Ironically, I had a similar situation, only from the right. I'm a staunch MAGA America First person now. However, I used to think I had to choose a side, R or D. At first blush I thought Trump stood no chance in hell. Too rough around the edges and insulting, blah, blah, blah. As he started taking out one R after another, winnowing down 17 other candidates, I was like holy shit, this dude is the boss! I went from hating his persona to absolutely loving it.
About that time, someone shared the George Carlin video, "The Big Club" with me. That shit woke me up in a heartbeat. I realized that the two party system was a complete lie. It's one of those things where once you see it, you can't un-see it. Its a permanent understanding.
Then the 2016 RNC convention came up. And, guess who wasn't there? No former Republican presidents or Republican presidential nominees, except for Bob Dole. That means, no Bushes, no Romney, no McCain, none of them. Even John Kasich, the current Republican governor of OH at the time (the convention was held in Cleveland, OH) wasn't there.
I was like holy shit! The Big Club is definitely real. The R's are trying to sink the People's choice for Republican nominee for president.
It confirmed for me that we are run by a one party system with the illusion of choice. Even if we had two legitimate parties, we still wouldn't get to choose our candidate, the parties choose their candidate and only then we get to vote. See your Bernie experience above. The party chose Hillary, even though the people wanted Bernie.
When I voted for Trump in 2016 I voted for the biggest bull in the china shop the world has ever seen. Did we ever get that. He shattered the illusion of the two party system once and for all. Thanks to 2020 we now see how corrupt our elections are. How corrupt our media is. How corrupt our big businesses are. And how corrupt big tech is.
The curtain has been pulled back once and for all.
To save our country both Democrats and RINOs must be destroyed.
Haha, man I am exactly like you. I was so devastated when that Bitch cheated Bernie. I was more interested in the candidates than the political process, so the transition to Trump was easy for me.
Isn't it beautiful how a good solid redpill moment is like a domino effect? Afterwards, everything else you observe or remember starts to piece together until BOOM you are on the other side of the river wondering why your undies are soaking wet but your pants are dry...
I had a similar trajectory. I was a Bernie true believer, but in my defense he had some ok talking points on NAFTA and TPP. It turns out he was full of shit but I was with some buddies after watching them cheat Bernie in broad daylight and we said, "Maybe we should check Trump out. That seems to be where the real movement is happening."
I had a short stint working for an Establishment Dem campaign after all of that. I actually used the phrase "Social Justice" in my interview. I still cringe.
It took about a month or two for me to see just how nasty they were. How they talked about their voters. How brazen they were with lying about people. I watched them sling some shit at a former military person knowing damn well it was bullshit, demeaning his service. Basically calling him a coward. It was horrible.
I watched them tell pensioners that the fund was broke, expect to lose your benefits, and Obama said it wasn't politically expedient to push a bail out. Their entire attitude was "Well yeah, we are fucking you over, but what are you gonna do, vote for Trump?"
It turns out that is exactly what they did. Trumps pitch was, "What do you have to lose?"
Trump delivered on all the promises they kept making year after year with no intent of coming through. I don't regret my time in Bernie land because I got to see the country in a way most people don't campaigning across 10 states and most importantly, because even though she cheated we put a dent in the Side of Beef's momentum and I will never feel bad about that.
I saw enough being on Reddit for years to feel this way without ever being one haha
What was your red pill moment, rooftoptendie?
I'm curious what got you out of a 20 year hell.
Thanks for sharing!
Ironically, I had a similar situation, only from the right. I'm a staunch MAGA America First person now. However, I used to think I had to choose a side, R or D. At first blush I thought Trump stood no chance in hell. Too rough around the edges and insulting, blah, blah, blah. As he started taking out one R after another, winnowing down 17 other candidates, I was like holy shit, this dude is the boss! I went from hating his persona to absolutely loving it.
About that time, someone shared the George Carlin video, "The Big Club" with me. That shit woke me up in a heartbeat. I realized that the two party system was a complete lie. It's one of those things where once you see it, you can't un-see it. Its a permanent understanding.
Then the 2016 RNC convention came up. And, guess who wasn't there? No former Republican presidents or Republican presidential nominees, except for Bob Dole. That means, no Bushes, no Romney, no McCain, none of them. Even John Kasich, the current Republican governor of OH at the time (the convention was held in Cleveland, OH) wasn't there.
I was like holy shit! The Big Club is definitely real. The R's are trying to sink the People's choice for Republican nominee for president.
It confirmed for me that we are run by a one party system with the illusion of choice. Even if we had two legitimate parties, we still wouldn't get to choose our candidate, the parties choose their candidate and only then we get to vote. See your Bernie experience above. The party chose Hillary, even though the people wanted Bernie.
When I voted for Trump in 2016 I voted for the biggest bull in the china shop the world has ever seen. Did we ever get that. He shattered the illusion of the two party system once and for all. Thanks to 2020 we now see how corrupt our elections are. How corrupt our media is. How corrupt our big businesses are. And how corrupt big tech is.
The curtain has been pulled back once and for all.
To save our country both Democrats and RINOs must be destroyed.
u/#Ridetofreedom
Haha, man I am exactly like you. I was so devastated when that Bitch cheated Bernie. I was more interested in the candidates than the political process, so the transition to Trump was easy for me.
Isn't it beautiful how a good solid redpill moment is like a domino effect? Afterwards, everything else you observe or remember starts to piece together until BOOM you are on the other side of the river wondering why your undies are soaking wet but your pants are dry...
I had a similar trajectory. I was a Bernie true believer, but in my defense he had some ok talking points on NAFTA and TPP. It turns out he was full of shit but I was with some buddies after watching them cheat Bernie in broad daylight and we said, "Maybe we should check Trump out. That seems to be where the real movement is happening."
I had a short stint working for an Establishment Dem campaign after all of that. I actually used the phrase "Social Justice" in my interview. I still cringe.
It took about a month or two for me to see just how nasty they were. How they talked about their voters. How brazen they were with lying about people. I watched them sling some shit at a former military person knowing damn well it was bullshit, demeaning his service. Basically calling him a coward. It was horrible.
I watched them tell pensioners that the fund was broke, expect to lose your benefits, and Obama said it wasn't politically expedient to push a bail out. Their entire attitude was "Well yeah, we are fucking you over, but what are you gonna do, vote for Trump?"
It turns out that is exactly what they did. Trumps pitch was, "What do you have to lose?"
Trump delivered on all the promises they kept making year after year with no intent of coming through. I don't regret my time in Bernie land because I got to see the country in a way most people don't campaigning across 10 states and most importantly, because even though she cheated we put a dent in the Side of Beef's momentum and I will never feel bad about that.
Happened to me aswell early on it seems to be common when people actually hear trump speak and not what the media says he said