Trump did nothing to children he is and always was a decent man. By the way Miss USA were not underage. Did he look at women sure he did same as any guy. And that bull shit about grabbing someones cunt so what. I am a women and every guy I have ever known has talked like that when they were younger probably still do today but only when its guys only. That is not a fucking crime. You need to do some soul searching buddy. Trump was not religious when he took office but ended up starting with a prayer everyday. That tells me Trump has come to the realization that God does exist and is living his life the way he should. Trump has always cared about people.
It's not "so what". We can still hold leaders to a higher standard and yes he did apologize, however his remarks are a symptom of that culture one we should be aware of.
You don't have proof that he's completely clean. No one does. To say so is delusional. I am not claiming he did and I still give him the benefit of the doubt. That does not negate the things he said.
You are also incorrect on your assumptions about Miss Teen USA which is what he was referring to on the Howard Stern show. Those girls are under age.
We need to end this rose tinted love affair with politicians. They are broken people same as you or me yet we vote for them because they claim to embody our values yet their actions speak otherwise. I voted for Trump because of the work he did in his first four years. Take that away and he's just another Billionaire who should never be trusted. Hell he should never be trusted regardless. No one should be especially politicians.
Yet another shit stirring post from you. How many posts are you going to create telling people what they should and shouldn’t do?
Hero worship? Have you been here for the countless threads about Trump’s stance and mention of vaccines in his speech? Many questioned his reasoning for that. This isn’t the Donald and no one is blindly praising Trump. The man gets flak for things that don’t line up.
Also…where the fuck is this “Trump might be a bad person” shit coming from? Any sources besides the media (which we know is corrupt) saying stupid shit or exaggerating? You cite there is a possibility he did inappropriate things? Ok? There’s a possibility you may be a talking dog, but I’d require way more proof than just someone telling me. Especially if that someone lies all the time.
No one is complacent. I think you just need things to happen right away, right now. You offer nothing, though. “Gain some outside perspective/you’ve all gotten complacent”. So, you bring “Trump may be a baddie” to the table, with weaksauce reasoning. A notsofresh yet spicy take that’s been done to death.
No, we are watching and listening. We are discussing and analyzing. I’m sorry you aren’t getting the Endgame coalition to assemble and charge the hill. People are doing what they can. I’ve never been more involved in my local politics and what’s going on around me. Stop projecting inaction and ineptitude on people. Your “tough love” just comes across as inarticulate and angry.
I'm citing the words he said out of his mouth. This post is exactly for people like you who disregard the possibilty because it conflicts with your confirmation bias.
Trump was a morally bankrupt man for many years. This is an easily searchable fact. While you can forgive the sin, to forget it is learn nothing. Personally I hold Jefferson in high regard, but that doesn't mean I excuse him for owning slaves or water down the fact that when it came to "All Men Are Created Equal" Jefferson failed to do more. Does that negate the good he did and make ideas wrong? No. But that doesn't excuse his mistakes.
Trump can't go back and unrecord the things he said nor can he unfuck Stormy Daniels. These are simple facts that cannot be changed or altered. Instead of brushing them off of watering them down as you just did, we need to embrace and accept them. There is no argument or defense that needs to be made with Trump's failures and agreeing with people calling him out on it doesn't magically make us anti-Trump communists. If anything it helps unite us as a country.
A lot of liberals close themselves off to discussion because people excuse Trump's past behavior. There is nothing that should ever be excused and when we accept that we can better persuade people to MAGA when they start to realize we don't hold Trump above ourselves.
And yes, I'm going to stir the pot as long as truth is distorted and people make excuses. If we are truly seeking enlightenment, that means accepting reality which means accepting the reality that Trump is broken like the rest of us and possibly moreso.
As to your false claim of contributing nothing, one I contribute ideas and perspectives which we freely exchange in the effort to keep discussion free and open. Two, I do also contribute useful things where people can get involved:
So, you basically are saying we should ignore the good Trump has done because of the negatives in the past? That nothing he has done more recently matters because he fucked up in the past? Cool.
Or, are you saying we should regard Trump as a man and not above us? Uh. Yeah, I’ve been doing that. To paint the entire site here as biased is ridiculous though, especially linking to a low-effort meme thread. Find some Trump vaccine threads.
Could it also be that, like the Donald, maybe some people love being hyperbolic in the love for Trump because it pisses the other side off? All I know is, you’re free to feel that way, but I’ve gone through enough threads to see posters engage in discussions about Trump that weren’t always rosy.
Bringing up liberals being closed off to discussion works both ways. Can’t talk about Pelosi insider trading, or Joe sniffing kids. You’re pondering olive branch conversations, and that tree burned up a while ago.
