I am reposting this comment from a different thread, so while the quotes are not accurate, the sentiment is the same and my comments apply.
The Speaker is Steve Kirsch, and he isn't representing the FDA here.
Sadly this comment reflects the attitude that facts and truth is based on the authority of the people who are saying it.
You don't need to represent FDA to be speaking the truth. All the information shared here by these folks are true and based on actual statistics that cannot be disproven by anyone.
The fact that they are being allowed to share this info in an official, if only as an advisory, setting should be applauded since this makes it easy to get normies to watch it.
This isn't the smoking gun you think it is,
I don't know what your definition of smoking gun is, but there has been smoking guns and fires in the backyards all through out the pandemic. The fact that the main stream hides the smoking gun does not mean it does not exist.
our government isn't acknowledging his statistics just by letting him speak here.
Again, you are missing the point. Its not whether the government is acknowledging his statistics or not. Its the opportunity to allow normies to be exposed to the truth. What they do with it is up to them. They might ask "Did someone disprove these facts?" or they might ask "Did this session affect the way FDA voted?"
For the first question - the answer would be "No".
For the second question - the answer would be "FDA denied EUA for boosters for general population, you draw whatever conclusion you like to draw".
I’m not missing any point. This presentation by Kirsch is being shared as if he was a member of the FDA and not a participant in the public forum. I’m not challenging his data/presentation, just clarifying his role. If we compare this to the election fraud, theres a difference between Mike Lindell proving fraud at a symposium vs an employee from Maricopa County presenting the same the same data. You don’t need to get defensive, we’re on the same side here.
And I will add to this. It is not just Steve who brought up good info to the table. Pretty much most other presenters did the same as well. There were a couple who were clearly Pharma-Buddies, but the rest all had some important point to make against the boosters but sometimes even the vaccines in general.
Perhaps its worth going back and making a post with all the takeaways from all those presenters
exactly. take it to public opinion at this point. we will all scream why the fuck are you ignoring statistics that say the vax kills more people than it saves!
I assume everyone knows this. The issue is how can the FDA listen to this presentation, listen to the damning statistics he provided, and still not put a halt to all vaccines immediately? It must have had at least some effect, as the vast majority ended up voting NO to the booster for all. But they can't claim they didn't know the vax is killing more than it's saving as he provided the evidence for it and the whole thing was recorded for all of us to see. If the FDA really cared about health, that should have been a huge OH SHIT moment for them, knowing they pushed the approval through without all of the usual safety measures.
I'm glad someone else got here before I did, because when I point stuff like this out it just tends to get me accusations of believing the lies of the MSM.
It's perfectly fine to tell someone you want them to watch Steven Kirsch call into the FDA meeting and listen to his message to them because you believe him.
It's not accurate to claim that the FDA in any way endorsed this position. Kirsch is not part of the FDA. He was telling them he protested the position they took.
I've already had to wade through a deluge of headlines elsewhere of people who either didn't watch this speech or who did and are misrepresenting it claim that the FDA admitted the vaccine is killing people 5:1, and it simply isn't accurate to make a claim that the FDA admitted that. Someone protesting against the FDA made that claim.
A lot of people here like to pat themselves on the backs for being "critical thinkers," but they just post clickbait or upvote threads without first understanding them or even reading past the title.
Question, do r/qultHQ think we are crazy, misinformed, uneducated, or just dumb? Are you aware that there is a difference between a Qpost and an anon and that just because an anon says something doesn't mean others belive it. I am not sure if Q is some big player, but I do belive that this world if run by corrupt and evil people.
I don't really speak for the sub. I just do some modding for them when I'm over there. I can only speak for myself.
I agree that the world has some very corrupt, evil, and powerful people in it. That's not at all challenging to believe. Nor is it even difficult to believe some of those people are/could be pedophiles. This isn't a challenging position to hold, and I think a lot of liberals would agree.
If Q was SOLELY about being anti-pedophile or anti-corruption, you'd have a much more diverse group of members around here.
