Serious responses only please. I understand private companies can mandate the vax and force you to get it or be threatened with being fired.. so it’s still your “choice”
But my question is.. If a company follows the mandate and coerces thier employees to get the jab, Wouldn’t it be a HIPAA violation and Amendment violation for them to disclose this information to anyone including the GOVERNMENT?! How is that not a civil right violation?
because they want to see it. Simple as that. It is their new policy and requirement for employment. If you do not provide them with what they want, they can fire you and you will not be receiving unemployment benefits. Assuming you are residing in the state with at will employment it can happen any moment.
The only thing is - vax injured people due to employer's mandate now will be able to sue employer. However, the govt and the manufacturer already has immunity against lawsuits. I would not be surprised if employers get it soon too by passing state laws or federal sweep. Thus, no-one responsible for the damages done. Not to mention, when you get a vaccine, you sign a paper that you are doing it at your own volition. So.. suing employer is not 100% given but can be only tried at this point. Not to mention that vax injury is almost impossible to prove and Medical Board just announced that those docs that will be speaking against narrative will be stripped off their licenses. Its really, really, really far gone. I've been watching this for 15 years. Some for decades. None of this is new to many of us. We are really far into it now.
as they state it now - to protect others. In CA for instance by the law it is already established that greater good of public health trumps your personal individual health. CA is full-blown China already. Coming into the city near you shortly.
can i sue based off their mandate or would I need them to sign a liability form of some sort?
I heard some Russians have tried this but only in bulk as it turned more effective:
Why wouldn't you be able to receive unemployment benefits if you're fired? The company would have a opportunity to contest the unemployment but all you need to state is this wasn't policy when you were hired and you should beat that I believe.
workplace changes for different reasons, policies change. If you have not followed employers policies or refuse to follow them, its a legit ground for firing employee regardless whether it was when they started or not and unemployment is not paid because it is your fault you did not follow policies. The only question is whether the policy is legal. But that is for lawsuit - preferably class lawsuit. On the other hand, as I have mentioned before, it looks like companies do not openly fire people for vaxx policy and putting up bogus reasons or, worse yet, putting you on unpaid indefinite leave, so you either leave first yourself or don't have grounds to sue.
Having been an employer with 30+ full and part-time employees, I am familiar with how this will play out for those who refuse to toe the employer's line: Insubordination. If you refuse a company-required condition of employment you will be asked to resign, failing that, you will be terminated for cause (insubordination). A termination for insubordination makes you INELIGIBLE for unemployment benefits in many states. In the past, I have terminated employees for insubordination and prevailed in their unemployment hearings (they actually did bad things against company directive or policy). Additionally, in "At Will" states, the employee has very, very few protections. Simply stated you are employed at the will of the employer and can be terminated for any reason or no reason at all as long as the reason for termination is not due to discrimination (race, creed, gender).
im not on reddit. Im HR. At will employment does not have to be in contract if your state law provides it. Wrongful termination will be only wrongful if it actually is wrongful. So far from what I know, none of the employers have even been firing employees because they are not vaccinated on paper.. They have been firing them for "other reasons" such as reorganization, cutting down, etc under pretense, - actually any reason will do if you are in the state of at will employment.
yes, I'm sure lawsuits will follow.