Trump fucked Stormy Daniels? Ok. He shouldn’t have done that. Does that make me think less of him? Thinking of him as a husband, I guess. Does it affect my thoughts on his political moves? Not really. Sorry. Love the sinner, hate the sin. I have a friend who cheated on her husband. I’ll never ask her for relationship advice, but she can code like a motherfucker. Am I supposed to think her work is subpar because she fucked someone else?
I guess where some people come to an impasse is: how long do we punish someone for an action, and does one action negate everything else done? Also, each person’s moral compass comes into play. Where I see you are having a hard time is the level of severity you feel is not being placed upon Trump’s actions.
So, feel free to constantly bring up all the bad I suppose. I don’t see the point in it. I’ll never defend Trump as a husband, but do I let that affect my view of him as working to the betterment of America? Not as much as you’d like it to, I guess.
Hey, as for you linking to take action, good for you. Happy to walk that back. But your thoughts and discussion points just seem to be telling this board they are lazy and wrong. Which again, I think is unhelpful.
Lots of people used to be Dems. And the ones who no longer consider themselves dems nearly all say it is because the democratic party left THEM. Go back and look at old utube interviews with Trump - 70's,80's,90's - he has always been about fairness and against corruption. If you dont like Trump - that is fine-you have that right but Trump bashing is not helpful. Go ahead and hoard your thanks like it is a national treasure - hold on to it with all your might - anyone who doesnt even thank God until he sees a victory can keep their thanks.
I 100% agree with you. Part of being a patriot, and being a liberty-minded free thinker, is to end hero worship. I love Donald Trump but he is NOT perfect and has made many mistakes. For example, he has admitted to not being the best husband at times and he also is talking about 2022 and telling us to get vaccinated etc.
That's ok. We can admire him and support him while recognizing he is flawed. The cause should always be bigger than any one man. If Trump went against the plan, or was revealed to not be helping, I'd dump my support in a second.
Exactly my point entirely. We should not be combatting or excusing Trump's infidelity, but rather embracing and accepting he is flawed and that we don't condone his past. It goes a long way to kill the "qult" narrative.
Unfortunately as you can see by responses, most aren't ready to make that step.
Well I had time to think about this and most of what you say is garbage...
But yeah you are right on one thing. Trump is one man that's true but that one man back in 2016, he has awaken people by the thousands! And I myself am one of them!
Trump did nothing to children he is and always was a decent man. By the way Miss USA were not underage. Did he look at women sure he did same as any guy. And that bull shit about grabbing someones cunt so what. I am a women and every guy I have ever known has talked like that when they were younger probably still do today but only when its guys only. That is not a fucking crime. You need to do some soul searching buddy. Trump was not religious when he took office but ended up starting with a prayer everyday. That tells me Trump has come to the realization that God does exist and is living his life the way he should. Trump has always cared about people.
It's not "so what". We can still hold leaders to a higher standard and yes he did apologize, however his remarks are a symptom of that culture one we should be aware of.
You don't have proof that he's completely clean. No one does. To say so is delusional. I am not claiming he did and I still give him the benefit of the doubt. That does not negate the things he said.
You are also incorrect on your assumptions about Miss Teen USA which is what he was referring to on the Howard Stern show. Those girls are under age.
We need to end this rose tinted love affair with politicians. They are broken people same as you or me yet we vote for them because they claim to embody our values yet their actions speak otherwise. I voted for Trump because of the work he did in his first four years. Take that away and he's just another Billionaire who should never be trusted. Hell he should never be trusted regardless. No one should be especially politicians.
Well said
Yet another shit stirring post from you. How many posts are you going to create telling people what they should and shouldn’t do?
Hero worship? Have you been here for the countless threads about Trump’s stance and mention of vaccines in his speech? Many questioned his reasoning for that. This isn’t the Donald and no one is blindly praising Trump. The man gets flak for things that don’t line up.
Also…where the fuck is this “Trump might be a bad person” shit coming from? Any sources besides the media (which we know is corrupt) saying stupid shit or exaggerating? You cite there is a possibility he did inappropriate things? Ok? There’s a possibility you may be a talking dog, but I’d require way more proof than just someone telling me. Especially if that someone lies all the time.
No one is complacent. I think you just need things to happen right away, right now. You offer nothing, though. “Gain some outside perspective/you’ve all gotten complacent”. So, you bring “Trump may be a baddie” to the table, with weaksauce reasoning. A notsofresh yet spicy take that’s been done to death.
No, we are watching and listening. We are discussing and analyzing. I’m sorry you aren’t getting the Endgame coalition to assemble and charge the hill. People are doing what they can. I’ve never been more involved in my local politics and what’s going on around me. Stop projecting inaction and ineptitude on people. Your “tough love” just comes across as inarticulate and angry.
Be intellectually dishonest.
Oh no one is blind faith hero worshiping?
https://greatawakening.win/p/13zN6HowLu/q-says/
I'm citing the words he said out of his mouth. This post is exactly for people like you who disregard the possibilty because it conflicts with your confirmation bias.