But it's not that. From the outside, Q honestly just feels like an attempt to create a narrative in which Donald Trump can be this strategic 5D-chess playing genius, but never actually demonstrate any clear evidence that he IS one. Instead, he plays optics, "weak when you are strong" type stuff, while a faceless entity who this board curiously refuses to ever identify is the actual brains behind the operation. And no, you haven't lost the election, it just LOOKS that way, because the operation being used to save the world is so immensely complex and secret that only the smartest of us can actually see what's really happening.
If I were going to "speak for the sub", I would imagine that would be the message. That Q seems like an extremely complicated version of "Bernie can still win" memes. People who refuse to believe that Donald Trump was capable of being as disliked as he would need to be to legitimately lose the election to someone as boring as Joe Biden and to present the kind of optics that plagued him for his entire Presidency.
It can't be the result of Trump's promises and boasts being presented as a far more valuable currency than he had the resources to back up. It must be something far more subtle and complicated.
I personally don't think most of you are significantly divergent from the average population in intelligence. I can't speak to your education levels because I don't know. I also don't think you're necessarily crazy. I think the psychology of what it takes to believe in something like Q is enormously more complicated than almost anyone here or on the outside actually believes, and that's what I'm interested in understanding.
Interesting article about FDA officials leaving and why, including link to article in lancet regarding boosters. It is not the full evidence and documentation we want, but it is an admission that the boosters do more harm than good
Steve is an advocate for us. The fda will never say what he said. They said in the video that they want the government to give the pharma companies, full control to basically dismantle and deplatform “antivaxxers” he came in right after and dropped a truth bomb.
I am reposting this comment from a different thread, so while the quotes are not accurate, the sentiment is the same and my comments apply.
Sadly this comment reflects the attitude that facts and truth is based on the authority of the people who are saying it.
You don't need to represent FDA to be speaking the truth. All the information shared here by these folks are true and based on actual statistics that cannot be disproven by anyone.
The fact that they are being allowed to share this info in an official, if only as an advisory, setting should be applauded since this makes it easy to get normies to watch it.
I don't know what your definition of smoking gun is, but there has been smoking guns and fires in the backyards all through out the pandemic. The fact that the main stream hides the smoking gun does not mean it does not exist.
Again, you are missing the point. Its not whether the government is acknowledging his statistics or not. Its the opportunity to allow normies to be exposed to the truth. What they do with it is up to them. They might ask "Did someone disprove these facts?" or they might ask "Did this session affect the way FDA voted?"
For the first question - the answer would be "No".
For the second question - the answer would be "FDA denied EUA for boosters for general population, you draw whatever conclusion you like to draw".
I’m not missing any point. This presentation by Kirsch is being shared as if he was a member of the FDA and not a participant in the public forum. I’m not challenging his data/presentation, just clarifying his role. If we compare this to the election fraud, theres a difference between Mike Lindell proving fraud at a symposium vs an employee from Maricopa County presenting the same the same data. You don’t need to get defensive, we’re on the same side here.
And I will add to this. It is not just Steve who brought up good info to the table. Pretty much most other presenters did the same as well. There were a couple who were clearly Pharma-Buddies, but the rest all had some important point to make against the boosters but sometimes even the vaccines in general.
Perhaps its worth going back and making a post with all the takeaways from all those presenters
His site: https://www.skirsch.io/
Notice ivermectin in his protocols. Good guy methinks.
The FDA allowed him to speak, about data, and he had receipts. I don't care if it's fucking santa clause, I'm blasting this everywhere.
exactly. take it to public opinion at this point. we will all scream why the fuck are you ignoring statistics that say the vax kills more people than it saves!
I assume everyone knows this. The issue is how can the FDA listen to this presentation, listen to the damning statistics he provided, and still not put a halt to all vaccines immediately? It must have had at least some effect, as the vast majority ended up voting NO to the booster for all. But they can't claim they didn't know the vax is killing more than it's saving as he provided the evidence for it and the whole thing was recorded for all of us to see. If the FDA really cared about health, that should have been a huge OH SHIT moment for them, knowing they pushed the approval through without all of the usual safety measures.
