They all seem to forget the “supposed” reason for vaccines. And they also have no context in which to judge whether the vaccine lessened the symptoms or not.
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Right. For the overwhelming majority of people, Covid runs between a cold-like illness to a bad flu, with total recovery. There’s no data to support their claim that the vaccine “helped”, and a growing pile of data that supports our assertions that it actually makes things worse.
And you can easily claim the same way that without vaccine it would have been milder