Trump was a morally bankrupt man for many years. This is an easily searchable fact. While you can forgive the sin, to forget it is learn nothing. Personally I hold Jefferson in high regard, but that doesn't mean I excuse him for owning slaves or water down the fact that when it came to "All Men Are Created Equal" Jefferson failed to do more. Does that negate the good he did and make ideas wrong? No. But that doesn't excuse his mistakes.
Trump can't go back and unrecord the things he said nor can he unfuck Stormy Daniels. These are simple facts that cannot be changed or altered. Instead of brushing them off of watering them down as you just did, we need to embrace and accept them. There is no argument or defense that needs to be made with Trump's failures and agreeing with people calling him out on it doesn't magically make us anti-Trump communists. If anything it helps unite us as a country.
A lot of liberals close themselves off to discussion because people excuse Trump's past behavior. There is nothing that should ever be excused and when we accept that we can better persuade people to MAGA when they start to realize we don't hold Trump above ourselves.
And yes, I'm going to stir the pot as long as truth is distorted and people make excuses. If we are truly seeking enlightenment, that means accepting reality which means accepting the reality that Trump is broken like the rest of us and possibly moreso.
As to your false claim of contributing nothing, one I contribute ideas and perspectives which we freely exchange in the effort to keep discussion free and open. Two, I do also contribute useful things where people can get involved:
https://greatawakening.win/p/13zNFac7VZ/tired-of-feeling-like-nothing-is/c/
If you wanna keep strawmanning, go right ahead. I'll simply stop responding.
So, you basically are saying we should ignore the good Trump has done because of the negatives in the past? That nothing he has done more recently matters because he fucked up in the past? Cool.
Or, are you saying we should regard Trump as a man and not above us? Uh. Yeah, I’ve been doing that. To paint the entire site here as biased is ridiculous though, especially linking to a low-effort meme thread. Find some Trump vaccine threads.
Could it also be that, like the Donald, maybe some people love being hyperbolic in the love for Trump because it pisses the other side off? All I know is, you’re free to feel that way, but I’ve gone through enough threads to see posters engage in discussions about Trump that weren’t always rosy.
Bringing up liberals being closed off to discussion works both ways. Can’t talk about Pelosi insider trading, or Joe sniffing kids. You’re pondering olive branch conversations, and that tree burned up a while ago.
Trump fucked Stormy Daniels? Ok. He shouldn’t have done that. Does that make me think less of him? Thinking of him as a husband, I guess. Does it affect my thoughts on his political moves? Not really. Sorry. Love the sinner, hate the sin. I have a friend who cheated on her husband. I’ll never ask her for relationship advice, but she can code like a motherfucker. Am I supposed to think her work is subpar because she fucked someone else?
I guess where some people come to an impasse is: how long do we punish someone for an action, and does one action negate everything else done? Also, each person’s moral compass comes into play. Where I see you are having a hard time is the level of severity you feel is not being placed upon Trump’s actions.
So, feel free to constantly bring up all the bad I suppose. I don’t see the point in it. I’ll never defend Trump as a husband, but do I let that affect my view of him as working to the betterment of America? Not as much as you’d like it to, I guess.
Hey, as for you linking to take action, good for you. Happy to walk that back. But your thoughts and discussion points just seem to be telling this board they are lazy and wrong. Which again, I think is unhelpful.
Lots of people used to be Dems. And the ones who no longer consider themselves dems nearly all say it is because the democratic party left THEM. Go back and look at old utube interviews with Trump - 70's,80's,90's - he has always been about fairness and against corruption. If you dont like Trump - that is fine-you have that right but Trump bashing is not helpful. Go ahead and hoard your thanks like it is a national treasure - hold on to it with all your might - anyone who doesnt even thank God until he sees a victory can keep their thanks.
Where did I Trump bash?
I 100% agree with you. Part of being a patriot, and being a liberty-minded free thinker, is to end hero worship. I love Donald Trump but he is NOT perfect and has made many mistakes. For example, he has admitted to not being the best husband at times and he also is talking about 2022 and telling us to get vaccinated etc.
That's ok. We can admire him and support him while recognizing he is flawed. The cause should always be bigger than any one man. If Trump went against the plan, or was revealed to not be helping, I'd dump my support in a second.
Exactly my point entirely. We should not be combatting or excusing Trump's infidelity, but rather embracing and accepting he is flawed and that we don't condone his past. It goes a long way to kill the "qult" narrative.
Unfortunately as you can see by responses, most aren't ready to make that step.
Didn't see one about give thanks for pre-mature victory
Well I had time to think about this and most of what you say is garbage...
But yeah you are right on one thing. Trump is one man that's true but that one man back in 2016, he has awaken people by the thousands! And I myself am one of them!
President Trump is not alone in this FIGHT
Being grateful for what has already happened is perfectly fine.
There is a reason you don't pay the contractor before the house is built.