I'm glad someone else got here before I did, because when I point stuff like this out it just tends to get me accusations of believing the lies of the MSM.
It's perfectly fine to tell someone you want them to watch Steven Kirsch call into the FDA meeting and listen to his message to them because you believe him.
It's not accurate to claim that the FDA in any way endorsed this position. Kirsch is not part of the FDA. He was telling them he protested the position they took.
I've already had to wade through a deluge of headlines elsewhere of people who either didn't watch this speech or who did and are misrepresenting it claim that the FDA admitted the vaccine is killing people 5:1, and it simply isn't accurate to make a claim that the FDA admitted that. Someone protesting against the FDA made that claim.
Thank you! 🙏
A lot of people here like to pat themselves on the backs for being "critical thinkers," but they just post clickbait or upvote threads without first understanding them or even reading past the title.
Question, do r/qultHQ think we are crazy, misinformed, uneducated, or just dumb? Are you aware that there is a difference between a Qpost and an anon and that just because an anon says something doesn't mean others belive it. I am not sure if Q is some big player, but I do belive that this world if run by corrupt and evil people.
I don't really speak for the sub. I just do some modding for them when I'm over there. I can only speak for myself.
I agree that the world has some very corrupt, evil, and powerful people in it. That's not at all challenging to believe. Nor is it even difficult to believe some of those people are/could be pedophiles. This isn't a challenging position to hold, and I think a lot of liberals would agree.
If Q was SOLELY about being anti-pedophile or anti-corruption, you'd have a much more diverse group of members around here.
But it's not that. From the outside, Q honestly just feels like an attempt to create a narrative in which Donald Trump can be this strategic 5D-chess playing genius, but never actually demonstrate any clear evidence that he IS one. Instead, he plays optics, "weak when you are strong" type stuff, while a faceless entity who this board curiously refuses to ever identify is the actual brains behind the operation. And no, you haven't lost the election, it just LOOKS that way, because the operation being used to save the world is so immensely complex and secret that only the smartest of us can actually see what's really happening.
If I were going to "speak for the sub", I would imagine that would be the message. That Q seems like an extremely complicated version of "Bernie can still win" memes. People who refuse to believe that Donald Trump was capable of being as disliked as he would need to be to legitimately lose the election to someone as boring as Joe Biden and to present the kind of optics that plagued him for his entire Presidency.
It can't be the result of Trump's promises and boasts being presented as a far more valuable currency than he had the resources to back up. It must be something far more subtle and complicated.
I personally don't think most of you are significantly divergent from the average population in intelligence. I can't speak to your education levels because I don't know. I also don't think you're necessarily crazy. I think the psychology of what it takes to believe in something like Q is enormously more complicated than almost anyone here or on the outside actually believes, and that's what I'm interested in understanding.
Thanks for your input. If you'd like I can give you my perspective and why I am here, and my personal take on Q. Just LMK.
https://www.infowars.com/posts/covid-vaccine-earthquake-top-fda-scientists-write-letter-to-lancet-warning-against-faucis-booster-shots/
Interesting article about FDA officials leaving and why, including link to article in lancet regarding boosters. It is not the full evidence and documentation we want, but it is an admission that the boosters do more harm than good
Steve is an advocate for us. The fda will never say what he said. They said in the video that they want the government to give the pharma companies, full control to basically dismantle and deplatform “antivaxxers” he came in right after and dropped a truth bomb.
His site: https://www.skirsch.io/
Notice ivermectin in his protocols.
It’s the studies he refers to that should be the take away here.....
WWG1WGA
This!
Link to entire 8hrs meeting: https://youtu.be/WFph7-6t34M
Link to section on deaths vs lives saved:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bQevYc2jX7Y&t=15166s
https://citizenfreepress.com/breaking/bombshell-testimony-from-doctors-at-fda-vaccine-booster-hearing/