have ONLY been on Jesus, but you all heard where the snake led the conversation. They want you to think of their judgment they want you mad because when your thinking of them and what they do and what they deserve you lost your undivided attention on the Father and Jesus christ. Therefore the peace of the holy spirit will not be your stability. Once the peace is faded then they bring out he anger causing your to think and act in the flesh. Best thing would have been to tell him "do not worry brother, you do not have to come to Jesus, he is coming to you because he loves you and I love you, see you at home." But do not say it to the face say I it to the brother trapped inside that thing, look passed the eyes. Demons hate when you do that to them. Its like talking to someone over someone's shoulder because the person in front isn't even worth your time..and it's not, because that thing will be dealt with by the father..just speak to the brother stuck behind it and leave it be. Look a the sky and breath peace right infront of it and remain in silent peace. That thing hissing doesn't even exist. It's already destined for the void, what isn't eternal isn't real.
True. The Christian is only protected from the Host coming into them. They can’t cast it out.
You really do have to get to the person in there and convince them to appeal to the Lord of Hosts themselves. Easier said than done as they are enduring real trauma.
They Volunteered, so no Trauma involved....
Trying to turn them from their thing is almost impossible, and would take an actual Miracle, done in front of them, and even then would still be difficult.....
I would like to think I wouldn’t have to be shaken firm - I know there have been things that I may be hard to accept, too.
It took really spiritually acknowledging that there are 3 parts of us: rational, spiritual, and something we can’t pretend to define.
I can’t pretend to know it all - I do want the best for folks and now I really don’t want a world He is not a part of. I know that isn’t the case. Just the premise - it’s worse than lonely.
"Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell." Matthew 10:28
Men can destroy us, and our bodies. But only God the creator can destroy our souls, so He is the one we would be wise to fear. When he casts us into the lake at the end of time, I believe that it's more than a prison. From what I've read, it seems to be more like a garbage disposal, destroying that which is thrown in. I could be wrong though.
I think u/Unreasonable is basing the whole non-eternal thing on this verse, or another verse like it, perhaps. The void, hell, whatever you want to call it, is eternal, yes. However, I think there's more to it. It's a sort of annihilation, a permanent destruction, that could be viewed as non-eternal much like a piece of paper will not last the universe's life; The constituent atoms have been there since the beginning, and they will be there in the end, too. However, the piece of paper itself is not eternal.
I'm not an expert, this is just my interpretation. God bless!
Im a believer and supporter of Jesus Christ almighty but i have a huge amount of pain ive held in for over 20 yrs now and i WILL use their own tactics against them if they ever want to try me and touch me
I know what you mean. These feelings of rage and disdain build up as this war rages on. These people do such vile things. And their tactics are so juvenile and pathetic.
But this man, despite his actions and words and demeanor, is still a poor needy soul in need of water. Jesus calls us to love even our enemies, and this is because every human is a soul that needs to believe in the truth and Jesus to have life. Reaching a lost brother like him will not be possible if you engage with the demon on the demon's terms. It might feel satisfying to seethe and spit at them as they do to you. I truly understand that. Just pray that God will help you have peace in your heart so you can, in the moment, try to reach the poor brother in front of you, instead of trying to fight the powers and principalities in the flesh, where they have an advantage (being purely spirits). I hope this makes sense.
Please feel free to lambast me or ask any questions, I'd be happy to help, or hash it out. Peace and God bless.
Then you would already know that Jesus taught us to deliver/surrender ALL that pain and anger to the Father because the battle is his. Or that anything less is denying the Father his place and claiming self-faithfulness. Also any study, meditations, and use of esoteric bait is simply demon feigning. Don't fall for it, they are supernaturally experts at theatrics as well as deceit. Focusing on Jesus and his word is the only way to see this through. I know what they do when you have a beautiful life and you shine to bright, I know what they do to that life and everyone you knew in it. Give it to the Father and prepare to go home. Allow the Father to Make your spirit ready. It may get even harder, well most likely will get harder but that will just prepare us that much further for home. So be thankful and praise the Father in heaven for the miracle that is "Strength through suffering" and the majesty and balance you see in his natural world. I mean just look at a sunset and how the perfect balance from that to the ant is all connected and still running strong to this very day. So give it all to the Father, you will see everyone when we get back to the house and we will all be to happy to care about all this bs.
Thank you for this amazing insight, as I read it I realize you're right.
This helps see things in better perspective, and most importantly, is yet another part of the Christian worldview that gives me faith, and the ability to trust in the Lord, so that I can speak even with someone like this, and do His will, reaching the brother trapped inside.
Peace be with you brother, thanks again for your input.
Don't be going out there trying to do this shit unless you are not squared away and ready to experience true evil, those things are old af. Props for the guy trying but he let that thing infect him with negative thoughts and images in his mind. "Tearing babies apart, babies blood steaming from the ground" this is what they do. Never convers with the one running the show...only try to slip a message of hope to the brother sealed inside that thing. The first little cut is to break your peace in Jesus Christ. The focus of the situation should have ONLY been on Jesus, but you all heard where the snake led the conversation. They want you to think of their judgment they want you mad because when your thinking of them and what they do and what they deserve you lost your undivided attention on the Father and Jesus christ. Therefore the peace of the holy spirit will not be your stability. Once the peace is faded then they bring out he anger causing your to think and act in the flesh. Best thing would have been to tell him "do not worry brother, you do not have to come to Jesus, he is coming to you because he loves you and I love you, see you at home." But do not say it to the face say I it to the brother trapped inside that thing, look passed the eyes. Demons hate when you do that to them. Its like talking to someone over someone's shoulder because the person in front isn't even worth your time..and it's not, because that thing will be dealt with by the father..just speak to the brother stuck behind it and leave it be. Look a the sky and breath peace right infront of it and remain in silent peace. That thing hissing doesn't even exist. It's already destined for the void, what isn't eternal isn't real.
That spirit loves to go “nananana boo boo!” To the Christian who is speaking to the host.
True. The Christian is only protected from the Host coming into them. They can’t cast it out.
You really do have to get to the person in there and convince them to appeal to the Lord of Hosts themselves. Easier said than done as they are enduring real trauma.
They Volunteered, so no Trauma involved.... Trying to turn them from their thing is almost impossible, and would take an actual Miracle, done in front of them, and even then would still be difficult.....
I hear you.
I would like to think I wouldn’t have to be shaken firm - I know there have been things that I may be hard to accept, too.
It took really spiritually acknowledging that there are 3 parts of us: rational, spiritual, and something we can’t pretend to define.
I can’t pretend to know it all - I do want the best for folks and now I really don’t want a world He is not a part of. I know that isn’t the case. Just the premise - it’s worse than lonely.
They are indeed eternal, which is why they will be cast into outer darkness forever. They will not be “killed” just restrained for all of eternity.
"Do not be afraid of those who kill the body but cannot kill the soul. Rather, be afraid of the One who can destroy both soul and body in hell." Matthew 10:28
Men can destroy us, and our bodies. But only God the creator can destroy our souls, so He is the one we would be wise to fear. When he casts us into the lake at the end of time, I believe that it's more than a prison. From what I've read, it seems to be more like a garbage disposal, destroying that which is thrown in. I could be wrong though.
I think u/Unreasonable is basing the whole non-eternal thing on this verse, or another verse like it, perhaps. The void, hell, whatever you want to call it, is eternal, yes. However, I think there's more to it. It's a sort of annihilation, a permanent destruction, that could be viewed as non-eternal much like a piece of paper will not last the universe's life; The constituent atoms have been there since the beginning, and they will be there in the end, too. However, the piece of paper itself is not eternal.
I'm not an expert, this is just my interpretation. God bless!
Im a believer and supporter of Jesus Christ almighty but i have a huge amount of pain ive held in for over 20 yrs now and i WILL use their own tactics against them if they ever want to try me and touch me
I know what you mean. These feelings of rage and disdain build up as this war rages on. These people do such vile things. And their tactics are so juvenile and pathetic.
But this man, despite his actions and words and demeanor, is still a poor needy soul in need of water. Jesus calls us to love even our enemies, and this is because every human is a soul that needs to believe in the truth and Jesus to have life. Reaching a lost brother like him will not be possible if you engage with the demon on the demon's terms. It might feel satisfying to seethe and spit at them as they do to you. I truly understand that. Just pray that God will help you have peace in your heart so you can, in the moment, try to reach the poor brother in front of you, instead of trying to fight the powers and principalities in the flesh, where they have an advantage (being purely spirits). I hope this makes sense.
Please feel free to lambast me or ask any questions, I'd be happy to help, or hash it out. Peace and God bless.
Then you would already know that Jesus taught us to deliver/surrender ALL that pain and anger to the Father because the battle is his. Or that anything less is denying the Father his place and claiming self-faithfulness. Also any study, meditations, and use of esoteric bait is simply demon feigning. Don't fall for it, they are supernaturally experts at theatrics as well as deceit. Focusing on Jesus and his word is the only way to see this through. I know what they do when you have a beautiful life and you shine to bright, I know what they do to that life and everyone you knew in it. Give it to the Father and prepare to go home. Allow the Father to Make your spirit ready. It may get even harder, well most likely will get harder but that will just prepare us that much further for home. So be thankful and praise the Father in heaven for the miracle that is "Strength through suffering" and the majesty and balance you see in his natural world. I mean just look at a sunset and how the perfect balance from that to the ant is all connected and still running strong to this very day. So give it all to the Father, you will see everyone when we get back to the house and we will all be to happy to care about all this bs.
Thank you for this amazing insight, as I read it I realize you're right.
This helps see things in better perspective, and most importantly, is yet another part of the Christian worldview that gives me faith, and the ability to trust in the Lord, so that I can speak even with someone like this, and do His will, reaching the brother trapped inside.
Peace be with you brother, thanks again for your input.